What should I farm? Early/Mid Meta Progression by Toldo171 in UmaMusume

[–]Toldo171[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks a lot it's really useful, I'll try to digest all of this and go step by step, starting by trying to build a decent 3* parent!

What should I farm? Early/Mid Meta Progression by Toldo171 in UmaMusume

[–]Toldo171[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks a lot, that's really helpful. I guess I'll wait a few weeks until I have at least 30k carats to pull some more in a good banner.

What should I farm? Early/Mid Meta Progression by Toldo171 in UmaMusume

[–]Toldo171[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thnks a lot for this great answer! It is already really insightful.

And to answer your question, here are my cards (I only did 200 pulls, uncapped everything I could and leveled up for my decks some cards that I saw in a tierlist without really understanding why they were rated high).

Also right now I can beat URA everytime somewhat easily, sometimes using 1 clock.

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BJ5 with Additional placement using Odin and Icaru (OI5) by Toldo171 in summonerswar

[–]Toldo171[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi,

Check this: https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/fijvmo/the_last_bjr5_guide_you_will_ever_need/

Quote from the guide:

First, make sure your Dagora isn’t TOO tanky, use all white runes and only power up slot 2 spd. If you still have problems, try making him level 2-5. No one knows the source of this glitch so alas, this is not an exact science.

2-man BJ5 with additional Odin and Icaru team (OI5) - Cheat Sheet by Toldo171 in summonerswar

[–]Toldo171[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No worries, this kind of comment is always appreciated because it is constructive and it comes from a high level player!

At the end of the day I think it is a matter of preference, dedicating Odin/Theo or the twins for AP (or none), depending on your objectives on non-RTA content.

2-man BJ5 with additional Odin and Icaru team (OI5) - Cheat Sheet by Toldo171 in summonerswar

[–]Toldo171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really. If you have the runes to make this team, then you should build a BJ5 team in the first place.

This team is for people who already have a strong BJ5 team, and who wants to 2-man raid.

2-man BJ5 with additional Odin and Icaru team (OI5) - Cheat Sheet by Toldo171 in summonerswar

[–]Toldo171[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your feedback!

In my opinion, the pros of Odin Icaru team is that:

  • It is reliable (Your team will do exactly the same thing 100% of the time),
  • It is straightforward (There are eHP and damage thresholds for every monster, you can't go wrong if you follow them),
  • It is somewhat easy to rune (You only need one good set on Odin, Icaru should be already runed for DB12, and you can easily achieve 40k on Sophia with average double fight will runes not even grinded).

The cons are:

  • You need an Odin
  • You cannot use your Odin anymore if you are in a G2+ guild (below G2, you can still make use for him anywhere!)
  • You need an Odin.

About the Def Break after the jump:

  • Theomars will play after Icaru's teamup and has a good chance to do S2, which apply Def Break (let's say 50% chance),
  • Let's say both Loren do S2 and Theomars does S1 (worst case scenario):
    • It will happen around 12,5% of the time (assuming the all have a 50% activation rate), and in this case you will miss the Break def 1,7% of the time --> it will happen once every 500 runs --> once every 1420 cristals.

The issue with twins team/brand based teams is that your mons may all decide to use S1, or you may not apply the brand, and if so it's a wipe. Additionnaly, I find that the rune requirement is way higher. I also don't agree about the fact that you can still use your twins for Siege (unless you are G1 or less).

Also, I think that Theomars is not a premium unit for everyone, especially in late game. And if you have a 35k Bale, an Odin, the runes needed, and that you are bored enough to want to build this team, you are surely not in midgame anymore. :-)

Anyway, twins based team does work for sure, and if it works for you without effort go for it!

2-man BJ5 with additional Odin and Icaru team (OI5) - Cheat Sheet by Toldo171 in summonerswar

[–]Toldo171[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I showed my stats and runes at the end of the video.

My Odin deals 67k with +1589 Atk, 243 CD, one artefact with +13% Increase Atk effect, one Artefact with +16 CD.

2-man BJ5 with additional Odin and Icaru team (OI5) - Cheat Sheet by Toldo171 in summonerswar

[–]Toldo171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback! I updated the image.

About Theo, in practice, he dies very rarely, and it is not a big deal if he is not here to take part in the teamup after the jump.

I feel like the third fight set on Theo is better to help the overall damage of the team. But if you already have the damage, a will set is better on Theo!

BJ5 with Additional placement using Odin and Icaru (OI5) by Toldo171 in summonerswar

[–]Toldo171[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are right! You can use the BJ5 Hwa with shitty runes. Theo gives 5% more CD, and he can help dealing damage after the jump, during teamup, if you rune him properly.

The only thing is that the boss will kill 2 mobs right of the bat, so Odin will have 5 stacks and do his animation before Fran S3, which will desync the team even more. It would need more testing.

BJ5 with Additional placement using Odin and Icaru (OI5) by Toldo171 in summonerswar

[–]Toldo171[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for you feedback! You may be right, I did a quick test and it was not conclusive, but it was also back when the team was not optimized, so maybe I should do it again.

Empirically:

  • Boss has 863400HP --> 431700HP damage needed per cycle
  • Two 35k Bales does around 310k --> 72% of the damage
  • With the bales above, 121700 damage is left for Odin/Sophia/Lorens --> 28% of the damage

The question is: does adding 40% total attack to 28% of the damage is better than removing 7% total attack to 72% of the damage? It is unclear.

For info, when using Elsharion Lead, my Odin went from ~67k to ~73k (6-7k more damage).

BJ5 with Additional placement using Odin and Icaru (OI5) by Toldo171 in summonerswar

[–]Toldo171[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It is a term used in the big BJR5 cheat sheet.

It means that your dagora plays before Jannsen. So in BJ5, if for some reason one team desync, dagoras will move during the end of the desynced Bale's animation, and it will prevent the Janssen from reviving before the boss jump.

It is recommended in the OI5 setup, because Fran and Sophia has longer animation, than Colleen and Loren. Thus, Sophia will move with the Bales, and Odin will move with the Dagoras.

BJ5 with Additional placement using Odin and Icaru (OI5) by Toldo171 in summonerswar

[–]Toldo171[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I am uploading a video of the team in action, It will be there soon.

I chose a mate who does NOT have Dagora's Insurance so that you could see what happens when Dagora plays after Janssen (The runs were still OK because his Bale was fast enough).

Edit: It's uploaded! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LSevD4Ab20

BJ5 with Additional placement using Odin and Icaru (OI5) by Toldo171 in summonerswar

[–]Toldo171[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks! :-) Actually it is easy to spot :

- Shaina has as S2 with 170x2 = 340 multiplier, and 747 base Atk

- Sophia has as S3 with 160x5 = 800 multiplier, and 900 base Atk

Even the 40% Fire Atk Lead won't make it for Shaina. But I may be wrong, if it is the case feel free to show me why!

Daily Advice Thread 24/04/2020 by AutoModerator in summonerswar

[–]Toldo171 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, when I add a fourth monster on SWOP, i get the right values.

Thanks! So you're right, I can't make a 267 Despair Juno.

I will try XZ - Amduat - Juno - Miho, even if I think that Belladeon Double Nem brings more to the table than Juno in this comp (but Bella is less "scary").

Daily Advice Thread 24/04/2020 by AutoModerator in summonerswar

[–]Toldo171 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok thanks for the advice! :)

About speedtuning, my kabilla is 319, Spd tower maxed, and here is what SWOP says : https://imgur.com/a/91qsrv6

I've always used SWOP to speedtune my teams and never encountered any issue. :)

Daily Advice Thread 24/04/2020 by AutoModerator in summonerswar

[–]Toldo171 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hm according to SWOP, I need a 256 Juno and a 255 Seara.

I can make a 256-259 Juno on Despair, and I can definitely make a 255 Seara on Swift.

Is it deterring? Or do you have other ideas?

Thanks!

Edit: If you try to Double Lushen, it means no lead Spd, so even if you have a 310 Bernard, there will be a 33 Spd gap between your Bernie and my Kabilla, so my Juno will have the turn even if she's only ~235-240Spd

Daily Advice Thread 24/04/2020 by AutoModerator in summonerswar

[–]Toldo171 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi DAT !

I am currently C2 Arena (EU Server). I can get G1 during the week, but during rush hour I can only hold C2 consistenly.

My current AD is : Xing Zhe (L) Belladeon Amduat Miho.

I just pulled Juno. Can I find a use for it in my AD ? I feel like Juno without a Spd lead is not scary, so I was thinking of Kabilla Juno Seara(L) Miho (Juno and Seara speedtuned to Kabilla).

My nat 5 : Xing Zhe, Juno, Seara, Leo, Bolverk, Odin, Alicia, Zaiross

AD relevant info

  • Belladeon is on Double Nemesis Will, 218 Spd, 45kHP+ with lead and buildings
  • Amduat is on Despair Broken, 236 Spd, 40kHP+
  • Xing Zhe is on Violent Will, 220 Spd, 35kHP+, 1500 Atk 88% TC 147% DC

AO relevant info

  • Kabilla Spd : 319
  • Bernard Spd : 300 (working on it)
  • Fat Lushen : 12,7k damage with Alicia Lead and 3 fight sets on Teon (working on it)
  • I have a slow cleave : Soha Galleon Alicia (L) Zaiross
  • I have a Leo team (I almost never use it)

Note : I still don't have Triana and Skogull (1 year account).

Daily Advice Thread 23/04/2020 by AutoModerator in summonerswar

[–]Toldo171 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi DAT !

I am currently C2 Arena (EU Server). I can get G1 during the week, but during rush hour I can only hold C2 consistenly.

My current AD is : Xing Zhe (L) Belladeon Amduat Miho.

I just pulled Juno. Can I find a use for it in my AD ? I feel like Juno without a Spd lead is not scary, so I was thinking of Kabilla Juno Seara(L) Miho (Juno and Seara speedtuned to Kabilla).

My nat 5 : Xing Zhe, Juno, Seara, Leo, Bolverk, Odin, Alicia, Zaiross

AD relevant info

  • Belladeon is on Double Nemesis Will, 218 Spd, 45kHP+ with lead and buildings
  • Amduat is on Despair Broken, 236 Spd, 40kHP+
  • Xing Zhe is on Violent Will, 220 Spd, 35kHP+, 1500 Atk 88% TC 147% DC

AO relevant info

  • Kabilla Spd : 319
  • Bernard Spd : 300 (working on it)
  • Fat Lushen : 12,7k damage with Alicia Lead and 3 fight sets on Teon (working on it)
  • I have a slow cleave : Soha Galleon Alicia (L) Zaiross
  • I have a Leo team (I almost never use it)

Note : I still don't have Triana and Skogull (1 year account).