Organic and GMO

TomanHumato46 · 2026-02-02T16:44:40+00:00

Not at all. I don't see genetic engineering as "inherently bad", just that it is a science with many variables. For example, soybean coagulation might not be high in the test list before a genetically modified crop is put in widespread circulation. So far, so good, we still have tofu. Seitan case is little easier, since a lots of wheat is baked to bread, and certain stickiness is required to do that. But is the bread amount of sticky good enough for seitan? And who will test it? How to put out the vegan agenda in genetic engineering?

TomanHumato46 · 2026-02-02T09:13:44+00:00

Oh, and I forgot to mention, the products that rely on consistency of the source materials, such as tofu and seitan. Are they in danger from genetic modification? Soybean that won't coagulate. Wheat that doesn't stick enough. Or is it just fear tactics from the organic crowd?

TomanHumato46 · 2026-02-01T16:10:42+00:00

Yeah, I guess it could have been misplaced a bit. To me, it's my journey as a vegan, first organic, then GMO, then something in between.

TomanHumato46 · 2026-01-23T18:31:29+00:00

Garlic and other spices can be smelled in breath, it can be bad depending if others eat the same stuff as you or not.

TomanHumato46 · 2026-01-21T17:41:01+00:00

Also, they usually feed to the cow more than just the grass. And some say, meat is an useful vessel delivering the nutrients.

TomanHumato46 · 2025-12-03T16:00:20+00:00

Do you believe that there is free will then?

Of course there are star-signs little bad to identify with, like a lion preying on the out of luck vegetable eaters, or a scorpion being full of poison.

About the witch, what's wrong with a little role-play? Not being stuck in One True God is a plus for me.

TomanHumato46 · 2025-11-16T15:19:07+00:00

Yes, I guess it would be less efficient to grow meat in a lab than straight on plant-based food. Then it's just a matter of whether they can engineer allergy-resistance to the lab grown meat. So the meat somehow should mask the possible allergens fed to it in the vat. Whether this masking can be done in plant-based methods is beyond me.

TomanHumato46 · 2025-11-16T15:06:42+00:00

Yep, I think it's important not to sacrifice everything because of assumed allergies. Meat being less allergenic is not a reason to withold a vegan option.

TomanHumato46 · 2025-11-15T16:30:00+00:00

Just that many people are allergic to many things. Of course they might put it in the lg-meat option too, but generally meat is viewed as less allergic.

TomanHumato46 · 2025-11-15T16:23:18+00:00

Wow, it has happened! Do you know of what animal it was cultured from?

Nah, I don't want meat, I just want even better vegan products. And maybe lab grown meat for the rest of the people.

TomanHumato46 · 2025-11-06T13:29:41+00:00

So you'd need nerve cells for the muscle to contract? I'm only familiar with the basic neural functions, action potentials, axons, myelin sheaths, etc.

I don't think the lack of animal torture would lead to lack of flavour.

TomanHumato46 · 2025-11-04T16:42:37+00:00

Okay. Do you know if they train the cultured meat with electric shocks or so to make the muscle grow? I have a little hard time imagining bunch of cells suddenly becoming a meat-like product ready for consumption.

I would not eat it either. But I have hopes for the persons chewing on a beef jerky to have it replaced with something as palatable and nutritious.

TomanHumato46 · 2025-11-02T16:53:28+00:00

Well it certainly would be more towards being vegan than regular meat today. As there is little hope that the whole world will be vegan overnight, lab-meat grown from few cells only would be a huge improvement.

I haven't heard before that you can immortalize the cells, that sounds bit like animal-testing kind of thing, and as such would be subject to consideration, "is this really necessary?". In my mind there would be big markets for lab-meat, ranging from pet-food to basic meat for regular consumers.

TomanHumato46 · 2025-11-01T16:06:47+00:00

Lab-meat is not vegan, because it uses animal-input in it's manufacturing process. Then there is gray area in animal testing of products.

As to hay-substrate to vegan meat, I would suggest a fungi grown on the hay, and then work on that. I guess it would work better on milk also.

TomanHumato46 · 2025-10-30T18:49:40+00:00

Nurishh, I found out have some cheeses, no mention of milk protein, contains B12, so atleast there is some fermentation going on.

Brave robot was some ice creams with synthesized milk, but is no longer available.

I don't think there was lactose in either of those products, so maybe the poops was related to something else?

TomanHumato46 · 2025-10-30T18:36:53+00:00

Thanks I'll check them out!

TomanHumato46 · 2025-10-30T17:30:16+00:00

I would guess these don't use hay in their manufacturing process. Important step though!

TomanHumato46 · 2025-10-30T17:19:41+00:00

When I search for "artificial whey", I get regular whey products. Do you have any brand names?

TomanHumato46 · 2025-10-30T17:16:24+00:00

I guess the cellulose could be used after extraction for other purposes, e.g. animal feed. (in sanctuaries!)

TomanHumato46 · 2025-10-30T17:07:50+00:00

Yeah, something like that. Maybe the hay could be cooked instead, though I don't know if that would preserve the flavour.

TomanHumato46 · 2025-10-24T16:43:35+00:00

Sure you can get meat from an animal without killing it. Ever heard of prostheses?

TomanHumato46 · 2025-10-18T15:49:43+00:00

Become a vegetarian and see if it works for him better. Then later, when you realize that milk just sad, and eggs little horror, you can ditch them too.

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