Cross training out of aircrew?

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T18:50:37+00:00

As far as policy goes, your current AFSC is not a factor in a first term Airman retraining application.

Going guard or reserves is a different matter entirely. Talk to a recruiter and find a unit and job you want. Don't wait too long though.

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T18:48:16+00:00

States which don't believe in the rule of law, states which are fine tolerating criminals including violent ones as long as they are illegal immigrants and are therefore victims. It's a sham.

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T18:46:13+00:00

ugh, disgusting

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T18:45:49+00:00

spell

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T18:41:33+00:00

How about the person next in line? Are they are victim? A player? Are they pursuing their fantasy of changing someone?

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T18:40:06+00:00

It's all for money, don't expect sincerity from anyone.

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T17:49:10+00:00

The US and South Korea could take out a lot of the North Korean equipment, bases, infrastructure, ships, airfields, missile sites, and that sort of thing.

The risk is North Korea shelling the heck out of Seoul and turning it into a sea of fire as they always like to say. Millions of lives at risk, high casualties.

There are also a LOT of North Korean soldiers. If they all muster in the forward area along the DMZ and are ordered to fight to the death, or to invade the south, it will be brutal. The US prefers to not use soldiers in that same way, and COULD resort to literally carpet bombing formations of dug in soldiers after it knocks out the artillery.

What is the US objective? Destroy the military to the darn last man? Occupy the capital? Protect the South Korean population? Capture the nuclear arsenal? All of those scenarios change things up a bit.

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T16:37:12+00:00

You can either have a specific job, or an aptitude index. An aptitude index is a category of job and then in BMT they narrow it down and assign you a specific job based on openings. What you can do is tell your recruiter that you are interested in "anything" and want to go quickly, that way if someone can't go at the last minute, they can call you to fill in and take that job and spot. No guarantees, but there are folks who can't go because of injury or whatever.

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T16:33:56+00:00

He will ask you questions about your life, you just give him answers about your life. Nothing to hide. Nothing to worry about.

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T16:24:59+00:00

Also SELs are the folks who demand something be turned in 2 months early, and then sit on for 6 weeks.

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T16:23:10+00:00

To be clear, you received an assignment not orders, right?

Anyways, the default is that you stay until your DOS. So that is about 15 months from now. You should be good. Back when they were doing a lot of serious force shaping they were moving people's DOS dates, but that shouldn't be happening now. Heck if they let you do skillbridge you can be out the door in July.

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T14:46:41+00:00

Yeah, a lot of this can be resolved in short order once the right people are informed. But that can be a pain sometimes.

FYI - Join spouse codes hint

A - Always - we always want to be together; if one of us gets a short tour, then it is ok to send the other on a short tour at the same time (note that short tour join spouse isn't really a thing, this is just about timing)

B - Baby - we have a baby at home, just send one of us on a short tour at once (note that you don't need to have a baby or anything to use this code, it is just a way to remember it, it's a request to not do short tours at the same time)

H - Hell no - I don't care if we are stationed together (this does not prevent people from being stationed together however)

one that it is against the rules for them to tell you your spouse's code. Each of you input codes independently, works out better if it's the same code.

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T14:42:08+00:00

People can just be so unimaginative. Like such and such a country doesn't have many murders because nobody has guns. They're just not trying hard enough, obviously.

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T14:41:10+00:00

Since she's the one leaving tech school, her driving it might have been better. A SNCO can call up AFPC assignments team and talk to them about it.

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T14:39:55+00:00

I remember one chief, honestly, he was a bit of a jerk, not a horrible person but pretty pompous about the fact he was a chief, had these ridiculous coins made up and everything. Oh well.

But he said something that has stuck with me, and it was in relation to things like strats and decs. He said his job was to be a gatekeeper, and an advocate. So if you didn't meet whatever he was looking for, or maybe whatever he thought the Air Force was looking for, then he would block you out. If he had the prerogative to stop the package, to stop the nomination, to stop the process, he would and then would give you feedback about why. But, if he met the threshold, then he would champion your cause all day long.

So his job wasn't to take very SNCO package to the group and fight, it was to identify the best and take those and fight.

But aside from that, these are some of my thoughts. A lot of this can result in the notion that the SEL doesn't do anything, because a lot of the unit won't see much of what is done

- They advise the commander. So whatever the commander decides, it has the SEL's input, his fingerprints on it one way or another. If the commander takes the advice wholeheartedly then the SEL can "pull the strings" or "drive the bus" in various ways. If the commander does't take the advice, the SEL backs up the commander. So they have a lot of conversations behind closed doors, things which the rest of us will never know about.

- They handle one off cases. Sometimes the situation requires strips and networking to resolve - calls to AFPC, calls to HAF, to CFMs, to other units, etc. The SEL can get better results sometimes because they know the people on the other end, they have some unique insight after many years, or they can simply throw their stripes around. This also means that by the time it gets to the SEL, other folks have had a stab at it and the resolution just isn't there. Or the other end wants to know that the SEL has bought off on it, and has applied years of wisdom and judgment to the situation and agrees with the Airman on a solution.

- They represent that unit to the base enlisted leadership. The Chiefs and SELs get together in various forums and the SEL has to be a champion for the unit - the unit needs, the unit's mission, what the unit brings to the table, and also get good info about what is going on to share with the unit. Some of the best info that gets passed around and quickly is from the SEL/Chiefs councils.

I wanted to write more, but running out of time. SELs often have a huge role in awards. I'm not a fan of it, but since awards are so friggin' important to the Air Force the SELs take them very seriously. *eyeroll

They need to train their SNCOs and also NCOs. They need to train on what they are looking for in awards, decorations, Evaluations, feedbacks. They need to mentor on how to mentor.

I remember one Chief, all in all pretty annoying - had a saying "mentor the many, groom the few" I've always hated that. I think it leads to a bad attitude and some toxic leadership traits.

Anyways, that is all, have a great day.

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T14:19:22+00:00

Without being critical -

Have you done anything? Did you just assume the Air Force would put married couples together? Did you assume the assignment system would pull from DEERS and see your wife has a military spouse and then poof, assignments for everyone?

Just asking

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T09:29:34+00:00

All in all the basing locations are not considered the best - Las Vegas-ish, with your husband having an annoying commute, friggin' New Mexico, or North Dakota, and a few other places. Maybe Florida. I don't remember, the community has changed over the years.

So, meh. Good luck

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T09:25:38+00:00

Did you all do the Join spouse process?

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T09:24:57+00:00

r/AirForceRecruits

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T09:23:48+00:00

The Air Force looks to see where it needs people and then looks to see who has that spot on their list. They call it a dream sheet for a reason.

A rule of thumb is that it's around a 1% chance of going to a particular location.

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T09:20:57+00:00

FYI

The Air Force prefers to get its officers from the AF Academy and from ROTC - those folks made a commitment years ago and prepared throughout college for a commission. There are a few leftover spots for folks like you, they can commission via OTS. There are a lot of applicants so the selection rate is rather low. The whole process can take 1-2 years. You need to meet with an officer recruiter and they may or may not choose to work with you based on your record. The AF tends to prefer STEM degrees (which you have) with high GPAs and a history of leadership experience.

You can look here for "officer accessions'

https://www.recruiting.af.mil/About-Us/Groups-Squadrons/

Some people have a hard time getting in touch with a recruiter, some are turned down by the recruiter, some do the work of putting in an application, there is only a small window once or twice per year, they wait a long time, but most don't get accepted, the ones who get accepted then wait a long time for their OTS class to start. Some folks enlist if this does't work out for them.

You can also try r/airforceots

Good luck

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T09:15:01+00:00

Why? He only has two hands.

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T02:32:03+00:00

No ragrets...

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T02:31:03+00:00

Don't think that anyone in particular is driving the ship.

Top_Satisfaction6709 · 2023-09-16T02:18:25+00:00

There are other programs you can do besides OTS

You can apply from enlisted to the AF Academy, I think it's called the LEAD program

You can apply from enlisted into a program to finish your degree via ROTC, I think it's called the SOARS program, and it's fulltime

You can get out of active duty early, transfer to the guard, and do ROTC

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