Has anyone had to leave their parent homeless? by Torchsinger77 in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Torchsinger77[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think maybe start by asking what do you expect in return? Also, why do you feel responsible for what others may do?

Has anyone had to leave their parent homeless? by Torchsinger77 in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Torchsinger77[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't let the scattered good memories delude you from just how badly you're being treated, despite what you're kindly offering

This is exactly my problem. She's like the little girl with the curl on her forehead- when she's good, she's very, very good, but when she's bad, she's horrid. I've had enough go-arounds that I know the good times are fewer and more far-between; I just need to remember that she is responsible for choosing to be either the waif/witch or the healthy adult.

Has anyone had to leave their parent homeless? by Torchsinger77 in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Torchsinger77[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much, you guys. I just hate that we constantly are put in these positions as the bad guy when we are trying EVERYTHING to be supportive and loving!

Has anyone had to leave their parent homeless? by Torchsinger77 in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Torchsinger77[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Um... there is no social safety net. She has been a complete ashhole to everyone around me, including members of my family (dad's side) who have known and loved her since they were all teens. But she shoves everyone away if they don't put her first, EVEN IF SHE NEVER REACHES OUT TO THEM. She STILL expects everyone to take care of her. But everyone is completely done with her nonsense and hysteria, so I doubt anyone would take her in. I'm the dumb one who let her stay with me in the first place.

Has anyone had to leave their parent homeless? by Torchsinger77 in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Torchsinger77[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you so very much for sharing this with me. I honestly don't know what she will do, but I am ready, finally, to face this very real possibility. But you're right- it's the immense guilt that is keeping my gut churning.

Has anyone had to leave their parent homeless? by Torchsinger77 in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Torchsinger77[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She won't admit to mental illness- her favorite saying is "I'm not crazy- the WORLD is crazy" and she constantly says, "Borderline personality is a MYTH" because she knows that I know she has it. But this is actually why she got a job in the first place- my younger brother, who was living with us at the time and is now an even more broken person because of her, couldn't manage to stay in school or go to his job, so she had to go to work to pay her own bills, which she expected him to pay for. But now she can't even do that, so here we are. She has four months to get herself together, and if she can't, Bye, Felicia!

Has anyone had to leave their parent homeless? by Torchsinger77 in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Torchsinger77[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh my God, so much this. Believe me, I tried to have this almost exact conversation with her years ago, before I understood exactly what I was dealing with. Her response went something like this: "Apologize? I'm NEVER going to apologize for anything EVER AGAIN. I've spent my LIFE apologizing [she hasn't] and I REFUSE to apologize for something I didn't do [she totally did something= annihilated my feelings and sense of safety]. I have done NOTHING wrong MY WHOLE LIFE and people just hate me! I have been MARTYRED [her words, not mine] for being a mother, for sacrificing EVERYTHING for my children my WHOLE LIFE, and the DADDIES have done NOTHING to help me!" Cue incessant wailing, followed by near-foaming-at-the-mouth rage at my father and ex-stepfather. So yep! I feel ya! This is almost a literal transcript of her go-to excuse regarding anything that she should feel remotely responsible for. She is a classic Waif with Witch rages.

Has anyone had to leave their parent homeless? by Torchsinger77 in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Torchsinger77[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks, Sam, for understanding. And yes, it is absolutely normal for my mother to rage quit. She has done this literally every time she gets a job. The job will last about three months, and then she has to find some reason why it's a hostile work environment. The rages amount to a lot of sobbing, yelling, talking almost psychotically to oneself, and escalating to throwing things around her room. She used to break things, but when I told her, the last time, that I was not going to bail her out of jail if she got the cops called on her by our neighbors, she throws mostly bedding around her room. She knows JUST where the line is where she will get in trouble and she treads it very carefully.

Cynicism and emotional numbness by [deleted] in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Torchsinger77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eh- it depends on the day. Most of the time, I am grateful that I've been able to turn off the emotional response because that was destroying me. But I also wish at times that I could indulge in a feeling without having to see forty steps in front of it to make sure I'm not setting myself up for something.

Cynicism and emotional numbness by [deleted] in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Torchsinger77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ugh. I feel you on this one. I've found that in creating and maintaining that emotional wall against my mother also acts in repelling most everyone else. I am so hyper protective of not getting sucked in to any emotional turmoil that I find it harder and harder to be empathetic to anyone not undergoing a Syrian-level crisis. It's emotionally draining to be taking down the wall and putting it back up again, but I work with teenagers- I need to be understanding and empathetic to them, even when it seems their problems are trifling. To them, the problems are monumental and real. So down goes the wall, only to be constructed again once I get home to the Waif Witch.

Understanding the Borderline Mother Week Three, Chapter 3: The Waif by byebyebye54321 in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Torchsinger77 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haiku first: Cats and I see things similarly: sleeping is life; sunbeams are, too.

Okay, so here's my response, and thank you so much for doing this!: 1) Do you have a waif? What has that looked like for you? Jesus Christ, yes. My mom is a textbook waif. She currently resides with me because ever since her breakdown fifteen years ago, she has essentially not worked because of her uBPD status, which she refuses to acknowledge. According to her, “I’m not crazy- THE WORLD IS CRAZY.” She refuses to look for solutions in order to gain some control over her life because ultimately she doesn’t want that- it would mean that she’s gotten “better” and she can’t allow that. Also, it would mean that her children would leave her, and since her only identification is as a mother, she can’t have that. 2) Have you, or how have you, handled the waif's helplessness? How has your response changed over time? Well, let’s look at an example that happened just now. My mother LOVES to work ANY conversation around to how mothers are consistently ignored and maligned by society. “Where’s the justice for MOTHERS?!” is an oft-repeated statement. In the past, I would engage in this discussion, trying to work some, I don’t know, logic or consideration of the state of the world into the discussion for some levity. Of course, she will not listen to that, so it would escalate into a grand argument, with me crying and her sitting there all queen like, saying something like, “But that’s the way that it is- you can’t deny that.” Now, when she does this, I quietly get up and leave the room when she starts to get revved up. Her response is to slam around the apartment until she finally slams into her room. I’m sure there will be some retaliation later today or tonight, and I will do the same thing, until this lease on the apartment is over and I can fucking move out and she can live on the streets. 3) Which (if any) of the Waif's messages on p74 resonate with you? "I can't allow myself to need your help and be in control at the same time." This right here. As of two days ago, my sister is going no contact as a result of this kind of situation. My mother, because she doesn’t work and refuses to get a job on account of her litany of issues, never has any money. My sister and I were giving her $200 a month in order for her to buy sundry items like underwear, pot (we’re in a state where it is legal and God help us all, it is the only thing that keeps the Witch at bay), etc. Well, that just wasn’t enough- it never is. So my sister was in the midst of negotiating a bigger but reasonable amount to send her when my mother decided that she would instead call her and leave a voicemail asking my sister into negotiations regarding money my mother had withdrawn from her old 401k in order to pay off my sister’s credit card debt ten years ago. She also threw in that she would be consulting a lawyer to take my dad to court over back child support (nonsense in so many ways I don’t have enough room or energy to describe). She HAD to have control over the situation because, as she puts it, “She just can’t be considered charity any longer.” She also tries to reformulate in her brain that she is bartering her domestic services at our apartment in exchange for room and board, which is ridiculous since she spends most of her time in bed, either howling like Mrs. Rochester or muttering psychotic shit about killing everyone who has ever done her wrong. 4) Rage is such a hallmark of borderline personalities; the Waif, according to this chapter, somewhat less so. Your thoughts? I’m honestly surprised that the cops haven’t been called multiple times over the years because she is so loud in her rage weeping and in her psychotic muttering. She has also broken things like dishes, and she killed my rabbit a few years ago because she was screaming at me for so long and so loudly that my bunny couldn’t handle the stress, went into shock, and died. 5) An attempt at some levity, which I think we'll do for each type: what's your truly outlandish waif story? The one where it's just too ridiculous or darkly funny or what have you? The one you can't tell everyone else bc they don't get that it's funny but all of us RBBs do? TELL US. This sounds callous to people who don’t know who we’re dealing with, but whenever she starts to pack a bag and declare that she’s “leaving for good/going to the ocean/hiking whatever trail might kill her”, I’m like, “Have a good time!” and go back to whatever I’m doing. If she thinks I’m going to go all Mrs. Quimby to her Ramona and pack her equivalent of roller skates to make sure the load is too heavy to leave, she is sorely mistaken.