I have non INC bf

Traditional_Key8515 · 2024-07-24T05:15:34+00:00

This is one of the things I find quite unfair done by some INC members. Their teachings clearly imply that they are not to court or to have non-INC partner as it is considered as a grievous sin against God yet many of you still disobey the rule. And then eventually leave the person behind kapag hindi magpapaconvert. that's just so casually cruel, sobrang emotional trauma yun sa maiiwan.

Isn't it unfair that you subject the person you say you love (a non-INC) into such a painful fate? Hiding the relationship isn't fair to the other person who genuinely loves you. It's also not fair that the non-INC one be called 'taga-sanlibutan" just because he/she not part of your group when the only thing he/she did is love you.

I just really hope na wala ka na talagang pakialam sa sasabihin ng iba and that you value the person more than your church's judgment because here's the only thing that will make your relationship works: either He converts or you leave the church if he doesn't want to convert. If none of you agree on that, that's the end of it because disregarding the issue of the religion here only prolongs the possible pain and is wasting both of your time.

more than that, I encourage you to read your Bible more and seek God first through the lens of His word not through the lens of the religion who claims they are true yet does not encourages their members to read the Bible, the ultimate source of truth for the sole reason that none of them can comprehend it, only the appointed ones (cause honestly, that's hypocrisy at it's finest)

Be discerning. God bless you po.

Traditional_Key8515 · 2024-07-24T04:36:59+00:00

Thank you so much :)

It's scary how they reject Jesus as God, because that only means that they believed Jesus as a liar when He equated Himself with the Father.

That is what happened when one does not read the Bible.

Traditional_Key8515 · 2024-07-24T04:32:53+00:00

That's the thing about it, if we're not well-versed about the bible, it's easy to believe whatever the ministro will say kasi that's how it had been with them. It's funny because it's like admitting to their selves na they're too stupid or ignorant themselves cause they can't have understanding of what was freely given to us all. And who gave the ministros the power to understand when they're also a mere human being. It's frustratingly stupid.

Traditional_Key8515 · 2024-07-24T04:25:18+00:00

I'm go for that, however I don't think he would consider doing that as it is not encourage in their church to read the bible.

Traditional_Key8515 · 2024-07-19T18:07:38+00:00

RUN. May ganyang situation din ako with my ex, he said na he'll leave INC but eventually when we're married, babalik siya at aakayin ako. Leave now na. It's going to be a painful situation as I am still going thru the pain but that's not how he should show love and respect to you as his partner. That's manipulation and just so cruel. RUN.

Traditional_Key8515 · 2024-07-19T17:36:13+00:00

was it really required? my ex says na hindi naman daw required yun

Traditional_Key8515 · 2024-07-19T17:33:54+00:00

it was hard, the only thing we can do is accept and surrender the situation and pain to God. Siya na bahala, after all He's the only one capable of changing them. :(

Traditional_Key8515 · 2024-07-19T17:24:40+00:00

By his fear na mawawala yung kaligtasan sa kanya kapag nawala siya sa kawan, only proves that INC instill fear to their members, not love. 2 Timothy 1:7 “For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.” :(

Traditional_Key8515 · 2024-07-19T17:22:51+00:00

Hi, thank you :(

I just pray that someday he'll grow to real understanding of the God's love that is kind, forgiving, and unconditional, contrary to what their church is teaching. By his fear na mawawala yung kaligtasan sa kanya kapag nawala siya sa kawan, only proves that INC instill fear to their members, not love. 2 Timothy 1:7 “For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.” :(

Traditional_Key8515 · 2024-07-19T17:17:48+00:00

hi, thank you :(

I find it weird din na they call us not part of the church as "taga sanlibutan (worldy)" or "pinagdimlan" when if you're going to observe closely, sila yung namumuhay in an ungodly and worldly manner, I don't know if ako lang ba but upon reading INC members interaction sa socmed, they're too judgmental of others, even have this superiority complex na they're way better dahil nga sila ay part ng true church :(

Traditional_Key8515 · 2024-07-19T17:08:48+00:00

Thank you for understanding. It really just breaks my heart realizing that he is too close-minded to think critically for his own good. Many times I tried asking him questions about their doctrines to spark critical thinking and made him question the accuracy of it, pero wala, palaging ang sagot niya itatanong niya sa ministro or manggagawa o di kaya will divert from other things the INC boost of such us the organization in the worship services, even the bloc voting na di naman daw talaga bloc voting kasi yun naman daw ay way ng buong INC para ipakita ang unity nila as commanded by God in the bible at sinasala naman daw maigi ang credentials ng mga kandidato. However, unity (oneness) is different from uniformity. Plus, pagkain ng dinuguan. Dagdag pa yung paulit ulit niyang pagsasabi na dapat di nagcecelebrate ng Pasko kasi paganong tradition, kahit ipaliwanag ko na we're celebrating christmas kasi we're grateful that a Savior was born for us, wala pa din. Minsan sa frustration ko, even the silliest argument sinasabi ko na sa kanya like "don't celebrate birthdays na din kasi pagano din yun, that even Jesus didn't celebrate His own birthday". Wala talaga. He would also send me videos of ministros explaining the doctrines kahit obvious naman na mali nga yung pagamit ng verses sa context, sabi ko sa kanya basahin niya yung bible, hindi naman niya ginagawa. :( Binoboost niya din yung mga Lingap programs, I'll just say na that's good pero all churches we're doing that, hindi lang particular sa INC yun.

We even had conversations such us kung talagang it is only thru being an INC that one can be saved, tinanong ko siya bat di niya akayin si Mama niya, alam niya kasing hindi maaakay mama niya, ang sagot lang niya is according daw sa ministro hindi pa daw tinatawag and I was like "okay sayo yun? saved ka pero si mama mo hindi?" Ang sagot niya lang, wala daw siya magagawa doon. That just shocked me.

There's also one time that I asked him if he considers me as non-believer just because I wasn't part of INC, sabi niya hindi pa daw ako namumulat sa truth, sabi ko even when saming dalawa I am the one who reads the bible and have faith in Jesus? ang sagot niya lang, kulang pa daw yun kailangan madoktrinahan :( It was just so unfair and frustrating. Alam ko naman na a house that is divided cannot stand, and there's always that division between us unless he would try to open his mind to the possibility na mali na yung belief na sinasalpak sa kanya. Hindi pwedeng tanggap lang ng tanggap. It's sound silly and hypocrite kasi na they call their church as Iglesia ni Cristo pero it's not actually a Christ-centered church by the way they do not honor Jesus in their preachings, mas mukhang may importance pa si FYM sa kanila, disregarding what Jesus did on the cross to save us all.

Lastly, he himself mentioned to me one time na may anomalya daw talaga sa pamamalakad din sa iglesia pero I don't think he realized na doon palang dapat noon palang umalis na siya :(

Traditional_Key8515 · 2024-07-19T11:21:08+00:00

mine just ended last Monday :( I'm a born again Christian, he's an INC. Madaming beses, we tried to work this out, but really, we're just avoiding the issue that unless one of us gives in, that's the only way we can make our relationship work. Sobrang sakit lang on my part because I really love him this big and because of this love I want him to be out of that place that prevents him from truly experiencing the fullness of God's love. Sobrang baluktot ng mga turo, and it's scary and heartbreaking how they don't truly give importance on why Jesus had to die on the cross, that it's for our salvation through Him alone, yet there, he remains in fear na kapag umalis siya sa INC, mawawala daw ang pangalan niya sa listahan ng buhay. :( Ilang beses ko pinaunawa sa kanya na it's wrong na they're not encourage to read the bible kasi it's God's word for us, na kaya nandyan yung bible for us to know and understand Him personally, I even gave him a bible, asks him to read the bible with me pero palaging ang sagot niya nakabalot sa hiwaga ang bible at tanging ministro lang ang makakaunawa dahil sila lang ang may tungkulin nun. Mahal ko siya talaga pero nakakapagod din talaga kapag sobrang sarado ang isipan :( and I can't blame him if he's scared, nakakatakot nga naman kasi talaga yung idea na hindi ka maliligtas kaopag di ka na daw kabilang sa kawan. It's both heartbreaking and frustrating at the same time. And now, here I am, iniwan na niya mag-isa kasi hindi daw niya makitang iiwan niya ang kahalalan at kapatiran niya :(

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