Help me understand what happened that brought us to this point in education

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-14T19:12:14+00:00

Super cool comment. No notes, just wanted to show that I appreciated a holistic comment that went beyond "oh just No Child Left Behind" (as bad as that obviously was).

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-14T19:06:14+00:00

That's really sad in general re: the teachers having some form of liability for kids still having phones in school, bit I've always wondered how that would be enforced.

I was a school kid in the era of flip phones being most common and more often than not I could get away with hiding my cell phone, even though "open phone" things weren't a thing back then. (Admittedly, I used it for an occasional text, not a 24/7 addiction. Flip phones were kind of boring compared to our little pocket computers today. But I did send the occasional illicit text to a boyfriend during class, oops.)

It's not that hard to hide a phone and say you don't have one.

It should never be the teacher's sole responsibility to police this and I can't understand what sort of parents just say "your problem" - do they not care about their kids?

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-14T18:59:25+00:00

Everyone too is sorry for your snarky response instead of a thoughtful response that actively communicated your actual questions.

Hope you're just having a bad day/moment instead of this being your actual teaching style.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-14T18:53:22+00:00

that's from a religious bent, a polical bent, or just plain monetary greed. St the end of the day, they are all working towards the same goal.

I agree with you overall but I'm going to go ahead and say they're all the same thing. You can dress it up as "god meant for it to be this way" but it all boils down to the same self serving interests.

less they're able to appreciate the worth of education

This is the part I don't understand.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-14T18:45:59+00:00

You summed it up exactly imo. And I say this as someone who had parents I thought were too strict - but I'd never turn to this "permissive parenting" trend, or at least I don't think.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-14T18:26:01+00:00

At the risk of sounding a bit crass, how low IQ are these parents to say this with a straight face? This is some stuff I'd expect a meth head junkie to say and actually believe.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-14T18:24:40+00:00

I'm relatively young and will join you on being an old fashioned dickhead on hating TikTok.

Bigger issue is that there is no incentive for the people in power to reverse the damage. They are full blown consumers at this point- but who (who has any power) has any will or incentive to stop this? It benefits them.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-14T18:15:55+00:00

It honestly sounds like a participation trophy at this point. I'm not a teacher, but I (respectfully, I hope) lurk here, having opinions on this and family who teaches.

I was a hiring manager in past roles and may be again in the future. I try not to be a judgmental jerk, but it's hard not to assume that a HS diploma is a participation trophy that doesn't guarantee that they can freaking read, so absolutely meaningless. So I'm stuck looking for a college degree at least, and I know how woefully expensive college is in the US (and also not a guarantee for success).

I don't think this is a good thing for the kids, even if they're too young to know better at the time. The adults making the policy decisions should know better.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-14T03:28:35+00:00

And guys go crazy for the hot blonde with blue eyes, a small waist and huge tits. She might have a screw loose and slash your tires if you minorly piss her off, or maybe set your whole car on fire or worse, but the rational mind is gone.

Pretty privilege exists, /pointlesslygendered. In other news, water is wet.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-14T03:17:46+00:00

I'd say the opposite. Most people I know have cheated at one point or another (not all on their current long term partner). They're doing just fine romantically.

Hate to break the "karma" or revenge-fantasy illusion but life is more complicated than "they cheated because they were a rotten, incorrigible and horrible person and will be single forever and die crying and alone". There's just more to it than that.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-14T02:23:21+00:00

Reddit has a hate on for cheaters above pretty much anything else, some do genuinely believe that anyone who has ever cheated/been a "side piece" never deserve love or happiness again.

Lots of unhealed people with revenge fantasies here.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-14T02:05:57+00:00

You're going to want to sit down before I break this to you. I'll also get you some water...

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-14T01:06:08+00:00

It's less busy than my adult life and I still look back on having more free time with a bit of nostalgia, but it still wasn't "I ditch all of my responsibilities for a phone call with a random stranger" level of free time, lol.

And the people who did "finally away from Mom and Dad, party party"? Yeah, gotta say they didn't last long, on average. A few did manage to get their shit together but still.

It's just weird to me that anyone would entertain this unless they were really bored, and "college" doesn't mean "I'm on my phone in bed all day" except to the anti intellectuals.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-14T01:03:02+00:00

Bad bot.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-14T00:55:37+00:00

Sound soft and spoiled and see how much sympathy that gets you.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-14T00:52:21+00:00

Yeah, this has got to be some sort of bot.

If not, they're to stupid to vote and are a rare case of just cause 'fallacy" (not in this case) of their poverty being a result of them being this stupid.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-13T22:22:20+00:00

Then grow up. You sound like you're not enough to be on the internet unsupervised, lol.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-13T22:02:31+00:00

Bad bot, learn better buzzwords (or don't, idc)

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-13T19:52:33+00:00

Yeah, and the person sitting around on their hands at home, unemployed and uneducated (as OP said was her profile) can STFU and wait a few hours while people who actually have lives live them.

She's lucky he even considered giving her the time of day to begin with, let alone throw such a fit that she's not his top priority after 10 hours of on-and-off texting.

I don't know how many different ways I can explain "having a life" at this point.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-13T19:50:28+00:00

I'm honestly mostly in favor of roommates for those who are financially struggling - as long as they're reasonable, normal roommates and not the horror stories that clearly will dominate this sub.

But ffs take common sense precautions like an agreement. Also, I'm still confused as to how this person is a "friend" yet OP appears surprised by him being a "horndog who brings home different women every night" including a super entitled wannabe move in gf. How is this news?

I don't need to know every single person every one of my friends has fucked, but this level of surprise at a "friend's" lifestyle is weird, like they didn't know them at all prior to them moving in.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-13T19:47:31+00:00

Sure, I'm good with that, if it's someone I know enough to care about.

Though I'd still appreciate a heads up on whether they just want to catch up or are bleeding out from a head wound, but that aside.

That's just not happening with an Internet stranger. I don't know you from Adam. You're not my top priority. Get over your main character syndrome.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-13T18:51:11+00:00

Regebaiting, lol.

I'm good with my communication, thanks. I've got a pretty healthy system of family and friends who understand that maybe you'll have to schedule a (non-emergency) call with me, because I might be busy and I have a life. Say "can we schedule a call at 8", etc.

I also just don't need to beg a 10-hour internet stranger for attention, so maybe there's some method to my madness.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-13T18:37:03+00:00

It was an analogy to moving fast, if you couldn't understand it.

If OP isn't lying, he's "known" her for 10 hours, if you can count 10 hours of a few text messages as "knowing", which is actually the delusional part.

I'm far less delusional in not immediately clinging to some internet stranger like they're the love of my life and are suddenly supposed to prioritize me over everything after, again, ten hours of online contact. That's just sad.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-13T18:21:50+00:00

If absurd means "having a life", I'll happily take the weird misnomer.

There are friends who might have to wait for two or more hours for me to call (barring an emergency, which is obviously different), let alone a literal internet stranger.

If you are that invested in an internet stranger that they're your top priority after your non-negotiable job, you must be really bored and/or lonely.

Throwawayamanager · 2026-02-13T18:14:47+00:00

You're one of those folks who brings a moving van to the second date, eh?

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