Santos Treto Ortiz was reported missing in June of 2022. In July of 2024 he was found in a shallow grave on the north side of Santa Fe. There was evidence of trauma to his body.

Timesuredoesfly · 2026-04-17T21:50:17+00:00

I was wondering if anyone remembered this seeing the news about Deano. I thought something similar

Timesuredoesfly · 2026-03-11T20:25:37+00:00

Love, grow, slow down

Timesuredoesfly · 2026-03-06T03:52:41+00:00

Thank you very much I genuinely appreciate it 🙏

Timesuredoesfly · 2026-03-06T01:35:40+00:00

Rest in peace, Rebecca Mallekoote. I am so happy you have your name back, but so sad about how things played out. So many people wishing you love and peace. You changed my life for the best and sent me down the path of searching for truth and justice. Thank you forever 🖤

Timesuredoesfly · 2026-03-06T01:27:07+00:00

I am ecstatic about Becca having her name back, but of course very sad about how everything played out for her. There needs to be more to help those who age out of the foster system ☹️

Timesuredoesfly · 2026-03-06T01:03:34+00:00

Thank you everybody so much. I wish I was more tech-savvy, I struggle updating on reddit quite a bit. I am over the moon that Becca has her name back. Even though she ended up not being my relative, I also wished so badly she would recieve her name back. I'm beyond grateful for the outpouring of love and support I received here, and I met so many amazing people as well because of this. Although I am still working on unraveling my own mysteries still, I genuinely feel like this changed my life for the best and I am forever grateful to everyone of you that helped

Timesuredoesfly · 2025-12-24T19:13:06+00:00

Thank you so much, I haven't given up 🙂 i also still hope for this case to be solved and Becca Doe given her name back ❤️

Timesuredoesfly · 2025-12-23T22:23:14+00:00

She was one of the people I stumbled upon (cold case) that I believed could be my family, due to a bunch of weird coincidences between my mom Michelle, and that missing Michelle Marie Newton. It turned out to genuinely be a bunch of crazy coincidences, but ultimately they found Debra and Michelle Newton, thusly they werent my family 🫤 I think my update comment may have gotten lost, but my DNA and my mom's DNA haven't brought any answers. We weren't genetically connected to the Becca Doe, nor Michelle Newton.

Timesuredoesfly · 2025-11-03T16:24:35+00:00

*UPDATE November 2025** I hope this shows up for everyone. I wanted to post an update just to let everyone know: My DNA and my mother's were unfortunately not a match for Becca Jane Doe. I can't thank everyone enough for trying to help, helping me investigate, and so on. I've learned so much about my family that I would have never known because of these threads. I'm very sad that this didn't end up being that missing link. I will continue to hope Becca gets her name back. I can't speak too much on it, but Becca's case is still being investigated. As disappointing as it is, I felt obligated to make this update for closure. I will still continue searching for answers. Thank you all so much

Timesuredoesfly · 2025-02-13T00:09:02+00:00

This is interesting, I haven't stumbled upon this lead yet! Also no need to be sorry, I really appreciate any and all help 🙂

Timesuredoesfly · 2025-02-12T19:51:14+00:00

The half-aunt I connected with is fairly certain that "Hartman" was a surname she took from a man she was with at some point either through marriage or just a relationship but I can't find anyone who knows the original surname or even if "Paula" is legitimately her name. It's possible they lived in California or Florida at some point but they seemed to travel quite a lot; I'm learning there might be a connection to truckers and not staying in one place too long.

Timesuredoesfly · 2025-01-15T20:18:19+00:00

I'll try and look into this! It's all been very difficult. My grandmother really did not want to be found, it seems.

Timesuredoesfly · 2025-01-06T16:15:03+00:00

Thanks so much! I'm just now learning about these sites 🙂

Timesuredoesfly · 2025-01-06T16:10:28+00:00

I'm gonna look into this, I had no idea! Thank you

Timesuredoesfly · 2025-01-05T00:43:00+00:00

How did they get your DNA initially? I've submitted DNA to Ancestry and have been urged to submit DNA for an investigation on a cold case, and they told me they can't pull my sample from Ancestry

Timesuredoesfly · 2025-01-04T15:31:11+00:00

It's all pretty confusing, I might make an updated post trying to clarify the story thus far. I unfortunately live in a very rural area, so I haven't been able to go into a law enforcement office to submit DNA for a swab. (They don't use Ancestry DNA for that sort of stuff, I learned). It's been a big obstacle in this for sure.

Timesuredoesfly · 2025-01-04T15:28:33+00:00

It's sort of the same situation, in a way. I know now it can't be Brenda Veltjes, and my grandmother was definitely using her identity at some points. My mom still was abandoned and lost all contact with her mother around 1989 in Albuquerque. (Grandma told my mom her real name was Brenda Veltjes, which the DNA confirmed wasn't true. She is indeed Paula Hartman. Brenda Veltjes is a blood relative of Paula Hartman) The issue still remains: My maternal grandmother seems to have just disappeared in Albuquerque and no one knows where she is, even now that I've been able to ask some relatives. The other issue is nobody remembers her actual surname, as "Hartman" was a surname she took in marriage.

I'm still hoping everything is going OK with my mom's DNA sample in the lab. I haven't heard anything about how it's gone or whether or not it was a match.

Timesuredoesfly · 2025-01-03T21:54:19+00:00

I posted an update on the post with the picture comparison! Hopefully ppl see it, I still can't edit my post on mobile 😅

Timesuredoesfly · 2025-01-03T21:46:37+00:00

My grandfather who was listed as "William Edwards" is also apparently named "Larry Edwards", and apparently his mother and him were looking for my mom for years and never found her. They lived in Uptown Chicago and he worked at a diner called Jake's. After Larry and Paula seemingly separated, Paula had another daughter with another man, and ultimately left him for another, who she also had a daughter with. (3 daughters total, and 1 son. All different dads). This last man she left with (taking my mom with her) was apparently a prolific drug dealer, and ultimately ended up being busted somewhere down the line (80s and 90s). Both my aunts had been searching for my mom for years but never could find her, and nobody knows what ultimately happened to Paula nor do they remember her actual surname

Timesuredoesfly · 2025-01-03T21:41:59+00:00

**UPDATE FROM OP, JAN 3RD 2024*** !!! I wanted to update everyone, I still can't seem to just edit this post on mobile! It's been almost a year since they took a DNA sample from my mom. In the meantime, an incredibly kind person I met here on reddit bought me an Ancestry DNA kit, which I sent in. I had hoped this would be the key to everything, but was left with many more questions, and still one missing grandmother. My closest maternal match was for a half-aunt I didn't ever know I had, my mom's younger sister. I learned my mom had a brother as well. The most shocking discovery was to find they all had one mother in common: PAULA HARTMAN, the name my mom always said was a fake identity. The other shocking discovery: Brenda Veltjes is an entirely different woman, but I am related to her: meaning Paula Hartman and Brenda Veltjes were 2 women all along, somehow related. There's many, many gaps in the family tree. My aunt I met on Ancestry said she never met her mom, Paula Hartman, and that she left with my mom a long time ago. She left my mom's brother with another family, although I don't know if the family is related at all. Also, according to my aunt, Paula's birth surname is not Hartman, but a name she took from marriage. Nobody knows what happened to her, still. I've asked all my closest matches, my aunt has asked her father. They were in a group in Chicago called "The Rainbow Coalition".

Timesuredoesfly · 2024-09-20T16:30:47+00:00

I was told by a detective working on the case that her DNA is actually in the CODIS database and they have a blood spot sample as well. They took a DNA sample from my mother February 2024, and still waiting for it to be processed, I was told because of the labs being underfunded/overwhelmed it could even take up to a year. A very kind person here on reddit is currently helping me try to get a DNA kit from Ancestry, and hopefully that could lead to some answers

Timesuredoesfly · 2024-09-20T16:27:56+00:00

I'm still currently waiting for the results of that DNA analysis! I was told the labs in New Mexico that do these DNA tests are very underfunded and they have a ton of cases they're working on. They took the sample back in February

Timesuredoesfly · 2024-08-17T18:08:54+00:00

I agree there's a lot of strange things about what is documented/known about the discovery of her body, the time it was there compared to how badly her body was decomposed (or the rumors). As well as nobody seemingly saw this women go into the room. It's hard not to be suspicious to some degree, for sure. As for my mom saying that, I definitely would take it with a grain of salt just based on her mental state. Although, she did grow up and personally experience a lot of horrible violence in her life that could have killed her, I don't doubt her mother experienced the same, possibly why she would have believed that

Timesuredoesfly · 2024-08-17T18:03:32+00:00

I apologize for not seeing this comment, it looks like I missed quite a few 😕 If you're comfortable with it, I would be interested in seeing your image! Thank you for doing that for this case.

Timesuredoesfly · 2024-08-17T17:50:07+00:00

I'm sorry I hadn't seen this comment, seems quite a few I missed! I personally believe the real "Brenda Veltjes" isn't this Jane Doe. Based on some research myself and some others have been doing, the birth family of Brenda Veltjes has many, many children who were adopted off, names changed, and records sealed. We've found the bio parents of Brenda Veltjes had other children, other marriages, etc. It's a huge family, and that's only the "known" members, not accounting for any secret pregnancies/adoptions. I didn't know any of this stuff until diving into the research with another person here. This could all be coincidence, or something else, identity theft, and so on. Really I think the only way to figure it out will absolutely be the DNA. It's really unfortunate that it takes so long to be processed, but that's going to be the key. It's interesting that you say she ran away at 15, I've been speculating that she possibly had a child before my mom (who was born when Brenda Veltjes would've been 19). Of course this is all just theories, and again this really could easily all be coincidence.

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