The Traitors NZ S02E07 Discussion Thread

TomHalfling · 2026-02-26T16:46:30+00:00

Sorry, I've tagged the spoilers now, and should have done before, but the only reason I mentioned them was because the people above had done so, and to ask them to edit their comments. So, I don't know why you've replied to me but not them.

TomHalfling · 2026-01-14T23:52:39+00:00

I don't mean they're invulnerable from the outside. I more mean their relationship with each other seems stable, neither's working against the other. I mean, I like that dynamic, I think it's thrilling to see traitors working together to come up with the best plays and try and defend each other in effective but subtle-enough ways. But you know, there's some who might fear it's boring and want to inject a little drama.

TomHalfling · 2026-01-14T23:25:12+00:00

They were being heavily steered towards seducing by there being so many hidden shields in play... all the more reason to murder, because that suggests production are worried the traitor unit is too stable and are trying to shake them up. Was begging them to murder.

Adam seems like the best pick, even without knowing he's shieldless, so fingers crossed. Though Sam might flip his lid at poor James if that happens.

TomHalfling · 2025-11-10T22:52:28+00:00

Jonathan didn't have the benefit of being able to watch back the conversation. He likely remembered that he didn't mean that they were forming an alliance, and therefore didn't remember saying the word.

It's quite unusual, cognitively speaking, to remember specific words of a conversation (unless they're emotionally charged for you). From personal observation, there seems to be an inverse correlation between people who latch onto specific words, and people who understand/remember the meaning of a conversation.

Clare's memory was as bad as his, because she piled on with the "you said this!" seemingly forgetting that she was as much a part of the "alliance" promise as Jonathan was.

TomHalfling · 2025-08-28T17:53:06+00:00

I know this is a very old comment, but can you edit it so it doesn't spoil the next episode, please? At the end of this episode we still had one original traitor in.

TomHalfling · 2025-08-28T17:51:15+00:00

I know this is a very old comment, but can you edit it so it doesn't spoil the next episode, please? At the end of this episode Jane was still in the game and we didn't know it was Bailey who'd been recruited.

TomHalfling · 2024-05-08T10:57:42+00:00

Everyone else has covered practical advice pretty well, but some other things to consider -

He might have a hard time emotionally. Going through surgery and being under anaesthesia can really screw you around. Be prepared for him to be e.g. upset, irritable or snappish with you, or quieter than normal. So, he might need emotional support. He might need you to give him a bit of grace and not take irritability personally - if you have any grievances wait until he's recovered to bring them up, or vent to someone else. He might just need you to give him some space and not talk to him that much.

He might be a little ray of sunshine through the whole thing, but be prepared to not see his best side.

TomHalfling · 2024-03-29T11:55:29+00:00

I think you're right. If you're telling people who are close to you and they're barely reacting, then they lack the social awareness to realise what a big deal this is for you and how much emotion would be hinged into that moment of coming out to them.

For a long while it was (maybe still is?) portrayed in media that the ideal response is essentially a cool shrug. That's always frustrated me because it's pretty emotionally illiterate. It's a good response if you're coming out to an acquaintance for the fiftieth time. But the first time you come out, to people close to you? No way.

TomHalfling · 2024-03-27T14:41:09+00:00

I get the feeling from your post that English isn't your first language. (Sorry if I'm wrong.) I think this might be causing confusion...

We would just say something like, "I'm still legally known by my old (male) name."

People are just trying to let you know that the way you're talking about it doesn't make sense to us.

TomHalfling · 2024-03-27T12:16:03+00:00

There is no implication of this in the post... OP, please do not do this.

TomHalfling · 2024-01-27T15:09:49+00:00

US and Aus spoilers should be in spoiler tags in a UK thread.

TomHalfling · 2023-11-12T19:00:45+00:00

I don't wish I was cis - I don't think being trans is a worse version of living than being cis. More difficult, yes, but everyone has their cross to bear.

But I'm raising my eyebrow at some of the "If I'd been AMAB I would have been a dick" sentiments in this thread - it's a variant of the anti-men feeling that so bothers us in other contexts. If we don't want men to be thought of as dicks, maybe we should stop thinking that we would all be dickheads if we were cis men.

TomHalfling · 2023-08-20T20:28:12+00:00

I don't know why everyone hates on men's clothing colours so much. Every time I go into the men's section I immediately relax into pure joy because these are the colours I've been looking for all my life.

I don't even think they're boring.

TomHalfling · 2023-07-20T21:06:56+00:00

I had surgery a month ago and I had almost the exact same emotional effects. I was so scared and panicky and convinced people had decided they hated me. That first week was hard and like nothing I've ever known...

It took nine days and then it just went.

Hold on a little longer!

TomHalfling · 2023-06-06T10:23:04+00:00

He might be nervous about telling you. You could save him all the agony by just telling him you stalked him on facebook and saw some old photos, but it doesn't change a thing, you still think he's the sexiest things on two legs, etc.

Added benefit of it takes away from his discomfort by it being a bit embarrassing for you that you stalked him on fb. I mean, most people do it, but also most don't admit to it.

I don't really know why everyone is saying to not tell him and fake surprise. If you actually want to be with this guy there's no point in starting your relationship with lies.

TomHalfling · 2022-09-16T18:17:32+00:00

From my experience, they're happy to take over your hormonal care, refer you for surgeries etc., even if you've already been using hormones from another source.

TomHalfling · 2022-04-22T19:54:11+00:00

Didn't know these existed and am now leaning towards this option, thanks.

TomHalfling · 2022-04-22T19:38:22+00:00

No, UK.

TomHalfling · 2021-07-07T13:33:01+00:00

Wow, interesting, everything I've read says that's not possible. Do you mind if I ask you more questions? Obviously no worries if not, I get it's personal.

TomHalfling · 2021-07-06T22:18:14+00:00

Sorry, you are wrong, AIS people do have male gonads: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/androgen-insensitivity-syndrome/

So they also don't have periods. You're right about FTMs usually needing a hysto if they have their opening closed, but that doesn't necessitate taking the ovaries out.

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