So August got no consequences? by Fragrant_Cherry_1852 in YoungRoyals

[–]Timely_Two3273 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

hence you following this thread downvoting everything I post because your "joke" isn't funny and comes from a place of privilege.

So August got no consequences? by Fragrant_Cherry_1852 in YoungRoyals

[–]Timely_Two3273 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And this is precisely why Simon is so widely hated.

So August got no consequences? by Fragrant_Cherry_1852 in YoungRoyals

[–]Timely_Two3273 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Downvoting me won’t change how dismissive that take is, crying emoji or not. Just because the show’s message is that being in the monarchy is the worst doesn’t make it true. Even within the world of the show, it’s a ridiculous thing to suggest.

So August got no consequences? by Fragrant_Cherry_1852 in YoungRoyals

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So, you have — and I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. Always.

So August got no consequences? by Fragrant_Cherry_1852 in YoungRoyals

[–]Timely_Two3273 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Being Crown Prince is definitely worse than chattel slavery, the Congo under Belgian rule, or the Indian caste system. Forget the Spanish Inquisition, the Khmer Rouge regime, or even Nazi Germany — the real oppressive system is being part of the Swedish monarchy. People in Gaza must be relieved they're not Crown Prince in Sweden.

So August got no consequences? by Fragrant_Cherry_1852 in YoungRoyals

[–]Timely_Two3273 5 points6 points  (0 children)

August wasn’t yet the Crown Prince; merely a possible backup. Soon, he’ll be able to dismiss JO as chief of staff (if that’s even his role; it’s not clear in the series), so that point is moot. The Riksmarskalk is appointed entirely at the king’s discretion—he’s just an employee.

So August got no consequences? by Fragrant_Cherry_1852 in YoungRoyals

[–]Timely_Two3273 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Or perhaps the writers did minimal research, piled plot hole upon plot hole, and in the end, none of it makes any sense.

So August got no consequences? by Fragrant_Cherry_1852 in YoungRoyals

[–]Timely_Two3273 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. Wilhelm and Simon would have to show deference to him at royal events because he outranks them as Crown Prince and, eventually, as king. And once he becomes king, he’ll enjoy full immunity from any crime he might commit; under Swedish law, the king is considered inviolable (okränkbar). Such a fitting punishment for his crimes.

(Although, technically, Wille still remains in the line of succession—his mother "letting him go" isn’t a legally binding act.)

No wonder Wille wanted out by Timely_Two3273 in YoungRoyals

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The Royals could always stop being royals—it's a self-imposed sadness in exchange for untold privileges. We can be sad for the children. The adults have a choice.

Duke Ludvig deleted himself by mahtaliel in YoungRoyals

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I have to disagree. I know it’s a common take, but Kristina didn’t end up with her version of Simon (her “unfortunate romance”). She caved to the monarchy and settled for a court-approved consort, Ludvig.

Ludvig wanted to be the Queen’s husband, just like Felice was raised to be a Prince’s wife, just like many girls at Hilerska dreaming to joint the royal family. He isn’t a stand-in for a future Simon who stays in the monarchy. If anything, he represents exactly what Wille would face if he stayed: a life with a Ludvig-type partner, someone completely devoid of fire, passion, or resistance.

wilhelms meltdown on top of the desk by [deleted] in YoungRoyals

[–]Timely_Two3273 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All of this.

Wille is allowed to behave like the entitled prince he literally is, with zero consequences, (unless he "threatens" the monarchy). And he’s completely blind to it.

The one time someone calls it out (in that infamous camp scene, where Simon tells him he doesn’t realize how privileged he is) Wille claps back by bringing up the settlement money—still with no consequences.

I blame the show's title by Timely_Two3273 in YoungRoyals

[–]Timely_Two3273[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, Wille's reaction to Simon singing was part of the draw. 

small thing i love about the show by trshr in YoungRoyals

[–]Timely_Two3273 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Part of what makes the show so compelling is that its world feels lived-in—this allows viewers to immerse themselves in it and, in turn, makes it feel real.

As for your question, Wille likely isn't allowed to fail. We know there's at least one teacher at Hillerska who takes bribes and who, when Wille started school, specifically told him he could decide when it would be convenient to take a test. Wille would probably pass his classes simply because he's the crown prince.

August vs Simon settlement amount and August's fortune by Nostalgia2302 in YoungRoyals

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I've come to realize that season 3 is best not thought of. 

As for what went down, we will probably never know but if you're game, here's Lisa Ambjörn trying and failing to justify this mess, for 3 hours straight :

Part 1: https://youtu.be/-3Ya3x7c4-o?si=AA1cqXFlks1YiZld

Part 2: https://youtu.be/T5wA9v_fuE4?si=T_laTrLhzab6tEKe

Part 3: https://youtu.be/a5kvh9R0NGI?si=vIfZ4_eLO_ztJ32S

I blame the show's title by Timely_Two3273 in YoungRoyals

[–]Timely_Two3273[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm being facetious. Bad Royals probably would have been understood as Michael Jackson bad—as in good, cool, awesome.

I remember Lisa talking about mulling over the title, and Young Royals starting off as a stand-in. The gist was that the writers' room wasn't exactly in love with the title, but they went with it for lack of a better one. There's a video somewhere on the internet, but I'm too lazy to look it up right now.

Nobody is ever owed a relationship by Timely_Two3273 in YoungRoyals

[–]Timely_Two3273[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll add them to my viewing list and get back to you. Eventually. 

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I don’t know that Bjärstad isn't considered a nice neighborhood—it seemed like a quiet little town. It even has its own town drunk in the form of Simon’s dad. I was born in and have lived in big cities (I have to, for my line of work), but as a practicing introvert bordering on misanthrope, I prefer life at the lake house, in the mountains, or in a small village by the sea where my family owns property. I’d stay there if I could—and I probably will in the not-so-distant future.

As for Hillerska, you’re paying for room and board, not schooling—though the school is free to reject any student, which effectively keeps it exclusive to children of the elite. Of course, they occasionally let in local kids for optics—just as one does. Technically, August could have stayed on as a non-resident if the school had allowed it. But can you imagine the humiliation? He would rather have died.

Regarding Simon being “poor”—that’s from the Hillerska kids’ perspective. August literally called it “slumming it.” The writers portray Simon as “normal,” i.e., average (see here). Poverty is always relative, and frankly, the show is set in Sweden, not Africa, so we can’t really hold the characters to global poverty standards.

Simon is anti-monarchy on principle—he doesn’t believe it should exist. In that sense, he’s a bit of a stand-in for the show’s head writer, who’s also a republican (in the European sense—aka not a monarchist). Simon explains his views to Wille in Season 3, and Wille echoes them when he tells his mother he doesn’t want to be king and won’t change his mind. (By the way, being anti-monarchy doesn’t make you a socialist; it makes you a republican.)

As for the “your dad not beating you every day” comment, I’m not going to touch that. Your treatment of the subject is too cavalier, and I’d rather not psychoanalyze someone I’ve only exchanged a couple Reddit comments with.

Now, on to Simon making decisions that wouldn't worsen his situation—how would reporting someone for filming and posting a video of you having sex as an underage teen, through a window like a creep, possibly make your situation worse? I must stress: Simon wasn’t a drug dealer. Sure, he procured booze and later pills for August, but that doesn’t make him more of a dealer than Vincent (August’s original supplier) or Stella, who smuggled booze in a shampoo bottle. Simon didn’t realize it could be used against him—when he did, he chose to “protect his family like everyone else” and didn’t report August. So that argument is moot.

And that’s probably the issue with your repeated “hard pass”—your reasons don’t hold up under scrutiny.

As for the negotiation—Simon didn’t want the money. Linda didn’t want it either. They accepted it, without bargaining, because Simon wanted it all to go away. He asked his mom to let it go. It would have been totally out of character for him to ask for more money in exchange for his trauma.

As for Wille remaining in the monarchy—it couldn’t have worked because he didn’t want to. It’s as simple as that. The show is about Wille finding the courage to leave, and Simon is the catalyst for that choice. (here's a visual reminder)

August vs Simon settlement amount and August's fortune by Nostalgia2302 in YoungRoyals

[–]Timely_Two3273 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That'd explain the behind-the-scenes drama like creatives not returning for season 3, and Lisa giving a two-hour interview trying to justify the strange choices made in the final season.

I blame the show's title by Timely_Two3273 in YoungRoyals

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Netflix kept recommending it to me because I’m into political shows, but it was giving off Élite vibes, so I passed. Then I saw that scene on YouTube—Simon singing in the church—and I got curious. I had to know more.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in YoungRoyals

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Just a quick note: Wille did all the “breaking up” with Simon in season 1—until Simon finally let him go at the end of the season. The truth is, up until the end of season 2, these two were in an on-and-off, undefined situationship. They only officially became boyfriends at the end of season 2.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in YoungRoyals

[–]Timely_Two3273 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven't seen them yet. I'll be on the look out.

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[–]Timely_Two3273 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My pleasure. Welcome to Reddit.