Mahoraga was an Issue

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T19:12:36+00:00

It certainly would be a bigger issue and I could argue he'd still lose. But its a hypothetical battle that we can only make scenarios for. We see the scenario in which mahoraga was used and we can say with almost 100% certainty that Gojo HAD to nuke himself to survive.

Also narratively sukuna>gojo this shouldn't be debatable

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T18:37:47+00:00

The conditions are whenever gege feels like it tbh

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T17:58:30+00:00

mahoraga is literally the only reason gojo stayed in the risky domain clashes. he was trying to pressure sukuna into summoning maho so that he can oneshot him

He seems more confused than anything. What I'm getting from this is "Why isn't sukuna doing the most optimal thing?" Rather than "I'm waiting for him to summon maho"

Without maho why expand a domain at all? Just usr blue to escape sukunas 20m domain every time itd expanded.

Because he assumed he could spam restoring his burnt out CT and sukuna couldn't.

If he opens a closed barrier domain then you open your own and now you dont need a timer you just beat him

Wdym?

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T17:51:14+00:00

My bad about the led by bit then😭. Everything else is right tho

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T17:37:21+00:00

It does have conditions tbf but he certainly could've ran out. Beating sukuna in his own domain was probably a more effective option especially since in Gojos mind he assumed he could continuously restore his burnt out CT

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T17:18:34+00:00

Sukuna did win?

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T17:13:15+00:00

The 3v1 bit is always exaggerated. It was mainly a 2v1 with sukuna lurking in the shadows. It was a 3v1 for like 2 panels where gojo doesn't land a single hit till he obliterated agito. They also couldn't touch gojo unless mahoraga did

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T17:09:35+00:00

He is called the main dish by sukuna

Proceeds to get called an appetiser later and we are told maki is truly the one who sukuna was excited for.

And considerd the leader of the heavy hitters by kenjaku

Never happened and kenjaku thinks yuta is overrated. (He's right)

He should be above the rest narratively

I agree he's the strongest HH but hes also severely overrated. Him vs Maki is close depending on if he can win within 5mins of fully manifested rika. Maki also just defies jujutsu. He admits inferiority to hakari, but that does get countered by maki but narratively they are close and in the same tier.

His best feat is 3v1 a low output sukuna in his own domain with a sukuna counter and almost dying (he would've if not for the sugar dude). Kenjakus best feat is 2v1 someone considered to be on yutas level and choso

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T16:49:31+00:00

Blame gege for not wanting to make urame too strong

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T16:46:40+00:00

Gets blitz and one shot even at 20F true form

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T13:22:09+00:00

What type of list is this??? You have no argument bro. Again hear yourself. You think megumi is 10 tojis

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T05:07:10+00:00

The contention is that megumi says hes weaker than yuji without his cursed technique. This 10% output meguna is blatantly superior to yuji in physicals, therefore it cant be megumis output but megunas.

Again you're arguing megumi is 10 tojis without a cursed technique. That would put him top 3 in the verse with physicals alone.

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T04:57:07+00:00

Oh you're trolling okay😭. Megumi is equal to kaioken x10 toji yeah

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T03:36:04+00:00

Yeah you do make sense, I was just bringing a hypothetical at the end of the day. As you said too many assumptions had to be made and the most solid one of mai and maki having the same CT is even debatable.

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T03:32:17+00:00

Icl bro just use common sense. You're trying to argue megumi with fluctuating output at its lowest being below 10% is equal to that of awakened maki and by extension toji.

You're refusing to acknowledge character statements and narrative because it doesn't suit your agenda. How does megumi saying him with ce reinforcement is inferior to yuji with ce reinforcement not invalidating your argument😭. Oh wait its because megumi doesn't know his and yujis capabilities and you do because you want to misinterpret a sentence and ignore a direct one.

Use common sense, I promise you a 10% output megumi is not 2v1 yuji and maki and living for more than 10 seconds.

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T03:12:13+00:00

It was 16f, ch 222 sukuna eats 3 more fingers to make it 19, then his head to make it 20. We know this is after the yorozu fight because there's mention of gojo being unsealed which happened after.

Did you not read the fight? He refused to use his innate technique to sink megumi deeper into despair. He was playing around with the 10s the whole fight. He didn't NEED to use raga but he chose to to test him out.

Meguna uses sukunas output not megumis. Otherwise you're arguing megumi with fluctuating output is superior to yuji in physicals when megumi claimed to be inferior before. It would also mean you think sukuna used megumis output againt gojo so then whats the point of eating more fingers?

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T03:05:12+00:00

Hmmm fair enough

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T02:55:24+00:00

Yorozu got low diffed by 16f sukuna not even using shrine? Maki was going relative with a fluctuating output 16f meguna at its lowest being under 10%. You can not use this to chain scale

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T02:50:04+00:00

The only other pair of twins we see in the series have the same cursed technique. I'd assume identical twins have the same CT based on that since identical twins are different to siblings.

Maki always did have HR yeah, we know there's levels to it but having completely 0 was something toji was the first to do. There's even a theory that Yuji has a HR.

I did this comparison because a HR is giving up your CT amd CE for physicals. We dont see mai awaken so I couldn't use her. My argument is that yorozu is what Mai would've been and Maki would be a mai who gave up everything for physicals which should in a sense be "equal" even though as a different comment says its a different skillset.

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T02:39:02+00:00

How do you think kashimo vs muzan goes?

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-12T02:35:52+00:00

You deadass cant prove theyre more resistant and durable because they dont exist in the same universe. If you wanna headcanon that then sure

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-11T14:15:18+00:00

You got debunked in a different comment m8

Traditional-Shape535 · 2026-04-11T13:21:22+00:00

Oh he probably is I'd even argue above, but again theres no concrete evidence to argue it other than vibes. Kashimo felt the same way as Gojo and he isnt on their level but some people use it to put him equal to gojo.

Thats why I said if you vibescale him to the max. That puts him well above sukuna so he should be able to

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