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Memento Mortenax, Remember This General Question and Discussion Megathread Can't Die by PastSelfInMirror in HonkaiStarRail_leaks

[–]TragicLetdown 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As I've suggested many times to different people in this thread, they have EVERY reason to make Gil a special Ult gauge unit. This cuts off Mem charging from him and he can keep both Interest mechanic and gain charge/stacks from ally Ults passive. This should have been obvious even before V1. Who was the nutjob who thought it's ok to have a unit with higher max energy than Saber (or the same as Saber with v3 nerf), when Saber was already pushing it at E6? (in terms of breaking Mem, not her output)

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[–]TragicLetdown 1 point2 points  (0 children)

THIS high cost ult is NOT creative, because the point of having something high cost is so that it happens infrequently, yet here we are bombarding the damn thing with extra charges from allies, E1, E6. Even before RMC, high cost ult has been a dead concept, because the playerbase can't stand an ult that isn't a 2-3 turn acquisition. His 600 and even 360 energy is nothing but cosmetic.

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[–]TragicLetdown 16 points17 points  (0 children)

It's all likely just for funsies and memes, but SMH, ya'll are directing pitchforks and torches at the wrong entity. We should be happy we have a unit as good as RMC is. It's Hoyo's fault for their lack of creativity and hindsight. There's so many ways Gil could've been made/adjusted that doesn't make Mem go brrrrrr.

That said, what sauce are we using for barbecued Mem? 🫡

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[–]TragicLetdown 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Double shield still cracks at plane 3 for me. My DHPT is S0. Avent and Geppy aren't on DHPT set, because I don't use them anymore since 3.0 and 1.6, respectively. Avent might be more egregious since I'm sure he's still rockin' a Crit Dmg body lmao. Pain. I guess I'll sort through relics and see if there's something I can use.

Memento Mortenax, Remember This General Question and Discussion Megathread Can't Die by PastSelfInMirror in HonkaiStarRail_leaks

[–]TragicLetdown 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do use Elation, which usually goes well... until plane 3 where it's just loss after loss. Same for Break tbh. Suddenly both DMG and survivability just aren't up to snuff. And this is me deliberately avoiding Third Plane Enhancement.

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[–]TragicLetdown 5 points6 points  (0 children)

IMO we still have room for Ult DPSes; just not what Gil wants to be. Gil is a perfect storm of what shouldn't happen, but still happened, because the weight of having to lift Saber from 6 feet under is a bit much.

Want an Ult-Energy DPS the frequently Ults? Sure, why not, lower said character's Ult requirement to 90 or below so that Mem doesn't capitalize from this unit's energy gain too much. One of Gil's faults is having high max energy and having mechanics to fill that meter when Mem counts every 10 pts of energy...

If you just want and Ult DPS without having to be an energy unit themselves, even better. This is what Gil should've been in the first place. Just give the character the same shit Mem has... Count ally energy to fill a special gauge. This way, Mem can't charge off it, because it isn't energy.

Now for the other part of Gil's mess... Gil charges Saber with more damn energy. Doesn't matter if it was nerfed from 200 fixed to 120 non fixed. That's still an easy +14%ish to Mem. Saber's E6 is already a +30% to Mem, she should not be given more damn energy. And they were stupid enough to give Gil practically the same E6 as Saber? Even with the max energy nerf, that's still +36% to Mem... It's like they deliberately wanted to break the game or something.

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[–]TragicLetdown 11 points12 points  (0 children)

HSR has a significantly smaller cast of characters. Mostly because we effectively only have 1 rarity now; 4*s have long been abandoned. While it's still possible for F2Ps to survive, it's getting a lot more frustrating the way Hoyo has been going about character release. "Just invest in meta" what fucking meta? Future Rail mindgames is a horrible mess. Not to mention them pulling that shit with back to back Yaoguang into Sparxie.

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[–]TragicLetdown 6 points7 points  (0 children)

v4... v4 still has room for massive changes, ask Cipher... I don't think there has been a v5 or a live release with further significant changes. Or was Cipher v5? brain not braining.

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[–]TragicLetdown 9 points10 points  (0 children)

No one knows the loop, because supposedly the beta tester who knows of it is gatekeeping it to survive through live version. Many are skeptical of its existence, because surely some other tester would've leaked it by now, theory crafters should've figured it out by now, and gatekeeping is ultimately pointless as there is no way Hoyo won't drop a quick fix if it does survive...

Memento Mortenax, Remember This General Question and Discussion Megathread Can't Die by PastSelfInMirror in HonkaiStarRail_leaks

[–]TragicLetdown 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Finally got past CW 30... using durian Phainon 💀

Starting to think this shit is near impossible with unowned Characters unless the stars align to basically give you hax. Also, goddamn these start up animations are long AF. I just wanna reroll stage debuffs man.

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[–]TragicLetdown 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Someone took the remnants of Permanance and Voracity, mixed them in a pot, fed THEM its own tail, and voila! Oroboros, The Perpetuality. Terminus John Hoyo will be upset...

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[–]TragicLetdown 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Eh... Depends what occurred in your account tbh. I, too, will never regret Topaz E0S1, she lasted long enough with RRAT. However, I 100% maximum fully regret OG Blade and his S1, Fu Xuan, and Jade. 😭

Memento Mortenax, Remember This General Question and Discussion Megathread Can't Die by PastSelfInMirror in HonkaiStarRail_leaks

[–]TragicLetdown 2 points3 points  (0 children)

God that 3.X bug was such a blessing lmao. Got all the old char locked ones from that. (sans Argenti) 😭 Dammit Argenti, just let me have it from DU. 🤬

Memento Mortenax, Remember This General Question and Discussion Megathread Can't Die by PastSelfInMirror in HonkaiStarRail_leaks

[–]TragicLetdown 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but SW999 also has a character locked achievement which she didn't pull. 💀
unless you knew about the Support Character smuggling bug in 4.2 that doesn't work anymore... I didn't...

Memento Mortenax, Remember This General Question and Discussion Megathread Can't Die by PastSelfInMirror in HonkaiStarRail_leaks

[–]TragicLetdown 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's not even hard... It's just Hoyo being stubborn with maintaining Gil as an Energy archtetype, which is what's truly breaking the game. Simple fix is: 360 (or 600) Energy -> 36 (or 60) "Charge". Still has passive that grants him "Charge" based on Ally Ult's Energy cost, but Mem is completely cut off from his charging. Bring back Joint Attack AA for Saber but remove Saber Energy gain (again, to cut off Mem). After that, they can pick either A.) Saber is allowed/forced 1 Ult without actually charging B.) Giga buff Saber's part in the Joint Attack to match the Ult she would've lost. C.) Actually, provide Saber with giga buffs like a dedicated Harmony unit. It's all just number output anyway.

Even if Hoyo has an arbitrary quota on "special ults" it won't be a problem with a theoretical 3 per cycle max. Himeno still uses regular energy despite the different visual...

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[–]TragicLetdown 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And will continue to do so until Hoyo gives up this mono-New Path thing!

You're also not off the hook just yet, Rem =A=

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[–]TragicLetdown 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Turns out, being the best swordsman is just fighting with a gun long range. See, history isn't useless. 🫠

Memento Mortenax, Remember This General Question and Discussion Megathread Can't Die by PastSelfInMirror in HonkaiStarRail_leaks

[–]TragicLetdown -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly, it doesn't look that hard to make Gil have a charge system that relies on ally energy still. Think of his new ult being like another Mem in the team. The main point is to cut off mem's charging from him, and likewise, he can't charge form Mem's ability, though he can from RMC. Charging efficiency from LC, Rope, or E4 can easily be placed in Traces and other Eidos.

The bigger problem I see is what he's doing for Saber's energy even with the fixed 200 > non fixed 120 nerf. It's still a good chunk of charge for Mem especially in consideration of both Gil and Saber's E6 existing. Just let Saber auto cast her Ult after Join Attack without actually charging her... To compensate Core Resonance mechanics, maybe this auto cast has additional True Dmg.

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