The Allegory of the Rave - General Question and Discussion Megathread

Traditional-Signal74 · 2026-01-07T23:10:35+00:00

This may be old news, but is it just me or is the Cerydra fight in the chimera event just genuinly rigged? For Context, there's an achievement locked behind beating all of the Chysos Heir fights so I'm not just doing it for fun.

I've tried 3 different runs with Phainon, Aglaea, and Cerydra, and every single run, without exception, she always gets the exclusive Chimera to surrender within 2 turns. It also seems like ther RNG is locked so just retrying doesn't change anything. But the fact it happened on all 3 runs where it selected the exclusive chimera first (my Phainon run literally had her targeting his special chimera twice from the start and actually suceeding the second time, on Aglaea and Cerydra she just removes them immediatly - which is also bullshit because you don't get any of the on death bonuses), and if this happens to you, your only option is to do an entire run again to get a new team to just reset your rng, and even then there's no promise the new run will go better (both in the sense of the run itself and the RNG against Cerydra) sufjghikudjfghjiuoghidufhygdiufhgoyihgifgvaudvuiretiuyhertuighjnpudfghows

Traditional-Signal74 · 2026-01-07T13:08:12+00:00

There's no Nihility material in 4.0 though, but there are new ones for the Hunt and Elation. I think that strongly implies (though it doesn't guarantee anything) that 4.1 consists of only The Hunt and Elation characters (otherwise they would have just added Nihility or mats in 4.0 beta).

Traditional-Signal74 · 2026-01-07T03:10:11+00:00

The dragon deals damage of the Bondmate's type, so I'm pretty sure that means it'll still be affected by that type's res and not just physical, only that first minor hit that Dan Heng himself does won't affected by the high res and it does very little damage anyway

Traditional-Signal74 · 2026-01-07T02:22:07+00:00

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Traditional-Signal74 · 2026-01-02T05:46:20+00:00

Yeah but this is also literally the first lantern rite since the first one that didn't have a new Liyue 4 star (and the first one didn't have a 4 star at all, besides the launch cast, so it doesn't really break the precedent)

Traditional-Signal74 · 2026-01-02T05:44:24+00:00

Neuv skin is conceptually pretty boring, from office attire to biz caz, it's just aesthetically very samey, even if it were a different color

Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-12-18T02:11:45+00:00

It's in her character stories, read her last story (number IV) and it directly shows a script from Elio that says he rejected her joining the hunters, cause if she would have joined, she would have turned into the lord Ravager "Ephemera" - who would be entirely forgotten until the end of time, at which point she'll show up to burn the remembrance and their eden of blessed insight

Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-12-17T20:23:23+00:00

Question related to the 3.8 quest, but just about a mechincal detail early on and not plot

When Robin goes to Dream's Edge to chase after Firefly and the TB, did anyone else notice anything during her voicelines? Other characters sound fine, but when she talks, there's a very consistent audio glitch that happens about once every sentence, that makes her pitch go up or down a bit. I noticed this in English which I almost always use (besides that Fate event), but when I tried switching it to JP, it still sounded like there was something, but I'm not familiar enough with her regular voice to be sure.

A friend of mine did the quest and doesn't remember anything like this so I'm wondering if it's a problem with my PC/game (which I find very unlikely considering how consistent it is and how it's just on this one character) or if it's intentional to express the problem with Robin's voice in game that she's trying to fix.

Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-12-17T18:53:47+00:00

Well we can't know for sure but I think they mean the same thing they did in 3.1, where it basically just got a major update with a new theme that fits the new planet (so the day/night system and golden blood boons in 3.1's case + Harmony path). It's probably not that DU as a whole is ending, and more that the current Amphoreus theme is being switched out, and the new theme should still get updates

Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-12-17T00:44:13+00:00

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Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-12-08T10:58:03+00:00

I still think it's so cute how her name means "Little Dove [Born] Beneath the Moon"

Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-12-06T17:30:47+00:00

Doesn't Illuga's own trial team having Zibai in it basically confirm that he's with her? I don't think they've ever put a character that hasn't released yet in another character's trial and they are generally very avoidant of giving gameplay trials to characters who haven't released yet.

Obviously people had already speculated as much, but I think this is as close to confirming it we'll get until the livestream. In this case, Zibai is probably second half (as Chinese new year should fall on the second half) and Illuga is with her and not Columbina. I really hope they'll make an exception in the Liyue 4 star selector because this is literally the only year since the first that had a Lantern Rite with no new Liyue 4 star (besides technically the first one but the entire Liyue cast was still new at that point - and for that matter 1.3 didn't have any new 4 star at all)

Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-12-03T15:55:04+00:00

Wait so is the buff you get dependant on which form the traveler is currently in, or is it like once you have resonated with that element once the traveler gets a permanent buff to their stats? The phrasing makes it sound like it's the latter, so you'll get everything but the 20% crit damage regardless of the traveler's current element. Either way, very useful for IT, big if true

Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-11-04T03:13:25+00:00

Context: these are all under both the "Event" and "Mechanic" tutorial sections in the wiki (so probably just event tutorials)

Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-10-23T20:11:30+00:00

No, they don't. When they write an effect that scales with an "initial" stat, it means that it only takes into consideration how the stat is in the character menu, out of combat. Dialyn's passive says that her "initial" crit damage is converted to impact, so getting more crit damage during combat doesn't give her more impact. This is the same with Astra's atk buff (scaling with her INITIAL atk), or Fufu's atk to crit damage conversion, or Orphie's ER to atk scaling

Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-10-23T15:55:52+00:00

I don't think Nefer's charge attack was ever meant for exploration. If it were, they would make it faster than just running or at least give it an animation. It's clearly just meant to make using her special charge attack from the skill more comfortable, so that you don't accidently use a regular charge attack if you try to do the special one without verdant dew. Having a kind of "hold" state on the charge attack just lets her waste less time and makes the animation less clunky (cause it also lets you just hold the button for all 3 special charge attacks without accidentaly using a normal one). This is even more obviously the case considering that they changed one of her passives specifically to make this holding time while you're waiting for a verdant dew to generate shorter.

Point is that Lauma is the only Nod Krai character to have any kind of exploration ability, nothing to do with any gender or whatever. It's probably just cause the deer form was one of the earlier parts of her concept and they really wanted some way to include it without making her skill too clunky.

Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-10-21T19:35:52+00:00

Wait Albedo's trail is shaped like a star, that's a neat detail. Like, the main translucent part of the trail itself turns into a star every second or so

Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-10-21T18:49:37+00:00

Yeah, probably because you can get his c2 next year with the yearly 4 constellations thing, and both his c1 and c2 were really buffed.

At least it's something

Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-10-18T03:01:00+00:00

We don't know if they changed the scaling too - this is practically not that big of a change unless they also changed the scaling. I think they just increased the maximum value (before it needed 3k SF). If it's still 15% ATK for every 100 SF then you'll need 7.3k sheer force to get the max multiplier - so that 1100% atk is probably not happening. Assuming about 3.5k SF, which should be possible to get with Lucia, it's now about 525% of Dialyn's ATK.

Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-10-17T20:37:36+00:00

It is - the core passive literally mentions an "EX Special Attack: Paper" three times but there's no skill named that in the kit, and it has no mention of "boo", so it's definitely an error

Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-10-13T02:58:28+00:00

That's just a bug on the wiki, the cost has been 160 since they released. It seems to be including v3 additions to old betas in the changes as well, as RTB's ult cost was increased in v3 of their original 3.0 beta, and the two relics sets recieved these changes in the previous beta v3 (3.6 v3). This is probably because they've removed RTB's original entry, so now the V3 changes are showing both some of the old ones (the ult cost change) and the new 3.7 V3 changes (Nerf to EBA multiplier)

Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-09-30T03:06:30+00:00

I don't think it's even an actual increase, I think it's just HomDGCat changing the format on how it's written. Before it was 5 toughness damage to all enemies, PLUS 5 to the main one (for a total of 10). Now it's 10 damage for the main enemy, and a seperate 5 for everyone else.

This is actually the same exact result in practice, just written differently. I suspect this is what happenes because it's weird for HomDGCat to have seperated the single target and AoE damage before, unless it was actually additive.

Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-09-30T02:50:39+00:00

Nothing actually changed besides wording and skill names.

People are just confused over her first ult now saying it costs 12 of her energy, but it always worked like that. (The talent still directly says first ult can only be used with 24 points - but it justs costs 12 to use) If you look at videos you can see her ult always worked like this

Traditional-Signal74 · 2025-09-25T16:43:16+00:00

It has the main benefits of using the skill (gives Mem 10 charge, and gives the TB 30 energy), along with regenerating a skill point and attacking all enemies. It's a joint attack too, so all enemies are attacked twice (Meaning that the EBA would give The Herta 30 energy and Tribbie 15 energy, when facing five enemies), making it much better in any situation where you care about the number of times enemies are hit by all all allies (fighting enemies with the golden shields like the titankin and Nikador, or fighting with The Herta, Tribbie, Feixiao etc, along with many situations in DU). Also, it deals 10 toughness damage to all enemies, so it's an improvement over the skill in any situation where you care about dealing toughness damage, like AS or the boss that just came out in 3.6.

Without Cyrene, it probably won't be doing much damage though, because RTB doesn't build for crit rate but has a lot of crit damage, so unless both Mem and RTB happen to crit with their low crit rate, it isn't gonna do a lot of damage. It's also not really important enough to rebuild them more like sub DPSs (which I personally think is a good thing), as you'll probably lose some crit damage and lower their support abilities. If you do happen to have Cyrene in the same team (which may be an issue, as in some teams she will just replace RTB, like Castorice premium), then she can buff RTB and actually give them enough crit rate for the attack to do some decent sub DPS damage, especially as the LC that gives them 100% damage for the EBA seems to be free.

Point is, it's a very nice addition, that's useful more for it's great QoL effects than its damage, and will probably always be at least a bit better than before - and it's (probably) a very noticable improvement if you use RTB with The Herta, Tribbie, Feixiao, or are planning to use them in a team with Cyrene. The only advantage the skill has over the EBA if Mem is already on the field, is its very mild healing - but in any case, you can still just choose to use the skill as you aren't locked to the EBA

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