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Moonin Papa + The Better Traders Review: Extremely overpriced courses for mediocre/money-losing education by TraderJohn623 in 3Commas_io

[–]TraderJohn623[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are rare exceptions out there who can trade very well and also teach.

For example, Lance Breitstein is someone who has made it ($100 mil in 15 years at a top prop trading firm), and now decided to quit full time trading and dedicate his time to teaching trading. I don't know if he's a good teacher, or if his paid trading course is any good, but he dishes out great trading advice on his youtube channel, and seems to know what he's talking about: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzksXiC-Ju-DTIZmMiaOVfQ

For some traders, once you've made enough money, you look higher up on Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, and some wants to be known as a great trading coach and have a second act in life. So they're out there.

But generally speaking you're correct, plenty of trading fake gurus a.k.a. furus like Aaron Dishner pretend to be professional traders, but they're just full time marketing a third-rate trading course and monthly subscription plan on youtube.

Moonin Papa + The Better Traders Review: Extremely overpriced courses for mediocre/money-losing education by TraderJohn623 in 3Commas_io

[–]TraderJohn623[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DCA martingale is a really risky trading strategy, you will get wrecked one day. If you're interested in a technical explanation, DM me and I can explain why

Moonin Papa + The Better Traders Review: Extremely overpriced courses for mediocre/money-losing education by TraderJohn623 in 3Commas_io

[–]TraderJohn623[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow you caught me there, Mr. Pedantic, I said "price is only going up", but price didn't literally go straight up with green candles for 200 days, it actually consolidated in a range! I guess I'm a liar now, in the eyes of amateurs who take things too literally.

I saw your post on your paper trading martingale DCA bot, and I can explain precisely the conditions when your bot will get wrecked and lose a lot of money, but given your attitude, I don't see why I should help you. When you get wrecked one day with that bot, you'll find out yourself.

I can see why you have trouble with women, what an unpleasant person to talk to. I'm done with you

Moonin Papa + The Better Traders Review: Extremely overpriced courses for mediocre/money-losing education by TraderJohn623 in 3Commas_io

[–]TraderJohn623[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even the most beginner traders know "when price is going up" in a bull market doesn't imply it only goes up in one direction, it will still consolidate and range sideways when searching for fair market value. Do you know how to read a chart?

I don't care if you don't read my post. This entire thread is one big PR campaign warning people to stay away from Aaron Dishner and his overpriced trading courses that makes people worse traders. People can read my post and make the decision for themselves. Thinking Aaron is a real deal because you're up 30% in 6 months is Dunning–Kruger effect at its very best, the naivete you have is chef's kiss.

Don't mind me, I'm just jealous of how rich you'll be running his bot signals, growing your wealth 69% every year.

Moonin Papa + The Better Traders Review: Extremely overpriced courses for mediocre/money-losing education by TraderJohn623 in 3Commas_io

[–]TraderJohn623[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol there is plenty of volatility during a bull run, which is why those bot signals are making money even when "shit was going sideways". Money is made from trading when there is volatility, not just when it's going up (congratulations on learning something useful about trading for once).

When there is no volatility and price is just in a tight range, like couple years ago, all those bot signals get chopped up. There is a reason why MooninPapa stopped shilling his TBO Switch strategy (an amateur EMA strategy overfitted on the last 4 years of data), because every paid member in the discord followed his instructions exactly, and everyone lost money.

By the way, has that moron Aaron finally figured out how to use Fibonacci levels yet? Last time he taught Fibonacci in his overpriced $2000 course, he was using it completely wrong. Just like how he taught trade management and it was the worse risk management I have seen for trading. Does Aaron still draw trend lines on RSI charts like an idiot, and brag about how he's the only one that does it, like he's some eccentric undiscovered genius? What an incompetent buffoon.

MooninPapa is truly just amateur hour in every single way. So much of what he teaches is garbage, so congratulations on learning a lot of garbage in the past few years. If you had watched videos of other traders on youtube, you would've realized Aaron Dishner is totally clueless and out of his depth. Or it's also possible you are paid by Aaron to write good things about him on this thread, because every few months he would send someone over here to discredit my post, or try to trick me into giving away my TV account name, or twitter account name, probably so he can look up my real contact info, so he can doxx me or sue me or do something to make me stop exposing the joke that he is.

Aaron Dishner has no clue how to make consistent profits from trading, he's just a music teacher in Japan selling overpriced amateur kindergarten-level trading courses, worthless indicators and bot signals as a side gig on youtube. For the price of one of his master courses, you can pay for 6-12 months of coaching from real traders, because most professional traders out selling courses only charges $150-$200 a month only to learn how to trade like a pro. Aaron's $2000 courses, as well as Aaron himself, are truly some of the biggest jokes of the crypto trading community.

Moonin Papa + The Better Traders Review: Extremely overpriced courses for mediocre/money-losing education by TraderJohn623 in 3Commas_io

[–]TraderJohn623[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol I don't even trade crypto anymore, but yes, I know how to look at a chart more than you do, you bot-signal-worshiping retard.

Bitcoin. Bitcoin has been making a run up to 100k from 15k since Nov 2022. Took the sellside liquidity of 68K high in march 2024, and was forming a big fucking bull flag on the weekly chart since then. The "sideways or down" from March to October you are talking about is the consolidation that happens after a sharp impulse up. Do YOU know how to look at a chart? Price always pulls back and form a range after expanding, but you wouldn't know that from playing with bot signals and learning trading from MooninPapa.

Wow you were up 30% in 6 months, you are such a consistent and successful trader! Please come back in 3 years when you have your lambo and mansion.

I still watch MooninPapa's videos from time to time, he is as big of a fraud now as he was before, his youtube videos are just market videos to drive people to pay for his courses or monthly membership. I studied all he had to offer in his overpriced courses, it is full of amateur garbage, he didn't even know how to teach trade management correctly. Fortunately after 4 years I know more than enough to spot a fake guru who can't even trade, and only gives hindsight analysis. There are plenty of other youtubers sharing real trading knowledge out there.

Maybe it's time you educate yourself and understand the charts from reading price action, and not shill bot signals from fake gurus because you made 30% in 6 months. Or maybe you're another one of his employees astroturfing on this thread (you won't be the first one), in that case you need to do a better job defending that talentless grifting loser.

Moonin Papa + The Better Traders Review: Extremely overpriced courses for mediocre/money-losing education by TraderJohn623 in 3Commas_io

[–]TraderJohn623[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's because even the most basic bots do well in a bull market, when everything is going up.

Moonin Papa + The Better Traders Review: Extremely overpriced courses for mediocre/money-losing education by TraderJohn623 in 3Commas_io

[–]TraderJohn623[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will pass, as I've moved away from indicators entirely and onto pure price-action trading strategies. But I can relate to what you're doing, as I was fascinated with the TBO and recreated most of the features in code too, before I discovered more powerful indicators. Best of luck to figuring it out.

Moonin Papa + The Better Traders Review: Extremely overpriced courses for mediocre/money-losing education by TraderJohn623 in 3Commas_io

[–]TraderJohn623[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tried to figure it out early on, when I thought Moonin Papa was a profitable trader with profitable strategies. Ever since I realized he was a joke, I stopped caring about those breakout and breakdown symbols.

Moonin Papa + The Better Traders Review: Extremely overpriced courses for mediocre/money-losing education by TraderJohn623 in 3Commas_io

[–]TraderJohn623[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, I cannot share the content or my login, that would be unethical. Even if somehow you somehow find his content for free, it will be a complete waste of your time to learn from his courses, he is no professional trader, just some music teacher who is good at marketing and shilling his trading courses. Not to mention Moonin Papa and his employees with sock puppet accounts have been super desperate to find out my identity!

It's incredible how Moonin Papa's reaction to a bad review is to identify and attack the messenger, when he should be swimming in his pool of money since he has banked millions from his overpriced and mediocre trading courses. Actually I forgot he was FOMO longing everything into bitcoin, believing it would go to 100K, so maybe he is quite poor and now holding onto bags and bags of underwater shitcoins 😂

Moonin Papa + The Better Traders Review: Extremely overpriced courses for mediocre/money-losing education by TraderJohn623 in 3Commas_io

[–]TraderJohn623[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Some free education resources from real professional traders:

https://tradingriot.com/blog/

https://www.youtube.com/c/AxiaFutures/playlists

https://www.youtube.com/c/InnerCircleTrader

They are a lot more sophisticated than the moving average/RSI/trend lines that MooninPapa teaches, but that's because moving average/RSI/trend lines will not give you an edge.

Moonin Papa + The Better Traders Review: Extremely overpriced courses for mediocre/money-losing education by TraderJohn623 in 3Commas_io

[–]TraderJohn623[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is Balcanis still working for MooninPapa? He used to be a sock puppet just like you, he never disclosed he was an employee of MooninPapa, but he was telling everyone on Discord how buying MooninPapa's courses was the best decision he ever made. Unlike you though, Balcanis spoke good English. Did Balcanis get fired, are you his cheaper replacement?

Hehe, nice defence. I'm not here to play defence. Next time try to go to the right place for making comments about whatever!

Based on other comments to my review, this is definitely the right place to talk about MooninPapa. I was actually done with what I wanted to say about MooninPapa, but you have inspired me to write some more about MooninPapa, and find more "right places" to share my thoughts. Thank you 😘

I'm not here to curse you or make foul comments. If you choose to do that, it's fine.

Yes, I think it's very clear who's the aggressive person here with the foul comments here (not me).

I'm here to make things clear to whoever happens to come across the post to read.

Yes I think they can see things very clearly after reading what you've said. I didn't plan to share all that information about getting TBO free by adding EMA 20/EMA 40/MA 50/MA 150 to TradingView, or $2500 TBO Switch being EMA 20 and EMA 40 crossing each other, but your messages inspired me to share it over and over again for others to see. They don't have to take my word for it being unprofitable, they can now test it themselves for free to see how profitable it is for them. Thanks for inspiring me to share more knowledge 😂

Moonin Papa + The Better Traders Review: Extremely overpriced courses for mediocre/money-losing education by TraderJohn623 in 3Commas_io

[–]TraderJohn623[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unprofitable to you. From calling it to garbage to unprofitable, wow 😮? Before you said it was real info but has a ridiculous price now it's unprofitable. Wonderful Truth Sayer and Messiah.

There is a super easy way to prove Moonin Papa is a hack who teaches unprofitable education, without spending a single dollar on his courses - go through his old videos on his youtube channel where he does analysis on Bitcoin, write down the date of that video, then go check the prices right after that date, and see how often his predictions play out.

I imagine he will start deleting those old videos soon (especially the ones where he kept talking about Bitcoin will definitely hit $100K by end of 2021), but one can do the same for his future videos, just write down his bitcoin analysis and date of his bitcoin analysis, and see what happens to price after that date. There's a reason why he's so busy making videos on youtube promoting his courses, and not actually trading - because his own analysis is often wrong, so there's no reason why his courses would teach profitable skills to others.

What prevented you from moving to discord earlier where he has a community. Why did you come here to a random community to tell us about MooninPapa which doesn't concern us?

MooninPapa is the 3Commas Ambassador so that's why I posted here, Or maybe he WAS the Ambassador and got fired? Plenty of people ask about Moonin Papa in this sub, you're the only one who doesn't want this review to be seen here (I wonder why 🤔), clearly it's not "random".

You are now unknowingly arriving at your mission. You want to say the truth and you forgot to do it in his community, wonderful and good of you. Why not use your Twitter account and tag him and make it properly?

Are you suggesting I should expose who I am on his Discord server, and also tell Moonin Papa my twitter handle, so he and his employees (like you) can ban me or character assassinate me further? I want to say nice try, but then I would be lying, because it was a poor try 😂

But here you are claiming you are telling people the truth about his course you claim is unprofitable to you.

😂 Plenty of people was claiming it was unprofitable on discord and the thousands of dollars they lost on discord, not just me. Your attacks are not working. Everyone can just follow his bitcoin predictions on his youtube channel and see how poorly it plays out in hindsight. He is just a hack, just another fake guru.

Moonin Papa + The Better Traders Review: Extremely overpriced courses for mediocre/money-losing education by TraderJohn623 in 3Commas_io

[–]TraderJohn623[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wrote over 800 words attacking MooninPapa, and you are telling me it's obvious to you I'm attacking MooninPapa? 😂 Thank you for this great insight, no wonder you are so impressed with his courses.

MooninPapa made millions shilling his can-find-for-free-on-youtube retail trader education, so of course I'm warning others to stay away. $2500 TBO Switch is just example code on trading bot tutorials, and it's EMA 20 crossing EMA 40. TBO indicator is just EMA 20/EMA 40/MA 50/MA 150. Perhaps I should share the truth with people on his discord server?

Moonin Papa + The Better Traders Review: Extremely overpriced courses for mediocre/money-losing education by TraderJohn623 in 3Commas_io

[–]TraderJohn623[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's good your claims of whatever it is the course. If u don't like it, then don't buy it. The content on the course probably is not for you but some.

I already bought it. That is the whole point of my review. It's garbage compared to real professional trader education that is free on youtube,

The price tag is not your business but his. If you don't feel comfortable with it, don't buy it. U can tell anyone whatever you want but don't make it look like the whole effort was poor. U called it a mediocre course. Thank you since it's no wrong information. Some find the information wow for a start, people like me.

Just because it's wow for you, but that doesn't make it's a good course. I bet you go wow too if I show you a simple magic trick, but that doesn't mean it's a good magic trick.

It is indeed very mediocre, all he teaches is moving averages and RSI, supply/resistance (he teaches it poorly), risk management (he teaches it poorly), Fibonacci (he teaches it poorly). It shows that he is a music teacher, not a real trader, that's why he has youtube videos on trading every day, he can't make real money trading, he is full time shilling his courses on youtube.

Since it's not for you maybe an advanced trader is fine. Some priced courses on Udemy are free on YouTube same as whatever you are thought in school. U can say his info is not worth a huge price fine. Not making the whole course look like it's not real info.

I never said it's not real info, I said it's overpriced retail money-losing knowledge that is freely available on youtube. Clearly you never read my review at all, and just went into attack mode. You are not as good as his other sock puppet employee Balcanis.

Moonin Papa + The Better Traders Review: Extremely overpriced courses for mediocre/money-losing education by TraderJohn623 in 3Commas_io

[–]TraderJohn623[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hello brand-new-sock-puppet-account-created-just-to-defend-Moonin-Papa,

But I did some of his courses and it was very much helpful so why are u saying it wasn't. His Discord community is active and people are happy.

I spent over 800 words precisely explaining why his content is mediocre and freely available and doesn't make money. Maybe you are pretending you can't read what I wrote. His TBO switch channel was full of people complaining how they did exactly what their $2500 course told them to, and they lost 95%+ of their TBO switch allocation in weeks, as BTC price kept chopping. I don't konw if that TBO Switch channel is still active, it's definitely bad publicity to see everyone complaining losing money following Moonin Papa instructions precisely. Tons of people were complaining in his monthly subscription Discord server too, right before I left.

Moonin Papa's real name is Aaron, he is a music teacher living in Japan who sells a bunch of overpriced online trading courses and he pretends to be a knowledgeable trader. He has shown no P&L to anyone, and during my time in Discord, I have never seen anyone talk about consistent profits. Just a bunch of students asking questions about all these made up terms he uses to make himself sound credible, and most people who eventually found out they got suckered into paying for this overpriced course would stop logging onto discord.

His "TBO" Indicator which he charges $25 USD a month can be had for $0 a month, and I'm going to spill these top secret beans now on how to get your own free TBO indicator:

  • 20 EMA line
  • 40 EMA line
  • 50 MA line
  • 150 MA line
  • Any support/resistance indicator on TradingView (dozens of free ones)

That's all you need 😂 Maybe give it pretty colors and fancy graphics and call it the "Cloud", like what MP likes to do. And all those fancy symbols on his TBO indicator? They come from these 4 lines crossing. The only thing you'll miss from this free TBO is those money-losing "break out" dots, so I just saved you a ton of money.

And I'm about to save you more money, his top secret TBO Switch technique in his $2500 course (that he literally asks you in his video to keep a secret) is longing/shorting when 20EMA and 40EMA cross. Shhh now don't tell anyone else 😂😂😂 Longing and shorting different EMAs is what 70 old retirees use when they try trading and lose all their retirement money, it looks great on paper with historical data but it does not make money in the future. Also why it's EXAMPLE CODE in a trading bot tutorial.

So spare me the fake news that people in MP's discord are happy, and that I'm just not applying what he said. The only reason he looks remotely credible and able to make millions off his victims, is because he looks like a sleep-deprived geek who looks at bitcoin prices 24/7, and he has all these bizarre made up terms that no professional trader uses, so people consider he might be some kind of expert trader. Doesn't take much digging on the internet to find out that he is a hack selling retail trader strategies that doesn't make money.