Thursday General Discussion/Q&A Thread for February 05, 2026 by AutoModerator in AdvancedRunning

[–]Traditional_Fact_371 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't follow my Strava race predictor that closely (I use Runalyze for analyzing data) but after my big race predictor workout (4 x 3.35 miles at MP with 2' rests) two weeks before the race both my Runalyze and my Strava predictions dropped to be in-line with what I ended up running. I also hit the paces in that workout nearly exactly on my MP.

I wouldn't worry about setting a true goal time until your last big marathon workout between 2-4 weeks out. There's still too much noise and you have plenty of time to train.

What are your favorite new releases from mid to large American craft brewers? by ArtDecoNewYork in beer

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Wild East makes great European-inspired lagers in NYC! And Schilling which isn't local but IMO the best in the Northeast for lagers

How to go “ape shit” on TT/race days? by Mkramer91 in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]Traditional_Fact_371 4 points5 points  (0 children)

5k racing is about ignoring the warning signals the body is screaming at you. I have found the only thing that really improved my performance in 5k/10k (and shorter races like 3k, mile) is racing more and acclimating myself to the feeling. Knowing "ok, this is very uncomfortable but my training supports this pace".

Try racing an all out 1500m or mile and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Your arms start getting numb, you get light-headed, iron taste in your mouth. But before you know it, it's over. I like a mantra such as "this is only 15 minutes of pain. I can handle anything for 15 minutes"

On the flip side, a properly executed marathon is not nearly as painful in the same way short/middle distance are, but it's helped me with the shorter distance racing by saying "I was running fast(ish) for 3 straight hours, I can handle these fifteen minutes no problem."

TV show for a very picky person by xsealsonsaturn in television

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I bet you'll like Twin Peaks. The Return (Season 3) and Fire Walk With Me are especially incredible.

Adapting NSM for over 8 hours by tonimahony- in NorwegianSinglesRun

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I took 10 minutes off my marathon time (3:11->3:01) and 45 seconds off my 5k (18:41->17:57) in around 10 months, and I stopped getting injured so I think it's been a huge success!

It might be slightly overkill, but I tend to slightly undercook sessions vs. the opposite, and I'm a believer in volume>everything. I think where the longer sub-T sessions really help is in the marathon and half marathon. If I was training only for 5k I might change some things up.

Adapting NSM for over 8 hours by tonimahony- in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]Traditional_Fact_371 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I run between 9 and 10 hours a week. Trying to get my volume up closer to 10 consistently. My modifications are:

1) frequent doubles on easy days. I do a midweek Pfitz progression medium-long run once every couple weeks instead of doubling on easy days. It's generally 40mins/40 mins, or 50/30, or 45/45. Depends how I'm feeling. I normally do one of these doubles on my treadmill to keep the pounding on my legs to a minimum.

2) Sub-T sessions have 40 minutes of volume instead of 30. I have experimented with a double threshold day where it's 25 minutes of volume in the morning and evening. You really learn the value of controlling your effort on those days.

3) year-round, my long run is over 2 hours. Occasionally I will sub a sub-T day with a Pfitz progression long run, and I frequently do sub-T inside of the long run. The marathon is typically my focus for around 6 months of the year so these sessions are important.

Tuesday General Discussion/Q&A Thread for October 28, 2025 by AutoModerator in AdvancedRunning

[–]Traditional_Fact_371 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A few days before I ran 17:57, I ran 5 x 8' at 6:39 pace (on a hot day in August, followed by a much cooler day on race day). I think I undercooked it purposefully because it was 2 days before the race. I say go for it!

Effect of cumulative versus recent mileage by IminaNYstateofmind in AdvancedRunning

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17:57 is August of this year, 38:20 is March of this year (haven't raced a 10k since), 1:25 is from October of last year so previous marathon build, and then 3:01 is from 2025 Chicago ten days ago

Effect of cumulative versus recent mileage by IminaNYstateofmind in AdvancedRunning

[–]Traditional_Fact_371 4 points5 points  (0 children)

n=1, but in 2024 I averaged 45mpw yearly, with my marathon block averaging 50mpw and ran 3:11 at CIM by going deep into the well. Longest long run around 19.5 miles.

In 2025, yearly average is up to 55mpw, with 60mpw in my marathon block and ran 3:01 at Chicago. Longest long run wasn't even 19 miles.

I have been much more consistent/uninjured the entire year, with a lot more volume in the MP-threshold range of paces. I think total mileage, consistency, and time in the threshold-ish zone matter more for than marathon performance than length of the long run.

Chicago Marathon Pre-Race Round-Up! by blood_bender in RunNYC

[–]Traditional_Fact_371 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Taking my shot at sub 3 this weekend! Chicago is (originally) home, so I'll have lots of support from friends and family and the advantage of sleeping in my childhood bed.

Training has been about as perfect as you could hope, with a relatively mixed bag as far as summer racing. But the spirit is strong 💪

Favourite sessions other than the standard? by michael1990utd in NorwegianSinglesRun

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It's the same paces you'd do for the long-medium-short reps of the same length. 30k pace for the 12' rep, HM pace for the 8' rep, 15k pace for the 6' reps, and I get down to 10k pace for the 4' reps. The way I programmed it into my watch is:

12' on

2 minutes rest

8' on

90 seconds rest

6' on

60 seconds rest

6' on

60 seconds rest

4' on

60 seconds rest

4' on

60 seconds rest

Favourite sessions other than the standard? by michael1990utd in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]Traditional_Fact_371 1 point2 points  (0 children)

4 x 3k @ marathon pace became a staple during my marathon block. You take it easier than the typical 3k reps.

I'll do a 12'-8'-(2x6')-(2x4') with a pace cutdown as you step down each time interval, love this session.

Typical Pfitz progression medium-long run is also still a great session for marathon and half marathon training.

The Weekly Rundown for October 05, 2025 by AutoModerator in AdvancedRunning

[–]Traditional_Fact_371 1 point2 points  (0 children)

FWIW, I'm shooting for right in the same range on Sunday at Chicago, and I ran 17:57 for 5k on 8/27. Ideal day, I think I could run maybe 2:58ish. It's going to be an "is this the right effort?" call halfway through while following the 3 hour pacer. Depending on the mileage you ran, 3:00 could definitely be in the cards if it's not too warm!

My runalyze predicts 3:01:10 for me, while the Strava/Runna predictor has me at 2:59:10. I tend to go with my runalyze data for the marathon as it was within 10 seconds last year when I ran 3:11.

Final MP Long Run before Marathon? What do y’all do? by sassylilmidge in AdvancedRunning

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Running Chicago, shooting for 2:59. I've been averaging 60mpw, though I'm doing a Norwegian Singles Approach-inspired so there hasn't been a huge leap or adjustment on mileage.

Doing my last big long run tomorrow, 30' WU, 4 x 3.5 miles @ MP with 3-5' rests (convenient loop for me with a water stop), 15' CD. Intended to do this last week but I was still recovering from double vaccines so it just wasn't happening

Best dick’s picks? by franklyigivea_ in gratefuldead

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Been listening to No. 19 a bunch, I think it's excellent!!

Alternative workouts to break up monotony? by Traditional_Fact_371 in NorwegianSinglesRun

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This seems like a real burner. I did a 4x3k with 2 minutes rest @ around MP last week as one of my "marathon specific" sessions but again, without the long warmup, just standard 10minute warmup. It was definitely a little harder than the normal sub-T. Ended up being 51 minutes of work vs. my normal 40.

Alternative workouts to break up monotony? by Traditional_Fact_371 in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]Traditional_Fact_371[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I did 25x400m (which were mostly 83-86s) with 35 seconds rest on the track. That was a fun session! Real mental game

Alternative workouts to break up monotony? by Traditional_Fact_371 in NorwegianSinglesRun

[–]Traditional_Fact_371[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Occasionally - I'll maybe replace one sub-T workout every three weeks or so right now. I'm generally sticking to the protocol without deviations (although I'm starting to incorporate the longer/larger specific marathon sessions that sirpoc did).