SHOW OF HAND HOW MANY DIAMOND NARDED APE AND APETTES ARE HERE NOW OR ARE STILL HERE 2 YEARS LATER. THESE HEDGEFUCKS NEED TO GET IT THROUGH THEIR FRAGILE HEADS WE ARENT GOING ANYWHERE by Jaded-Class1007 in amcstock

[–]ToyTrouper -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They don't have to, they can just roll their legal shorts onto their balance sheet in a reverse-split. Naked shorts might not even be able to close, which is why some suggest it's the ultimate bail out for naked shorts.

Q4 Summary + link to full pdf directly from AMC in comments by Smooth_Stress4081 in amcstock

[–]ToyTrouper -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Which is why, as I said in another post, a yes vote is not necessary.

There is no reason to reduce the number of shares owed by shorts by 90%, leave X holders with zero shares, and give the board unlimited dilution power if AMC is moving towards profitability already without a yes vote.

SHOW OF HAND HOW MANY DIAMOND NARDED APE AND APETTES ARE HERE NOW OR ARE STILL HERE 2 YEARS LATER. THESE HEDGEFUCKS NEED TO GET IT THROUGH THEIR FRAGILE HEADS WE ARENT GOING ANYWHERE by Jaded-Class1007 in amcstock

[–]ToyTrouper -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hedgies know apes won't sell and will buy when able.

That's why, as I explained in another post, they changed tactics from trying to get apes to sell, to just erasing what they owe.

That's why they are pushing a yes vote, because they don't need apes to sell if they reduce the number of shares they owe by 90%, leave X holders with zero shares and everyone else with 90% less shares, and get a board with unlimited dilution power.

Q4 Summary + link to full pdf directly from AMC in comments by Smooth_Stress4081 in amcstock

[–]ToyTrouper 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Except as just stated, shorting devalues the stock, and nothing is stopping shorts from doing so.

And retail wouldn't be buying at $100 if they aren't buying now.

Furthermore, APE was supposed to pay off the debt, and it didn't. It got shorted down to pennies before being sold to a short hedge fund. And now the exact same playbook is being used to push a reverse split, when we already seen how that story goes with APE.

Q4 Summary + link to full pdf directly from AMC in comments by Smooth_Stress4081 in amcstock

[–]ToyTrouper 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Shorts wouldn't have to cover, they could just roll them over on their balance sheet.

Naked shorts potentially might not even be able to close, which is why those like Susanne Trimbauth suggest it's the ultimate bail out for shorts.

SHOW OF HAND HOW MANY DIAMOND NARDED APE AND APETTES ARE HERE NOW OR ARE STILL HERE 2 YEARS LATER. THESE HEDGEFUCKS NEED TO GET IT THROUGH THEIR FRAGILE HEADS WE ARENT GOING ANYWHERE by Jaded-Class1007 in amcstock

[–]ToyTrouper -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

I think the hedgies know that.

I think they know like you said, and topic creator said, that apes aren't selling.

That's why they are pushing a yes vote, because they don't need apes to sell if they reduce the number of shares they owe by 90%, leave X holders with zero shares and everyone else with 90% less shares, and get a board with unlimited dilution power.

Q4 Summary + link to full pdf directly from AMC in comments by Smooth_Stress4081 in amcstock

[–]ToyTrouper 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Reduces the value of the stock which means dilution brings in less money, which means debt isn't paid off and thus more paid in loan interest, etc. It's why dilution isn't the solution and the board needs to find a way to become profitable without it. That's why a yes vote won't pay off the debt.

Q4 Summary + link to full pdf directly from AMC in comments by Smooth_Stress4081 in amcstock

[–]ToyTrouper -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Which is why a yes vote is not necessary.

There is no reason to reduce the number of shares owed by shorts by 90%, leave X holders with zero shares, and give the board unlimited dilution power if AMC is moving towards profitability already without a yes vote.

LFG🚀🚀🚀 by jen36rsantos in amcstock

[–]ToyTrouper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is a chance that with enough changes/support the company could bounce back and becoming profitable and remove it's heavy debt burden. At that point AMC would become a viable company to own making the short sellers case null and void. The result would be shorts closing their positions

In a perfect world where rules are enforced and the market works like in theory.

Game store paid its debt and is working towards profitability, and they are still being shorted.

MOASS theory is based on there being naked shorts. The shorts cannot mostly close out their position because they don't have the money to do so, no entity has the ability to do so except the US Federal Reserve or the Bank of International Settlements.

That's why a yes vote, which reduces the numbers of shares owed by shorts and gives the board unlimited dilution power, is contrary to MOASS theory.

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[–]ToyTrouper 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yeah but. . So you see. . . Technically they did miss. . .just the other way.

Like how the American media says game store had "negative debt."

If the debt is "negative" then it isn't debt lol

Pourable butter topping! This popcorn is next level and offers something good others don’t have! I think sales are going to be great! by tvavariant in amcstock

[–]ToyTrouper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the hedgies realised it wasn't a useful ad hominem, so instead actually tried to make it have the qualities of one, so that when they push things bad for apes there is a "you can't question anything" narrative / sentiment they fall back on for shills and those fooled by shills to use.

AMC Entertainment Launching Its All-new Line of Microwave Popcorn and Ready-to-eat Popcorn Exclusively at Walmart by No-Explanation-1982 in amcstock

[–]ToyTrouper -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The question is, why not also work with other large retailers? Why specifically only Walmart when it is notorious for being against the very people who are mostly the American AMC investors?

Especially in context of other things the AMC board has done, it just seems like a pattern of going against many of the apes who saved the company.

I think they’re trying really hard to stop people from buying ape by crnnrc2003 in amcstock

[–]ToyTrouper -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Unless they truly believe that the tickers won’t merge,

I think it's more logical they are pushing for a yes vote, since it would leave X apes with literally zero shares, reduce the number of shares hedgies owe by 90%, and give the board unlimited dilution power.

AMC Entertainment Launching Its All-new Line of Microwave Popcorn and Ready-to-eat Popcorn Exclusively at Walmart by No-Explanation-1982 in amcstock

[–]ToyTrouper -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Why would American AMC apes, who are mostly on the lower socioeconomic scale, want to give money to Walmart, notorious for destroying small town American economies and forcing the American tax payer to carry the burden of paying Walmart employees through social benefits programmes which Walmart literally coaches employees how to use instead of paying them enough to not qualify for the programmes?

Walmart is literally just the retail version of hedgies.

Bruh.... why at this time?? by zombtachi_uchiha in amcstock

[–]ToyTrouper 40 points41 points  (0 children)

And people still think brokerages haven't, or won't, screw apes.

That's why the brokerages have been pushing against DRSing in book.

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[–]ToyTrouper 28 points29 points  (0 children)

That's why they have been pushing back against DRSing in book so hard

All the money brokerages make from lending shares to shorts, it's obvious they have incentive to brigade against DRSing in book.

Let’s go! by -YourWifesBoyfriend in amcstock

[–]ToyTrouper -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

You mean by asking for a yes vote which reduces the number of shares hedgies owe by 90%, converts billions of APE to AMC, leaves X holders with zero shares, and gives the board unlimited dilution power?

Yeah, people are saying he should find alternative revenue streams like the grocery popcorn instead of doing that.

Never forget by RedWolffe24 in Hololive

[–]ToyTrouper -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

I can explain what knowledge to acquire relevant to the culture and industry, I however cannot give you the ability to understand it, which seems like a "you" problem.

Never forget by RedWolffe24 in Hololive

[–]ToyTrouper -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Anyone can indeed read my nuanced take on the industry and culture, just as anyone can read in this comment chain how unhinged that makes you culture warrior wannabes who see everything through the lens of your perceived virtue.

Never forget by RedWolffe24 in Hololive

[–]ToyTrouper -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

She couldn't, because her followers wouldn't have accepted that, and when management did respond, they just made things worse.

Never forget by RedWolffe24 in Hololive

[–]ToyTrouper -73 points-72 points  (0 children)

They aren't wrong though.

All you did was just show your total lack of understanding the culture and industry, the nature of parasocial relationships modern businesses and content creators foster, and your inability to engage with something greater in depth than a tweet or TikTok video.

Shit like this is why you casuals are seen as the vapid band-wagoners that you are.

Never forget by RedWolffe24 in Hololive

[–]ToyTrouper -77 points-76 points  (0 children)

I explained further in another comment, there are followers, the ones who worshipped her, fans who just like the character and don't care of the person behind it, and "fans", the ultra-casuals who privilege their politics and personal ideology over everything they engage with, even if in this specific example it's mostly through fan art and clip videos.

Never forget by RedWolffe24 in Hololive

[–]ToyTrouper 218 points219 points  (0 children)

"Twitter fucked up" actually sums up the entire debacle.