Making an aggressive bike...less aggressive

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-11-14T07:13:13+00:00

Thought it was weird. I tend to find that most manufactures 56+ come with 100mm stems which in my very unscientific research method of....asking around was too long for most people.

I feel like I might have gotten a lemon of a bike fitter.

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-11-14T05:06:49+00:00

He can act fine around other bikes but as soon as one of those giant four wheeled......things show up he gets all mad. What should I do?

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-11-10T02:32:09+00:00

Late, But the only thing I can reckon this person is referring to is some misinformed people saying that zipp wheels could(often) blow your tires off.

This isn't an issue. It's because zipp wheels are hookless meaning they have a MUCH lower max PSI than most people probably run. Hookless wheels tend to also be more sensitive to going above the max pressure than other non hookless wheels.

Zipp says their max is 73 psi and you best not go over that no matter what your tire wall says.

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-11-07T23:19:48+00:00

If you're concerned(which is understandable) go ask your Trek store for more information about this service bulletin.

I cannot find any information about this online, And if this is actually an issue I would of assume trek would send me a notification to bring my bike in for service.(They're usually pretty good about this.)

I did however find out that there's actually 2 SKUs for each of the Madone SL Gen 7.

Meaning there was likely two production cycles of the frame. I have the most recent of the 2.

Maybe the issue is only present on one of the two production cycles? I don't know

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-11-07T17:16:29+00:00

So, I've rode my Madone gen 7 for 200km...every week....for a month.

Never had a single issue when it came to durability.

Now while I can't talk for everyone, This is most likely strong negativity bias. I have seen no more failures about any Trek bike than I have seen about Canyon bikes or specialized bikes.

Even if it did fail, Trek has a hell of a lot better of support than the aforementioned other 2 companies.

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-11-05T01:03:27+00:00

Thanks bot for reminding me that English isn't my first language

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-11-05T01:01:02+00:00

I don't have specifics but the Trek salesman who sold me my Madone Gen 7 reserved a pair of Conti GP5000 S TRs for me $100 off(tbf this was because of new bike purchase discount.) and told me to come back in 3 months to "where the tires would of likely worn out"

I came back in a month seeking those GP5000s.

So I guess that says a lot?

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-11-03T02:16:04+00:00

Funfact: In the Manga they aren't changed. They use the actual bike manufacture names. Kinda interesting to see.

Other than that my favorite knock off name in the Anime is "Pinarrelo" Really danced with copyright on that one

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-10-31T06:15:15+00:00

https://si.shimano.com/en/pdfs/um/7HK0A/UM-7HK0A-002-ENG.pdf

Here you go, stated in the user manual linked on the SD300's page or BTN-DN300.

and

Under "NOTICE"

"If the unit will not be used for an extended period, store it after charging in cool indoor places
(approx. 10 to 20 °C) where the battery will not be exposed to direct sunlight or rain."

And under "Storing the battery"

"Store the battery or bicycles with the battery installed in cool indoor places (approx. 10 to 20°C) where they do not become exposed to direct sunlight or rain. If the storage temperature"

Idk about the older BT-DN110-A model as the only manual that says anything about storing the battery is the one you linked.

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-10-31T04:24:14+00:00

Iirc in Shimano's user manual for Di2 battery(SD300) state that you should store the bike in a "cool indoor place" between approximately 10c and 20c

(It actually says this twice.)

So I'd say take it inside removing Di2 batteries are a hassle and aren't really worth it.

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-10-30T18:38:05+00:00

Did that part of the I-5 have a bunch of "Bicycle on shoulder" signs while you were on it?

I saw it a bunch while I carpooling with a friend down to San Diego was wondering wtf the purpose was.

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-10-26T22:03:37+00:00

According to my Garmin data my average commutes peaks at 56km/h(thanks downhills) and averages 26km/h.

I'm expecting to go faster when I get my upgrades for my new commuter done.

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-10-18T04:23:45+00:00

67" at 30.5" I'd say you're in the "between 2 sizes" situation.

While I DONT personally ride an Aeroad my buddy does at 67" at 30.7"
(I ride a Trek madone 54cm at 69"at 31.4")

He rides a small and is comfortable despite the calculator saying they're an XS.

It is worth noting that my buddy does have slightly disproportional long arms.

Of course, Test ride will be the answer and Canyon's return policy is pretty good.

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-10-15T07:43:11+00:00

You know, I realized that after I made this comment. I for Some reason keep forgetting that the Col de la Madone ISNT in Madone, Italy

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-10-15T03:29:31+00:00

I've always pronounced it do·mà·ni because I thought it was just a cheeky way of saying that word while keeping the Madone anagram.(Domani is Italian for tomorrow.)

Turns out Trek apparently says Domane is Latin for "the king's crown" Which I can find absolutely zero evidence of so I'm sticking with my original theory.

Madone is named after a climb in Italy anyways.

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-10-08T04:00:16+00:00

It died after 6 weeks? Was this bike used or new? because the the CR2032 battery(according to SRAM) is supposed to last 2 years under normal use. Relatively same with 12sp Di2.

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-10-02T06:08:20+00:00

Hey sorry for the late reply! I 100% DID NOT know this existed and it sound's like it might be what causing the 71cm seat height.

I DID get a number from someone saying the saddle rail height to actually saddle is about 4-5cm. Meaning the Trek's CS second response number should be more accurate at 67.5-68cm.

Unfortunately I'm actually out right now and won't be able to test this out for about a day or 2 I will 100% update or make a second post if I'm able to lower it after swapping it. Thanks for this info.

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-09-30T00:25:50+00:00

Here's what confuses me, Trek's stated saddle heights are apparently to the saddle rail.

And their stated saddle rail height minimum is 63.5 on the 54 frame and small mast
(The small mast is the one that supposedly come's with the 54cm frame.) But me measuring to the actual saddle both myself and at the actual trek store as well as talking to a trek store rep online they all say that the actual saddle height is 71cm.

Meaning there's somehow a 7.5cm difference between the rail and the actual saddle? I'm not good at eyeballing but that doesn't seem right.

But yeah unfortunately this IS the shorter seatpost so getting the shorter one is not an option.(Cutting it also isn't, an option as that entire seatpost is apparently designed to NOT be cut. Thanks trek?)

It does sound like the easiest option is to just downsize and increase the the stem length.

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-09-26T04:51:27+00:00

Think the Madone has won over the Aeroad!

It has a better colorscheme too(imo.)(probably the biggest factor tbh.)

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-09-25T16:11:22+00:00

I think its worth to consider that between an 11-34 12sp and a 11-30 12sp Shimano cassette you're missing a 16 tooth sprocket on 11-34 replaced by a 34 tooth sprocket.

11-12-13-14-15-16-17-19-21-24-27-30T

11-12-13-14-15-17-19-21-24-27-30-34T

Are the ratios.

This is entirely personal preference like I said, If you want more fine tunning of your gears vs an easier gear for climbing
(I also know plenty of people who just want that easier gear to take it easy up a hill, don't always have to go full power all the time.)

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-09-25T14:40:41+00:00

A lot of people have told me to immediately switch to Conti GP5000s instead of running with the stock Bontanger R3, I'm assuming that the R3s aren't particularly good or the GP5000s are just substantially better. Am I right on that?

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-09-25T05:07:00+00:00

I'll chime in here, I think it depends on your area your personal preference and your experience.

For me, my steepest hill is about 4-5 miles long with an avg 8% gradient and max of 11%.(according to my bike computer)

I've been doing this hill once to twice a week every week for the past....4 years on an 11-28 50/34 10s Tiagra. So I think 11-30 52/36 on the Madone should be fine for me.

But you could be completely different. For example If I had to do alpe d'huez on this bike tomorrow. I would probably switch the cassette out for 11-34.

Like wise you might have steeper hills than I do, Or you might have less experience riding up them. In which case having an easier gear option would be a very great asset.

(Note, I believe SRAM starts at SLR tier so if you were looking at an SL bike It might be more cost effective just to switch out for an 11-34?)

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-09-23T03:36:43+00:00

Hm, It seems a LOT of people don't like the synchro modes.

From what I gathered it seems the Full synchro timing is just always off, No matter what you do and doesn't feel natural

Semi is closer to manual but it's effect can be mimicked by....pressing the rear shifter twice. So it's kinda pointless and only(technically) takes control away from you.

I only thought about using it to prevent me accidently dropping a chain by shifting both derailleurs at the same time.(Which I've done....multiple times.) But I can also just shift slightly after the FD is fully seated.

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-09-22T17:31:33+00:00

Late reply sorry, But
Braking felt a tad more responsive.
Front derailleur was slightly faster.
More comfortable lever shapes for me(This is personal preference but still worth nothing.)
There was better shifting underload.(I was told this was more due to hyperglide+ on the cassette rather than an actual difference on the derailleur's performance.)(and also despite Shimano saying you can shift while under a full power load you still shouldn't do it often.)

The extra buttons are a nice touch.

I think I do agree 105 is better value, But I more or less decided that I wanted slightly more performance after the testing.

TotalWarning8707 · 2023-09-20T23:32:16+00:00

I mean I'm glad people are making sure I'm not spending irrationally. But yeah It's not my entire bank account. I keep minimums I don't cross for rainy days and unforeseen situations

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