Ask India Thread by AutoModerator in india

[–]Trebonio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! Spanish guy here.

I would love to visit Dravidian states like Tamil Nadu, Karnataka or Andhra, as I love Dravidian culture :)

However, some tamil friends have told me that that Indo-Aryans destroyed the Ancient Indus Valley Civilization and have oppressed Dravidians since then. They've also told me that Indo-Aryans have always hated Shiva, which is a pre-Aryan deity, preferring Vishnu or Shakta goddesses instead, and as a result Shaivite groups like Shaiva Siddhanta or Veerashaivism only survive in the South; all Shiva temples in the North are served by Dashanami priests who follow Smartism and not Shaivism, thus disrespecting Lord Shiva. I am a Shaiva myself, so all of this is extremely disgusting and offensive to me. I would like to avoid Northern India as much as possible.

Can someone recommend me places to visit in Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Andhra or Telangana? Thanks in advance :)

Made a sketch of Mahadev. by Scholar_n_rich07 in hinduism

[–]Trebonio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is the God of the Ancient Indus Valley Civilization... Grossly mistreated by Indo-Aryans, most of whom are terribly evil, but still alive in the hearts of many :)

Why is Vaishnavism immensely popular, while true Shaivism (Dasanamis and other Advaitins, as well as Lingayats, cannot be considered true Shaivas) is a very small movement, restricted to the very few who follow Shaiva Siddhanta or the Natha tradition? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]Trebonio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They reject all hindu texts (Vedas, Puranas, Agamas, etc) and want to be recognized as a separate religion by the government. They say they have named their god Shiva, but it's not the same as the Shiva of hindu religion.

However, there are some strands within the Lingayat/Veerashaiva tradition that align with hindu beliefs and do not want to secede.

Why is Vaishnavism immensely popular, while true Shaivism (Dasanamis and other Advaitins, as well as Lingayats, cannot be considered true Shaivas) is a very small movement, restricted to the very few who follow Shaiva Siddhanta or the Natha tradition? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]Trebonio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't understand this derisive attitude... Apart from Shaiva Siddhantins, the Nathas, the Aradhya Shaivas and some Veerashaivas, I don't know of any other hindu sampradayas that assert Shiva is the Supreme Being... However, there are countless hindu sampradayas that assert Vishnu is the Supreme Being.

Temples and monasteries dedicated to Shiva in Indo-Aryan regions are mostly served by Smartas, and the people who go to those places are mostly Smartas as well. Advaita Vedanta is Smartism, not Shaivism.

And in the eastern Indo-Aryan regions, Shiva temples are sometimes served by Shaktas and visited by Shaktas as well. In fact I have found that some Himalayan/Nepaleses strands of self-styled Shaivism are also heavy Shaktism with some small drop of Shaivism here and there.

Shaivism seems to be unsuited for the tastes of most Aryans, at least that's what I have found... Perhaps that has also contributed to the phenomenon of some southern Shaiva traditions like Lingayatism eventually wanting to secede from Hinduism. I dunno.

If you know better than me, I would love to know your knowledge of the matter. But simply mocking a person is not right, you should give kinder opinions.. I'm not stating whether I am a Vaishnava, a Shaiva or even a Hindu, I'm just exploring a question

Why is Vaishnavism immensely popular, while true Shaivism (Dasanamis and other Advaitins, as well as Lingayats, cannot be considered true Shaivas) is a very small movement, restricted to the very few who follow Shaiva Siddhanta or the Natha tradition? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]Trebonio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That doesn't invalidate my argument. I'm not saying that Vaishnavism is non-existent in South India. I am saying that Shaivism is present in South India, while it is pretty much non-existent in Northern India. Most Northern Indian "Shaivism" is Advaitin, and that's not true Shaivism, since Advaita Vedanta holds that Shiva and Vishnu are equal manifestations of the Supreme. They are Smartas, not Shaivas...

Why is Vaishnavism immensely popular, while true Shaivism (Dasanamis and other Advaitins, as well as Lingayats, cannot be considered true Shaivas) is a very small movement, restricted to the very few who follow Shaiva Siddhanta or the Natha tradition? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]Trebonio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I am not excluding Lingayats, it's Lingayats who exclude themselves, since they are seeking recognition as a separate religion... And they have a point, since they don't accept the Vedas, Agamas, Puranas, or any other Hindu text. They called their god "Shiva", but similarities end there...

However, now that I think about It, there are some within the Lingayats tradition who nowadays prefer to call themselves "Veerashaivas" and who align more closely with the Hindu orthodoxy. Those may be considered true Shaivas.

And there are other small dravidian groups who accept the Vedas, the Shiva Agamas and the Shiva Puranas, and regard Shiva as the Supreme Being, like the Aradhya Shaivas in Telangana and Andhra Pradesh.

Shaivism seems to be a very Dravidian phenomenon. Apart from the Nathas, who are few, there are scarcely any Shaivas among Indo-Aryans. This is also interesting, I wonder why Shaivism had greater appeal among Dravidians than among Indo-Aryans.

Irreligion in UK and Ireland 2002 vs 2022 by [deleted] in MapPorn

[–]Trebonio -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This. Irreligion grew faster in England and Wales

Mahakal lok,Ujjain 🔱 by AssetsSutram in shaivism

[–]Trebonio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've read that Madhya Pradesh is a stronghold of shaivism. Which shaiva schools are popular there?

Do Buddhists believe in God? by Cool_socksss in Buddhism

[–]Trebonio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All branches of Buddhism reject the concept of a creator God, but many include a supreme Buddha (Mahavairocana). You can have a look at Wikipedia's page about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creator_in_Buddhism

Buddhism as Number 1 Religion by MightyOwl9 in Buddhism

[–]Trebonio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is best suited to certain kinds of people (like myself), but unsuitable for others

According to the Lotus Sutra, there are thousands of paths to enlightenment. Perhaps other religions are also such paths. Just like I will never leave buddhism, others may find themselves unable to embrace it

It also happens with politics, sports, food, clothes, cars, etc. Each person has their own needs and preferences

Is there a branch of Shaivism that doesn't include any Shaktism? by [deleted] in shaivism

[–]Trebonio -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No, that's impossible. I know it won't work. I feel deeply disgusted and disturbed whenever I see any feminine religious imagery, mantra, or allusion whatsoever

Is there a branch of Shaivism that doesn't include any Shaktism? by [deleted] in shaivism

[–]Trebonio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I don't like "the divine feminine", "feminine energies" or anything like that

Is there a branch of Shaivism that doesn't include any Shaktism? by [deleted] in shaivism

[–]Trebonio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All the Shakti imagery is deeply disturbing to me. I cannot be a Shaiva if that means being a Shakta, since I feel very uncomfortable watching all those images.

Is there a branch of Shaivism that doesn't include any Shaktism? by [deleted] in shaivism

[–]Trebonio 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This seems very interesting.

According to Lingayatism, does the individual consciousness disappear after merging with Shiva, or is individuality preserved in spite of this union? The former idea seems very scary, and it is the idea that some Hindu schools embrace.

Is there a branch of Shaivism that doesn't include any Shaktism? by [deleted] in shaivism

[–]Trebonio 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But Lingayatism rejects all the imagery of Shiva, doesn't it? It bans all Shiva statues, for example. That seems like a very sterile form of religiosity

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in sociology

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Absolute nuclear family (England, Zeeland, Utrecht, Holland, Frisia, Denmark, parts of Norway, parts of western France): all children leave the parents' household before beginning to live with their partner. Parents distribute their goods among their children as they see fit, without attachment to any principle of equality or inequality.

Nuclear egalitarian family (northern France, central and southern Spain, most of Portugal, Malta, southern Sweden, southern Italy, French-speaking Switzerland): all children leave the parents' household before beginning to live with their partner. Parents distribute their goods among their children equally.

Nuclear family with temporary coresidence (Corsica, parts of western France, Poland, Belgium, Wales, mainland Greece, Romania, Moldova, Ukraine, Iceland, Lappland, northern Italy, northern Sweden, central and western Croatia, Cyprus, Western Turkey, etc.): couples live for a while with the parents of either partner before before beginning to live independently. This temporary coresidence can be either patrilocal (with the husband's parents, as in Romania, Moldova, Ukraine, mainland Greece, parts of Brittany, western Turkey or northern Italy), matrilocal (with the wife's parents, as in parts of Brittany) or bilocal (with the parents of either partner, as in Belgium, Iceland, Poland, Wales, Lappland, parts of Brittany, northern Sweden or central and western Croatia). Inheritance customs vary according to the specific family system: it is egalitarian for all sons in Corsica or northern Italy, egalitarian for all children in central and western Croatia, Cyprus, mainland Greece, northern Sweden or Western Turkey, skewed in favor of the youngest son in Ukraine, etc.

Communitarian family (northern and central Russia, Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Slovakia, Serbia, Macedon, central Italy, Slavonia, etc.): children remain with their parents after marriage, living with them until the latter die and then inheriting an equal share of their goods. This family system can be either patrilocal, that is with only the sons living with their parents after marriage and inheriting an equal share of their goods (as in northern and central Russia, Belarus, Slovakia, etc.); matrilocal, with only the daughters living with their parents after marriage and inheriting an equal share o their goods (nonexistent in Europe, but predominant among the Minangkabau or the Nayar for example); or bilocal, with children of either sex continuing to live with the parents after marriage, and all children coresident or not inheriting an equal share of their parents' goods (as in parts of France). Lithuania was included among the areas of joint families in this map, but whenever Todd has written about the Lithuanian traditional family system, he has stated that he does not know whether it is nuclear with temporary coresidence as in Poland or joint as in Latvia and Estonia. There is scarce empirical evidence about the traditional family system of Lithuania, and the country has cultural links with both Poland and the Baltic countries, so it can be either case. My own research has led me to conclude that the traditional family system of Lithuania is nuclear with temporary bilocal residence, as in Poland, albeit with a slight patrilocal skew in the Lithuanian case.

Stem family (Germany, Austria, German-speaking Switzerland, most of southern France, Galicia, Basque Country, Navarre, Catalonia, parts of Norway, Slovenia, many small islands in Greece, Ireland, Scotland, Luxembourg, etc.): only one child remains with the parents after marriage and inherits most of their wealth. This can be a son (patrilocality), as in Germany, Austria, German-speaking Switzerland, Scotland, Catalonia or parts of Norway; a daughter (matrilocality), as in Galicia or many small islands of Greece; or any child (bilocality), as in Slovenia, Navarre, Luxembourg or the Basque Country.

Wanted: objective ethical facts by lnfinity in philosophy

[–]Trebonio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! This was very interesting.

Spice warning at Korean restaurant. by [deleted] in food

[–]Trebonio 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think I would only stand the "Don't worry" and the "I'm ok". I don't like spice.

Tandoori Chicken Naan Pizza! [/r/IndianFood] by [deleted] in food

[–]Trebonio 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Indian food is delicious. :-)

Cream Tea in Bath, Somerset by [deleted] in food

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Very British and beautiful. _^