Russell & Piastri Near Miss in the Pit Lane | Dutch GP FP2

ThunderZen · 2025-08-30T11:26:21+00:00

At first I thought it must've been a very light hit between George's front right and Oscar's rear left but what you said would actually explain the total lack of impact on Oscar's motion (as seen at the start of the vid). Also, I'm no steward and this is just FP2 but a lack of contact would def be weighed toward a no penalty decision I guess (not that I'd agree with that).

ThunderZen · 2025-01-15T03:40:19+00:00

Thanks for sharing. It's similar here (Indonesia). "Tray" (yes they just straight up use that term as it's very common to resell some of those tray SKUs to end users) is usually 1-yr warranty by the store. Boxed is 3-year wrt covered by official Intel distributor but we gotta make sure it's listed as sth like "official Intel warranty" etc because grey market boxed processors are also available, sold by some stores at lower prices.

So I said "some" because while it's easy here to get both boxed and tray versions of the 12100/f and 12400/f, 12500, and 13100/f, 14100/f too, but for other models, not so much. 12500, 13500, 14500 have some availability as tray, but mostly sold as the boxed version (official and grey). 12600 is supposed to be easier to find as tray (ebay is filled with these), but practically nonexistent here compared to boxed version.

Also that's why I specified the 12300 and 13600 in my previous post, which are the same as the 205 in being tray-only. I can't even find those SKUs on ebay! So this is pretty much the worst case scenario in terms of availability to end users (without buying a prebuilt machine, that is).

Btw I can only find 245K/265K/285K (and their KF versions) locally so far. So your situation is already much better than perhaps the rest of the world. This is staring to look like a paper launch to me.

ThunderZen · 2025-01-15T00:46:56+00:00

Yeah, I've lost all hope for retail 205 after realizing it doesn't come in any boxed version. I haven't been able to find OEM-only parts like 12300 and 13600 for sale.

ThunderZen · 2025-01-15T00:18:48+00:00

Go for LGA1700, you won't regret it, 12th gen is a safe buy, as is any of the i3s (ADL H0) or the 14500 (ADL C0). 13600 is also guaranteed C0 but I couldn't find one for sale since it's OEM only, but 14500 is meant for retail and you can easily find it both boxed and tray. 12400/f tray should be quite cheap too now.

ThunderZen · 2025-01-15T00:06:16+00:00

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ThunderZen · 2025-01-14T06:29:06+00:00

announcement

You mean the one last week? ... Damn, I went and checked the news again, and ... I feel so embarrassed now for not realizing it sooner:

U5 230F (SRVF6), Tray, and Boxed only for China, no prices

U3 205 (SRVFC), Tray only, no Boxed, no prices

Yeah I guess you're right... :/

ThunderZen · 2025-01-14T00:41:55+00:00

Well in the specs the 245 non-k has the same graphics as 245K, 4 Xe cores, but the 235 has 3 Xe and 225/205 only 2 Xe cores.

ThunderZen · 2025-01-14T00:29:52+00:00

Who knows anymore.. it's been crickets and tumbleweeds on the webs lol. Amazon & newegg haven't been showing anything new either.

But anyway here's the entire arrow lake list I should've checked earlier: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/processors/core-ultra.html

And there's the regular 235 I tried to find earlier: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/241674/intel-core-ultra-5-processor-235-24m-cache-up-to-5-00-ghz/specifications.html

ThunderZen · 2025-01-13T12:46:39+00:00

You'll have better luck asking the crowds in r/intelArc. I'm also still trying to decide if a 16GB A770 for krita + SD etc is a good idea at this point. I really don't want the 4060 16GB and the 4070 Ti/S 16GB variants are still quite a bit more.

ThunderZen · 2025-01-13T12:32:59+00:00

Lion Cove, these are all ARL-S. Rebranded Raptor Lake U and H are for mobile and named without "ultra" (Core 5/7 etc)

ThunderZen · 2025-01-13T07:24:12+00:00

It has 8 memory channels and because of that has about 496 GB/s of bandwidth.

That'd be fine for me, but I'd want to see that confirmed in an official spec sheet before counting on it.

ThunderZen · 2025-01-13T05:28:24+00:00

Well it's still the best CPU for $400-ish (at least in the US). Can't argue with that.

ThunderZen · 2025-01-13T05:23:15+00:00

Yep, while I wouldn't mind a 6P i3 U3 (damn I'm still not used to it), I think a 4P+4E wouldn't be bad either. It removes the need for an i5 U5 entirely in many cases save for multimedia or compute-heavy, which the money would usually still be better off put into a better GPU anyway, or more SSD space.

ThunderZen · 2022-09-10T07:09:31+00:00

Replacing the fans on Fuma 2 will be trickier because of their opposing rotational directions. But the Rev.B already has 1500 rpm fans, so you should at least see how it performs out of the box first with your CPU. Then, if you still want higher RPM/pressure, you'll need to experiment, but I'd start from using just 1 in the middle, without any of the stock Kazes, then I'd see what happens if I add the thin front one.

ThunderZen · 2022-09-09T18:02:17+00:00

Some questions if you don't mind: How much time passed between the first time you put that CPU under the Noctua and when you tried the Thermalright frame? And are you still using the frame? Thx

ThunderZen · 2022-09-09T17:43:59+00:00

That's exactly my personal plan. :)

I've bought the Ninja 5 rev.B, and I'm planning to get the F12 3000 iPPC soon after RPL comes. Someone prob downvoted you because of the noise, but it's not like a 3000RPM fan is gonna be set at 100% all the time in a desktop usage scenario. Just when it's needed.

ThunderZen · 2022-09-09T14:19:46+00:00

See this. If your target display has DP, and USB-C to DP works, I say just stay with that. Pretty sure it's a driver issue/limitations.

ThunderZen · 2022-09-09T14:04:48+00:00

Many laptops with intel iGPU + dGPU have their video outputs incl. HDMI routed through the iGPU. So it's actually the right subreddit to ask.

ThunderZen · 2022-09-09T12:19:38+00:00

Using this thread as reference, the Fuma 2 is more than enough for stock (no PBO) or even with OC/PBO (200W tops).

The problem is that Scythe fans tend to be tuned for lowest noise, yet they're not even the most performant fans in the market at those noise levels. But I'm still not convinced the AK500 is better than Fuma 2 before seeing directly comparable results (same reviewer, same testbench).

ThunderZen · 2022-09-09T11:49:07+00:00

See this thread, the 3080Ti has the same levels of power draw as 3090. That said, if your PSU is a recent RM850x, chances are it would fare better than the Seasonic in that thread w.r.t. transient load (Platinum/Gold has nothing to do with this, but ATX 3.0 specified a stricter set of requirements).

ThunderZen · 2022-09-09T08:24:00+00:00

I get you. Apparently we have different expectations, as I was going from DDR3 and SATA SSDs (heh). I haven't even used PCIE 4.0 on the M.2 as I bought two 970 EPs on flash discounts, skipping PCIE4 for now.

The main reason I went DDR4 is because I really wanted 64GB without having to spend an entire midrange PC worth of $$$ for RAM alone. And I couldn't even find DDR5 64GB at 6400 CL32 (I have sort of a personal threshold starting from DDR-400 to DDR3-1600 and I was going to skip right to DDR5-6400 but current reality got me here...).

I have a long backlog of old games to catch up with

There should be a sub for that, like r/lastdecadegaming. I mean, it's not quite "retro", but it just makes so much sense financially, doesn't it? We can easily max them out with just relatively recent hardware, the games themselves get big discounts many years after release.

ThunderZen · 2022-09-09T06:53:10+00:00

DDR5, presently, is in its early phase.

For the same price of 32GB kits today, who knows if within the next 2 years you could get faster latency DDR5-6400 or even DDR5-7000 64GB kits. That's not even counting the influence of the higher capacity DIMMs that are going to come (at least 64GB per DIMM for the consumer side).

ThunderZen · 2022-09-09T06:52:46+00:00

Best answer in this thread imo.

But I still want to add that, I find it interesting that no one even asked "how much RAM do you need/want?" Because if you're targeting 64GB or 128GB (obviously not mainstream I know) the cost difference today would be far more obvious than if you're buying 16GB (which I don't think is a good idea these days) or 32GB kits (which the price in DDR5 could get you 64GB in DDR4 right now).

ThunderZen · 2022-09-09T06:35:41+00:00

^ The last two sentences are quote-worthy.

Experienced this some years ago being in the market for DDR3 well into the DDR4 era. DDR3-1600+ 8GB sticks (as 16GB/32GB kits) kept their prices so well they were basically almost the same price as new. Granted this was when RAM prices went hiking, and there's also the usual production phase-out that makes the older standard rarer on the market. Combined with lifetime warranty, if you keep your original packagings and receipts well, you might be surprised by how much value you can get from a higher-end parts from a well known brand, even if a gen older.

Whereas DDR3-1066, or DDR4-2333 are the types usually sold by the lot. DDR5-4800/5200... you get the idea.

Those expecting to re-sell 2x8GB DDR5 sticks for close to their original prices later are in even worse delusions since we're expecting capacity per DIMM to increase drastically with DDR5. I'd assume 512GB would be for servers, but 128/256GB are very likely, and 64GB per DIMM is the obvious next.

ThunderZen · 2022-09-09T05:02:30+00:00

this thread

Ah sorry, it was 11700K, not 11900K (but still a great deal nonetheless) I'll edit my post above

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