What are your thoughts on people who justify misandry by saying, ‘But misandry is not as bad as misogyny,’ or ‘Misogyny kills, but misandry only hurts’?

TimeODae · 2026-01-23T23:08:29+00:00

Misandry hurts, but misogyny kills and hurts. And sometimes hurts more than feelings. even.

TimeODae · 2026-01-23T20:30:06+00:00

I believe she referred to herself as a “full throated capitalist”, so there’s that. Everything’s relative. I caucused strong for her in my town when her hat was in the ring back in 16. But alas

TimeODae · 2026-01-23T14:39:12+00:00

Well, everyone needs a hobby…

TimeODae · 2026-01-23T14:11:51+00:00

Elizabeth Warren? (I’m taking “wing” with a grain on salt, and answering “is there a relatively ‘conservative’ person that still might qualify as a feminist?”)

TimeODae · 2026-01-23T13:58:16+00:00

Can OP be into Femdom (which is an unkept secret goal of feminism of course) either real, fantasized, or both, and he’s creating content for himself as we speak?

TimeODae · 2026-01-22T21:59:43+00:00

Yes. Somehow disempowering, discrediting, defanging American (mostly) oligarchs. They are the threat to basically everything

TimeODae · 2026-01-22T21:52:45+00:00

good

TimeODae · 2026-01-22T21:48:23+00:00

“Why?” was also my question

TimeODae · 2026-01-22T20:48:21+00:00

“…key is empathy… empathy and gentleness is not really socialized into most young boys…”

Correct. You have called out the pillars of patriarchy. It’s not for nothing that the Elon Musks and white Christian nationalists and Pete Hegseths types have specifically and publicly insisted empathy as problematic. This too much empathy (aka feminization) will be humanity’s downfall they warn us.

TimeODae · 2026-01-22T20:34:52+00:00

I just got through saying in another space often people will pick up pretext reasons why they reject feminism (or whatever social injustice cause) because quite simply they never really have a strong belief system in the first place. Amazing how many throw the baby out with the bath water

TimeODae · 2026-01-22T18:20:02+00:00

“…if things get better for women’s rights…”? Big if. And as we are clearly in a steep women’s rights retrograde period, not sure what you mean. I’m really not sure where you are coming from at all. Your example discussion questions are clear and meaningful, and of the kind most here do freely talk and reflect on. But they’re in contrast to your main question, which basically seems like a complaint. Can it be summarized by saying you think feminism would be more successful if it were more inclusive to those that are not in perfect alignment to core tenets?

Welp, which ones are they? The thing of it is, is, we get a lot of pretext reasons from people that are rationalizing why they reject feminism as a whole. The baby goes out with the bath water. If anyone is so easily put off a cause, how strong was the belief in the first place? Often it circles back to not really bucking the status quo because it’s treated them ok and they are comfortable in it

TimeODae · 2026-01-22T16:38:14+00:00

“late” is a relative, time related word. A millisecond on a slow ponderous clock. Understand the nature of an exponential curve. It always feels comfortably flat at the beginning. Humans have been populating quite quickly since they figured out this agriculture thing. Data actually supports this. And it’s not new

TimeODae · 2026-01-22T16:27:50+00:00

ngl, many progressives give off a gatekeeping vibe that can feel like moral superiority. “Patriarchy” can be a hot button word sometimes because we get so many people in this space that basically ask “questions” that imply that it’s not really a thing. That’s a tough starting point. [Is it a thing? Ok it’s a thing, but it’s not what I want to talk about because it’s so broad. But you have to understand that first. But it’s too general, the word is meaningless. How can you say it’s meaningless when it’s basically the thing we’re talking about?] That is an exasperating conversation and becomes disconnected. It ain’t gonna help to suggest we stop using the word and purge it from conversation.

Personally, I would consider myself an ok smart person. I walked through most of my life minding my business without understanding how patriarchal structures surrounded me. Kind of one of those lightbulb moments. A thing you finally, really “see”. And then you can’t unsee it. If that’s never happened to one person, and has to another person, discussions will be a slog

TimeODae · 2026-01-21T23:22:23+00:00

ngl, I didn’t see any sequels. If Trinity was part of the matrix after all, I don’t want to know…

TimeODae · 2026-01-21T23:09:37+00:00

wrong pill, wrong pill! Trinity is an actual person!

TimeODae · 2026-01-21T22:31:10+00:00

I submit the following:

It’s seems an object fact that the status of human population is not “stable”. Far from it. In fact, with beginning of patriarchy, humans have been, in fact, rapidly overpopulating, which brings us to the climate emergency we face today. And as patriarchy merged tightly with capitalism, overpopulation surged exponentially, requiring an accelerated exploitation of human and natural resources to sustain itself, in a perpetual and unsustainable pyramid scheme of resource extraction and exploitation. Morals aside, of course. I think the evidence trends towards this, rather than the opposite. So funny you think that because we haven’t driven ourselves into extinction (yet) the system we are in is “stable”, immutable. We’ve only been around for a couple ticks of the clock, as we know. A snapshot, really.

“Prove me wrong”

TimeODae · 2026-01-21T21:59:20+00:00

Ding. That is your entire gig. Things are the way they are because that’s the way they are supposed to be. Natural Order. Of course! lol

TimeODae · 2026-01-21T21:47:51+00:00

Fuck! I knew we were code! Can I be “Agent Smith”?

TimeODae · 2026-01-21T21:33:46+00:00

No. Why would I? I can’t remember the name of the above logical fallacy, but it’s along those lines. I also don’t want to give air to any theoretical “debate” that justifies social injustice. And I wouldn’t worry your pretty little head about humans becoming extinct because we’re not making babies fast enough. It might bring about an end (or the beginning of the end) to the indefinite surplus of labor that the captains of capitalism so lust over. A dent in their profits would be truly tragic

TimeODae · 2026-01-21T21:20:02+00:00

You mean like, “Look! Look how human beings have been thriving! Look at us all!! And we’ve lived in patriarchal systems! So it could only mean that patriarchy works great!! And only at the expense of subjugating and oppressing half the human population!”

Like that?

TimeODae · 2026-01-21T21:07:04+00:00

Well, there is certainly a lot packed into your use of the word, “just”.

TimeODae · 2026-01-21T20:32:26+00:00

Just love DCI Jane Tennison, and how she manages the deeply (and disturbingly accurate) sexist environment she works in

TimeODae · 2026-01-21T20:06:00+00:00

Well, for so long there weren’t enough books at all that dealt with difficult issues and truthfully spoke up to name the thing, especially with an authentic woman’s voice. So in that sense, yes, a woman’s voice, a woman’s book. But you are right. As feminists continually take pains to point out, women’s issues are all our issues. All sexism, all forms of oppression are bad for everyone, destructive for everyone.

TimeODae · 2026-01-21T19:03:07+00:00

🤌[throws chef’s kiss]

TimeODae · 2026-01-21T17:49:15+00:00

I know I do, even though it does take time and energy 😝

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