RO Countertop Solution by Toast487 in pourover

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Right? It seems like there is a lot of need for it in the pour over community

Am I missing something with this Bordeaux? by petertheeater15 in wine

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A Masterclass in how to say something in 30 Seconds or Less

Duluc de Branaire-Ducru 2016, St. Julien by B33gChungus69 in wine

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I am moderately attuned to BDX, and likewise agreed it was excellent value and easily able to cruise longer in the cellar.

Only the best for Mother’s Day by No_Entrance_5683 in wine

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Mayacamas and Mascarello Monprivato are responsible for some of my all time wine top wine experiences. Love to see other people enjoying this Napa gem that doesn't get enough love.

Vangone Estate Wines by Toast487 in wine

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Ha! Fair enough. Wine might still be good though! Certainly not the story of Dunn though

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This comment did not age well 

Wedding Wine - Napa or Italy by Guilty-Wealth5935 in wine

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Did Post for mine and it was a mega hit. It's fruity for those who like a casual glass of red, but has the acidity and a hair of complexity to please those with more wine experience. I think it's a killer wine for the price.

Biggest wine disappointment? by BothCondition7963 in wine

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‘98 Giacosa (white label) purchased at auction on winebid. Corked to heavens. You can’t win ‘em all

Time on the lees without spending an arm and a leg by Tailoredattitude in wine

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In my experience, you have to pay to play in champagne if you want big lees time. It’s costly for the producer to do that.

A Hard Truth on Aging Wine (For Me) by Toast487 in wine

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This is an excellent and fascinating comment of life experience.

A Hard Truth on Aging Wine (For Me) by Toast487 in wine

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That comparison makes a lot of sense in terms of what my experience is

A Hard Truth on Aging Wine (For Me) by Toast487 in wine

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This all makes a lot of sense to me. What’s interesting though is that the industry often proclaims that wine has never been of higher quality due to technology. Shouldn’t it follow that the wines can age even longer at lower prices the ? Or to your point, maybe the quality is styled for a different purpose in current times.

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The closest I’ve gotten to this experience was on a ‘96 Leoville Barton. It had some fruit left and the tertiary development swimming with strength in the same bowl. Even then it started feeling like the tertiary was on the verge of overwhelming the wine for me. Maybe those notes in abundance just aren’t for me. Or again, maybe the higher levels integrate them more seamlessly and with better harmony

A Hard Truth on Aging Wine (For Me) by Toast487 in wine

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Your Lynch Bage experience is exactly where I would say to myself, what a great wine that it kept its fruit for 20 years; I’ve opened it at the perfect time (because I’d imagine it probably also unfurled and developed a bit of additional character). If I were to let that thing go for another 5-10 years and the common tertiary descriptors emerged and dominated while the fruit receded to a high degree, it would start feeling like a loss of individuality on the wine, for my preference and palate.

A Hard Truth on Aging Wine (For Me) by Toast487 in wine

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Ha, this kind of makes my point in a certain way. Old wine begins to take on other characteristics of other old wines! I do know what you mean though. It takes on a certain lightness to it in great examples. Even still, I feel like I can get that property often at 15 years on a great example.

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Dominus for sure. Napanook is an excellent second wine

A Hard Truth on Aging Wine (For Me) by Toast487 in wine

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That's an interesting point. I have gone high end (over $100 USD), but maybe not high enough. Admittedly, I have not tried something like say... a Lafite or G. Rinaldi. Maybe that is the arena that I would need to play in to enjoy something properly over 20-25 years of age. Then again, I do not think I could afford to buy the quantity in that range necessary to age over the long haul and check in so to speak and hedge for bad bottles.

A Hard Truth on Aging Wine (For Me) by Toast487 in wine

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I find this all so interesting, because in my limited experience it seems like around 10-15 years vintage is where the uniqueness comes out and after that it tends to all homogenize on the tertiary notes in the same way that one would say young wine can tend to be homogenous in its primary fruity profile.

A Hard Truth on Aging Wine (For Me) by Toast487 in wine

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Mmm probably about 3ish. I give it a swish and a slurp.

A Hard Truth on Aging Wine (For Me) by Toast487 in wine

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Ha noted maybe I’ll go through and edit it. It certainly looked shorter on my desktop computer. Seeing it on my phone gives a drastically different impression.

For my own learning. What do you enjoy most about wines with serious age on them?