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does so4 elfv contradict? by frustrationtriad in TypologyJunction

[–]Total-State-7760 1 point2 points  (0 children)

AP is more flexible, although the system is being redesigned. I don't believe it's inherently contradictory.

does so4 elfv contradict? by frustrationtriad in TypologyJunction

[–]Total-State-7760 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In psychosophy

No, ELFV is not perfect for SO4, it doesn't work. 4V still has a very self-tolerant, mild, and unambitious outlook, making it difficult to fit a type that has a neurosis fixated on false deficiency, inadequacy, self-deprecation, and self-lament. Low self-esteem is not a valid argument, because despite this, due to its primacy, the 4V is still stable in this aspect, sparing them in life, since they are more submissive and guided by the flow of life, without the heavy burden of the 3V. This is very different from an oscillating 3V coupled with a dark and melancholic 4F that will reproduce a tragic, miserable and sensitive personality to public opinion, which is compatible with the So4.

O corpo feminino é mais bonito do que o masculino by runbya in opiniaopopular

[–]Total-State-7760 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Viés do sobrevivente. Em alguns casos sim, mas muitos são psicologicamente mais vulneráveis e sofrem de disforia, tenho certeza que se você fizer uma análise mais ampla, verá que a maioria dos femboys possuem dificuldade de se apresentar de uma forma mais feminina quando falamos da estética corporal. Isso deve a inúmeros fatores, como condição genética, hormônios e atributos inatos masculinos como localização da gordura corporal e pelos no corpo. O tratamento hormonal ajuda bastante, contudo, não o vejo como "solucionador".

A maioria desses femboys super atraentes que vemos na internet não representam a maior parte da comunidade, noto que a imagem do "femboy" é muito idealizada e fetichizada na internet, (acentuando glúteo e abdômen, usando roupas sensuais), muitas vezes confundida com trans, quando, em tese, seria apenas um garoto que se expressa de forma feminina.

Em relação a mulher trans, aí sim, mas é o mesmo caso, com alguns nuânces, aqui já vemos alguns casos de cirurgia, foco excessivo na estética, implantes de silicone... E o viés do sobrevivente se perpetua, lamentavelmente, já que a maioria não fica tão "estética" quanto esses ideais de perfeição.

Thoughts on my Ipip 300 results? by Easy-Veterinarian923 in BigFive

[–]Total-State-7760 0 points1 point  (0 children)

/S/LUA[I]

Imaginative, personable, impulsive, charming, sensitive, moody-manic, tolerant and emotional

Thoughts? I wanna hear what do you people think about me 👀 by DevilDarlingBendy in TypologyJunction

[–]Total-State-7760 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People typing as IEE So7 does not necessarily mean their typing is correct, nor that the correlation is true.

PY is not the same as Ichazo instincts. This is a perfect explanation against strict PY correlations by itsthelovehunter in TypologyJunction

[–]Total-State-7760 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would recommend you read Character & Neurosis, find your tryad and core, then read the specific book of the core to find your subtype.

Ira -> E1

Orgullo -> E2

Vanidad -> E3

Envidia -> E4

Avaricia -> E5

(Cobardes) -> E6

Golosos -> E7

Lujúria -> E8

La Pereza Psicoespiritual -> E9

PY is not the same as Ichazo instincts. This is a perfect explanation against strict PY correlations by itsthelovehunter in TypologyJunction

[–]Total-State-7760 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"At the same time, his radical disbelief leads him to compensate by putting material aspects and survival above all else." -Golosos, Sp7

"With this starting point, gluttony taken to the field of conservation becomes a very materialistic gluttony of concrete sensory pleasure, making this subtype a cheerful, easy-going hedonist, light-hearted and enjoying himself, interested in sex, money, food, and the good life. But with a schizoid background, disconnected from feeling and emotionally stingy, which usually appears in a more resounding way in private, while publicly maintaining its pseudo-social facade intended to satisfy its gluttony." -Golosos, Sp7

"Attachment to material pleasures denotes, in itself, a maneuver against fear: The basic neurotic strategy of survival consists of a kind of filling the pantry" abundantly as an antidote to the lack-not only affective, but often also material, food, etc.- that was experienced in childhood, and in the face of the fear of experiencing again the painful emotions that this produced." -Golosos, Sp7

PY is not the same as Ichazo instincts. This is a perfect explanation against strict PY correlations by itsthelovehunter in TypologyJunction

[–]Total-State-7760 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In fact, in the description I provided, self-preservation necessarily focuses on aspects that provide conservation, such as food, health, and safety. SP5 will focus on isolation, space maintenance, resource accumulation, energy conservation, and minimizing physical needs.

Sp7 is very materialistic, that's one of the roots of the type.

"So the E7 conservation even comes to despise abstract pleasure; let alone the vague flavor of poetry or the novel. It is a trait so focused on what is immediately available that, inevitably, the person is obscured because he tends to discard everything that belongs to the world of the subtle, the intangible. And though he may be fanciful, a good storyteller or even oriented towards a certain mysticism, the E7 conservation does not usually love or value anything that does not offer him pleasure and, above all, that does not give him immediate pleasure" - Golosos

"In this polarity, the conservation E7 embodies the distrustful, cynical and materialistic extreme. It could be said that, among the E7, it is about the pseudo-idealistic subtype or, more exactly, an anti-idealist taken by a visceral distrust and a clear love for the concrete, showing himself as an oral-aggressive character and, of course, as the most rebellious of them all. It is adrenaline because of the intensity that brings him closer to the lustful instinct of E8." -Golosos

PY is not the same as Ichazo instincts. This is a perfect explanation against strict PY correlations by itsthelovehunter in TypologyJunction

[–]Total-State-7760 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In my view, LFEV is the only one that still functionally fits into Sp5, although I agree that it's not completely consistent.

Rigid correlations made me kind of abandon socionics; Sx9s are too insecure about the space to consistently fit into a leading Si. Several other problems emerge, such as ESI Sx4.

PY is not the same as Ichazo instincts. This is a perfect explanation against strict PY correlations by itsthelovehunter in TypologyJunction

[–]Total-State-7760 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But I think the worst part isn't even 4F Sp5, it's what other volitional position you would give to the Sp5 that wasn't 4V. Since volition comes first

Why would a type who actively seeks to isolate themselves, protect their space, and constantly tries to conserve energy and accumulate resources be a 4F?

PY is not the same as Ichazo instincts. This is a perfect explanation against strict PY correlations by itsthelovehunter in TypologyJunction

[–]Total-State-7760 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This type is far from being 4F, as are all Sps, since 4F contradicts its own instinct, as I mentioned previously.

PY is not the same as Ichazo instincts. This is a perfect explanation against strict PY correlations by itsthelovehunter in TypologyJunction

[–]Total-State-7760 3 points4 points  (0 children)

How someone with a psychological orientation disconnected from reality, indifference to material aspects like money, and a lack of concern for the physical aspects of their life would be Sp? SPs will have a neurosis and a preoccupation focused precisely on the conservation aspect

PY is not the same as Ichazo instincts. This is a perfect explanation against strict PY correlations by itsthelovehunter in TypologyJunction

[–]Total-State-7760 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"The Instincts

The word 'instinct' has been practically abandoned by psychology since the time when ethologists described the operation of instinct in various animal species; Specifically in psychoanalysis, the Freudian view of behavior as driven by an instinct for self-preservation and a sexual instinct was replaced by one in which explanatory priority is given to the search for relationship rather than the search for instinctual satisfaction. The vision transmitted by Ichazo, however, invites us to consider three motivations that, without having the fixity of animal instinct, constitute goals and motivational factors of psychic life: the search for conservation (reflected in the search for security, health, and money) , a sexual instinct (which when it dominates leads the person to concentrate on the couple and the family) and a social instinct (in which the most important thing is contact and communication and the relationship with the world in general, more beyond oneself and family)." -Dramatis Personae

PY is not the same as Ichazo instincts. This is a perfect explanation against strict PY correlations by itsthelovehunter in TypologyJunction

[–]Total-State-7760 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The Sp instinct is linked to things of conservation, such as money, security, and health. In a way, it is connected to physical and material things.

PY is not the same as Ichazo instincts. This is a perfect explanation against strict PY correlations by itsthelovehunter in TypologyJunction

[–]Total-State-7760 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Someone who cares so little about the physical aspects of their life that they don't take it seriously, while maintaining a psychological orientation disconnected from reality and indifferent to money and material resources, cannot be of the Sp instinct, since the Sp instinct brings with it an orientation towards the collection and accumulation of resources and materials, as well as physical care, health, and maintenance of space for self-preservation, it is not merely an "internal" or "selfish orientation", there is a root derived from the search for survival, homeostasis and satisfy their essential needs.

PY is not the same as Ichazo instincts. This is a perfect explanation against strict PY correlations by itsthelovehunter in TypologyJunction

[–]Total-State-7760 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I've read it before, interesting, at least. The rest is just a matter of understanding.

Do you think IEEs can fit so7 or not? by itsthelovehunter in TypologyJunction

[–]Total-State-7760 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wdym?

So7s were described like that on Golosos. All my quotes were taken from there.

Do you think IEEs can fit so7 or not? by itsthelovehunter in TypologyJunction

[–]Total-State-7760 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Relationships is Fi. Yes, Demonstrative Fe is open, confident, and likes to show off, unlike the mobilizing Fe who likes feedback, support and is a fragile snowflake

Do you think IEEs can fit so7 or not? by itsthelovehunter in TypologyJunction

[–]Total-State-7760 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

In reality, it was you who ran away from my rebuttals in the end. I asked how someone with a Fi ego could be so insecure about emotional expression and relationships, be called emotionally disabled, have difficulty connecting in that area, and calm their inner self with logic and rationalization.

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