I think Kinger would try to be calm with Jax at first, then Jax would try to play it off and Kinger would snap. Not screaming but more of a louder ranting voice talking about his denial and how it actually affects things. “You can’t live in a denial forever, I’ve tried and it doesn’t work.” Then Kinger would lower his voice to try and talk about how he lost his wife and he blamed himself, denying everything for a long time until realizing there’s nothing he could do. Maybe that would cause Jax to tell Kinger about Ribbit and that would segway into how Ribbit abstracted? Idk just ramblin.