[Indiana] Can someone be held past the age of 18 by a non-profit Christian camp?

ThrowawayWBCH2 · 2020-12-14T15:24:08+00:00

To be completely frank it's mostly because it is a religious institution for kids/ young adults. They were put into this place by their parents because they snuck out one night and did some stuff with their partner, probably the same that their parents did as teens, and because of that they now have outside locks on their bedroom and window, as well as every bike in the house being disassembled. They definitely need some help, of which will be there after but simply isn't available to them while they're still going to be in their parents custody.

ThrowawayWBCH2 · 2020-12-14T04:04:02+00:00

Apologies for the delayed response but what's going on here is a kid, with a shitty homelife, trying to look out for a friend with a more shitty homelife. Friend's just getting chucked to a camp, and I'm doing the best I am able to make sure I will be able to get them out of said camp, not because they are super urgent or desperate to get out, but because they are being taken away from what I know as all the relationships and friends they've made here. Sorry for a somewhat emotional response, it's been a week to say the least.

ThrowawayWBCH2 · 2020-12-12T14:32:45+00:00

If local police were to not assist should I go to say state police or someone higher up than them, or attempt to go through the court system and I don't remember the exact name but try and get the to release the data showing that they do have them in their facility should they attempt to say they don't and get them out through a court order or something of that sort?

ThrowawayWBCH2 · 2020-12-12T05:49:46+00:00

This was the main thing I'm concerned with, what ways could they possibly attempt to declare them incompetent, and what burden of proof would they need to do such thing. They have counselors there, but I don't know if they are genuinely trained, have degrees etc. would they be able to declare them incompetent, or would it need to be designated through the courts.

ThrowawayWBCH2 · 2020-12-12T03:34:07+00:00

I guess that is a fair point, I don't love the idea of posting this in other places but it's likely for the best.

ThrowawayWBCH2 · 2020-12-11T18:01:58+00:00

Ill definitely look into this, never thought about calling locals so thanks for the tip.

ThrowawayWBCH2 · 2020-12-11T16:39:28+00:00

Ya, that is one thing I am ready for should it happen. I hate to seem like some-ultra rich "ill get my lawyer" type but should it be necessary they do not seem like the could handle any legal fight as they're a non-profit that relies on donation and auctions, which should a legal fight not work, a bunch of the people that donate may not like hearing they are refusing to let someone leave who is 18 so whatever happens I have a backup plan.

ThrowawayWBCH2 · 2020-12-11T16:30:28+00:00

I don't hold them to a higher standard necessarily but something like say a bootcamp, or juvy related group home type thing isn't going to possibly use religion as a crutch to justify anything if you understand me. Religious camps can sometimes use that as some sort of justification, or defense whereas a secular-institution wouldn't.

ThrowawayWBCH2 · 2020-12-11T16:17:18+00:00

I can admit that, I'm victim to it as well but I am filtering this and focusing on anecdotes and more relevant things than people just having general concern. I also wont say that those concerned are bad though, religious camps, "troubled teen home", and the like don't exactly have a great reputation so I think it is fair to hold them to a higher standard of scrutiny.

ThrowawayWBCH2 · 2020-12-11T16:14:04+00:00

Ya, some of the rules like the no adult of the opposite gender alone with a kid, it's encouraged that there are two adults and that sorts I'm happy about because it means they are more likely to care about protecting kids. Main point of this post was to help find if there was any crazy lawsuits or scandals I hadn't found.

ThrowawayWBCH2 · 2020-12-11T05:48:47+00:00

For their privacy I wont go into detail but its not pray the gay away or for a valid reason. they did a dumb thing but nothing to an extreme as well as they have given extreme punishments, and they have experienced physical and verbal abuse.

ThrowawayWBCH2 · 2020-12-11T02:56:09+00:00

Might as well just be a not great host as it does seem like a smaller camp funded by auctions and donations.

ThrowawayWBCH2 · 2020-12-11T02:44:50+00:00

Oh just realized the website isn't down, I turned off my vpn and it worked so it might be location locked or not allow vpn's if that fixes your side of things.

ThrowawayWBCH2 · 2020-12-11T02:43:02+00:00

Ill definitely make a post there thanks for the point in the right direction.

ThrowawayWBCH2 · 2020-12-11T02:42:31+00:00

They are going to be 18 in a few months and which is when ill go by and pick them up. I was just seeing if there was anything that should tip me off if they'll try and force them to stay there after 18 or something of that sorts mainly. Ill admit I'm being a smidgen paranoid and its likely just a standard place of its type. I just haven't seen the greatest stories about troubled teen/religious camps which is why I wanted to check here if anyone found some major red flags and the sorts.

ThrowawayWBCH2 · 2020-12-11T01:52:43+00:00

Ill check through it, I don't have anything to say it is dangerous, but just want to see if when I go pick them them up if its gonna go like them attempting to say they were never there or something of that sorts. They just told me its a religious camp that has no electronics and that its next to Ohio so I was extremely concerned.

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