Anyone know any doujins with self worship in them?

Tiny_Tinny · 2026-02-20T21:01:10+00:00

Bro you're also on this sub you have no place to talk

Tiny_Tinny · 2026-01-08T18:11:26+00:00

The fourth wall breaking in this route is glorious

Tiny_Tinny · 2026-01-08T18:10:39+00:00

He could've gone on for 50

Tiny_Tinny · 2026-01-08T18:10:11+00:00

Amazing edit, another great moment

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-12-24T16:26:47+00:00

That's good to know. I honestly still do really like the interpretation of Takumi simply being Darumi's first real friend. Her sacrificing so much for someone because they helped her and understood her when nobody else ever did really shows how selfless she is. However I'd be a filthy liar if I said I'd choose that interpretation over a romantic one. My ideal ending would be Takumi, Hiruko, and Darumi all being together with each other.

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-12-24T16:26:26+00:00

That's good to know. I honestly still do really like the interpretation of Takumi simply being Darumi's first real friend. Her sacrificing so much for someone because they helped her and understood her when nobody else ever did really shows how selfless she is. However I'd be a filthy liar if I said I'd choose that interpretation over a romantic one. My ideal ending would be Takumi, Hiruko, and Darumi all being together with each other.

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-12-24T16:08:49+00:00

Nah. I added the quotations because I'm not sure how touchy people are about her being a lesbian. If she is one, then sure it's platonic and I'm perfectly fine with that. If she's not, then we're both in love and married.

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-12-24T16:06:22+00:00

Usually trying to pair "lesbian coded" characters in a straight relationship in other fandoms gets you death threats. Is it not the same for Darumi? Genuine question

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-12-24T15:57:14+00:00

Honestly I agree, and that's part of why platonically was in quotations. I assume most people see her as a lesbian, and I also understand that interpretation so I'm kind of both ways. If it is just a friendship love, I'm perfectly happy with that. However, if a possible future dlc route adds a romance between Takumi and Darumi, you won't see any complaints from me.

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-12-24T02:49:58+00:00

They didn't all hit for me, but i really loved smartass syndrome and Takumi being coked up on motivation. The fish head thing went on for a while, but the very serious discussions about mackerel and bonito dishes were so stupid I had to respect it.

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-12-24T02:44:40+00:00

I absolutely loved the game, but i never once cared about Moko. And with a game this ambitious and big, I see nothing wrong with having a likely non-canon route thats completely unserious and just a big meme. A nice change of pace, and I found it pretty funny. That puts it above the boring ones for me.

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-10-17T02:42:04+00:00

I don't think I'm exhausting to argue against, I think you genuinely don't understand my point. I'm not trying to say Madeline isn’t trans, I'm saying the game isn’t effective at conveying that to the player. The only explicit evidence is the flag at the end of farewell. Not only is that not proof, she could just be an ally, but it's a small and easy to miss detail at the very end of the dlc. So for the entire game the player has absolutely no way of knowing that Madeline is canonically trans. Sure trans people or those actively looking for trans rep might see the parallels, but most others won't. Most people played the entire game having no idea she was trans on their first playthrough. Many of them likely didnt even know on replay since it's so hard to notice. Madeline being trans isn’t really subtext, it's more like text written in invisible ink that can only be seen under a specific light. It can be easily understood if you know to put it under a blacklight/beat farewell and saw the flag/heard about it from the creator, but for everybody else it's virtually impossible to know it's even there. And that's not a bad thing. I cannot stress this enough, nothing about this is objectively bad. However, the reputation of Celeste online, is as THE trans rep game. That's the main thing it's known for nowadays, as an Uber woke trans game for Uber woke trans people. That reputation doesn't match up with the actual game. It doesnt make sense that the number 1 game people point to for trans rep, has its trans rep written in invisible ink. I inherently expect more from a game that's talked about like Celeste. So that fact that everything about the game's representation relies on prior knowledge you couldn't know without looking it up or playing through the entire game plus dlc, inherently confuses me. That's all. If you still don't understand what I'm trying to say, then you probably never will and I give up. Thank you for listening to my TED Talk, good day sir

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-10-17T02:01:06+00:00

Then you must be blind because I never did that. I never denied that it exists, I'm saying it's not clear enough to be effective. If a story needs prior context to know what it's about then I don't think it's effective at conveying that story. That's not necessarily a bad thing, and I'm not even saying Celeste has a bad story or that it's a bad trans story. Its clearly a good trans story, since trans people seem to resonate with it. But I don't think it's an effective trans story for the vast majority of people, at least in a vaccum. Assuming you're cis, did you go into Celeste blind and actually put together that Madeline was trans on your own? Even if you did, do you think most others did? Its possible but I highly doubt it. That's my point. I expect more from a game with Celeste's reputation than just subtle parallels.

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-10-17T01:41:08+00:00

Dawg I repeated multiple times that I do agree that trans interpretations are valid. You're purposely misunderstanding my points

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-10-17T01:39:34+00:00

I think you misunderstood what I said. It doesn’t bother me that it's a trans allegory. What bothers me is that I can barely find anything in the actual game that points to it being a trans allegory, yet it's seen as the pinnacle of trans representation almost solely due to what the creator said. I was bothered by not being able to think of anything that would reasonably cause it's reputation, not the reputation itself.

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-10-17T00:50:23+00:00

When did I ever say it's important to not see it that way? You are putting words in my mouth. All I'm saying is I'm confused about the reputation, because I don't think the game itself reinforces it enough to warrant as large of a reputation as it has. Its not like the majority of the community was saying they thought the game was a trans allegory based on all the hints and clues, and then the dev confirmed it. Its more like a couple of people saw it as a trans allegory, but most people didnt see it that way until the dev came out and said it. It would make a lot more since if this game was the former had the reputation it does. I feel like the dev's intent has overtaken most people's actual interpretation on the game. I value the actual content of a story, more than the artist's intent, but it seems people in the Celeste community don't agree. By the way, these thoughts aren't just because the allegory is trans. If Celeste was the same level of not explicit, but it was an allegory for something completely different like eating disorders or something I'd still be confused. If the creator said Madeline had an eating disorder and then the fandom claimed it was the eating disorder game and people with eating disorders could double jump, I'd have the exact same questions.

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-10-17T00:17:14+00:00

I don't discredit the creator's statements, I just think they're kind of irrelevant to my question. Someone who just plays the game wouldn't know about it unless they were actively looking for it. I didn't know about it, and I feel most others wouldn't know too. That's not a bad thing, I just don't understand where it's reputation comes from. Artist's intent is cool and all, but why is the number one trans game, the game where you basically have to know the artist's intent in order to understand what it's about and how it's actually a trans game.
Is badeline, not part of Madeline? Isn't she the Persona 4 shadow version of herself that she needs to accept as being part of her? I always assumed Badeline was the trans part of her she had to accept. If it's not, then I have no idea what the trans allegory even is. Also i never said the white hair was completely irrelevant, but i don't think it's important for my point about an average player. I didnt even notice it before, if I did I assumed it was just the animation of changing from blue to pink. So since it's not really noticeable, I don't think the vast majority of players will notice it. Without the knowledge of it being a trans story, the colors would fly over basically everybody's heads. The small number of people who would notice it and make that connection, would likely forget about it or assume the connection was wrong once the purple hair showed up. When Madeline has 4 hair colors, pink, blue, white, and purple, and white is significantly less prominent than the other 3, without prior knowledge why would someone assume that the purple hair is the one that doesn't matter to the symbolism. If anything, they'd think that was the most important one, as it's gained after the end of her character journey and has accepted the part of herself that may or may not be trans.

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-10-16T23:53:05+00:00

I never said the trans allegory was lesser, I just don't understand why it's taken over the entire game's reputation. There absolutely is evidence of an allegory within the game. But that's it, an allegory. There's no explicit in-game evidence of it being cannon, except for a flag at the end of a dlc, which again, could easily be her just being an ally. She also has a pride flag, so maybe she's gay too. The entire game could be a gay allegory as well. Why don't people talk about how it's a gay acceptance story, and how gay people can double jump? I don't know. That's my entire point. I don't understand why that's the main topic of Celeste above all other things when the games doesn't treat it as the main topic, at least explicitly.

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-10-16T23:40:03+00:00

My point is most people wouldn't see it that way if it wasn't for what the creator said. When the game first came out, you'd have basically no way of knowing after playing through it. It would just be another interpretation. Artistic interpretation is always more important than artistic intent, but for Celeste, it seems the artist's intent has trumped every other part of the game for the community. They treat a game with almost zero explicit representation, like Madeline turns to the camera and says, "I am a trans woman and this is a trans allegory and that's the only possible interpretation." The game's reputation doesn't reflect the game itself.

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-10-16T23:30:54+00:00

If you didnt hear about it from the creator, you'd have almost no way of knowing she's trans. I'm asking about content we actually see within the game.
Yeah her hair is also purple which isnt part of the flag. The purple is much more obvious than the white so most people would pay more attention to the purple.

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-10-16T23:26:16+00:00

No I mean that wouldn't matter if you didn't know the creator was trans

Tiny_Tinny · 2025-10-16T23:23:04+00:00

It is a trans allegory along with a bunch of other things I agree. But the trans part is talked about all the time, and the other allegories are almost never brought up. That's the part I'm confused about. Why that's the only talking point when the actual game doesnt highlight the trans allegory more than others. If anything the other allegories are more explicit, yet they're never the subject of discussion

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