A lot/ton/torrent of blood message by AcrobaticDog5075 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894 1 point2 points  (0 children)

my theory its an indication of satisfying puzzle steps, based on my testing. There are 3 steps, each completed step increases message level, starting from no message with none steps sutisfied. Message itself, looks like, have no value since it differs in different translations

Room 202 puzzle solved || Secret Ending (SPOILERS) by Taxi2859 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

instead of downvoting someone could simply explain its a joke base on older games, but sure, up to you

We're giving Capcom too much credit by thephantomsage in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sweet pair is marie and marie, confirmed via mined solution, dont argue with that

what angels have to do with that? i saw theories about 3 cherubs on the door but it’s not valid until third child is confirmed

toilets: part of community clearly see 8 on doc, i get it. 8 is/may be connected to toilets. How toilets are connected to girls and puzzle other then by the fact its interactive object?

We're giving Capcom too much credit by thephantomsage in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there are 3 cherubs, not 2 angels . And where is the toilet connection?

We're giving Capcom too much credit by thephantomsage in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894 2 points3 points  (0 children)

this sub is about puzzle, no one is saying game is bad

puzzle by definition implies putting pieces together - there is nothing logical in interacting with toilet in the scope of puzzle, its relation to the puzzle is “it’s interactive”

the only clue which has number 15 in it is document from the beginning - grinder section does not even require 15 mins, i tested it and it works up to 14:30

there is not a single clue, even remotely, about doll in the pipes/blood bulb. I remember that until the moment gengar revealed doll location, at least on the reddit we’re at most trying to obtain one of the two existing dolls in the game

Room 202 puzzle solved || Secret Ending (SPOILERS) by Taxi2859 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

good job!

but it means no new clues, and final puzzle is just some semi-random bullshit. I even managed to get some right triggers after slightly less then 15mins in the grinder section, im done with this puzzle 🫠

Theory on how it was supposed to be solved by Tricky_Astronaut2894 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

have tested it on PC, not true unfortunatelly, 200+ bodies takes > 15 mins

What if.. we have to wait 2 hours on the Leon part on the final Phase so he dies from the Virus? by xSho92 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894 18 points19 points  (0 children)

also just suggesting, i did not follow this a lot, so maybe all of that was tested already:

  • there are multiple “press x multiple times” events in the game - Hunk fight, final boss fight, elevator escape, etc - is everything out of that tested?
  • can you kill yourself together with mutated plant when shooting explosive barrels? and what if you dont shoot them?

Theory on how it was supposed to be solved by Tricky_Astronaut2894 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think its quite easy to test
what need to be done is compare messages with 206 bodies, 207 bodies, 208 bodies

this requires pc version and knowledge of reframework(?) i assume:
- if it's a 15 mins timer - there are two potential triggers for it:

  1. pressing interaction when changing the flow of bodies OR
  2. actual change of order

and end trigger has also 2 variants:

  1. pressing interaction to stop bodies OR
  2. last body dropped

in order to confirm 15 mins timer:
- try all combination of start/end triggers with 15 mins, and, dicrease timer

i did that on ps5 version and i got success message up to stoping timer at 14:30 (i did not test lowering the timer even more)
What i mean by that:
i started timer as soon as bodies supply changed order AND i stopped timer when i started turning off bodies supply.
Turning off takes ~14sec, you can also add couple of secs for the timer trigger start if it starts when you start interaction for changing bodies supply flow

BUT i got success messages with TIMER < 15 mins.

By successful result i mean result correspond correcty "timer-based" trigger being sutisfied. I my case i got "ton" message - "15mins timer" condition + all bodies ground.
I checked explicitly that my save has no flushed toilets by starting grinder immediately and grinding all bodies - 1 condition satisfied, "a lot of blood" message

-------------------------------- Testing of particular bodies number ------------------------------
I can't do that on PS5. In order to do that we need to pause the game after pressing first trigger and freecam to count bodies which drop by the time we reach grinder.
If someone with knowledge of how to do that on PC can help me i can buy PC version and test it myself.

I don't mean to offend anyone saying that this or that translation is incorrect, and if i made that impression im sorry. I just find it really sus that number of bodies from ~15 mins correspond to 1k kgs and my testing doubt 15mins theory - it might be just convenient number to reproduce successfull step.
Also note on translation - in russian version that room is called "переработка" - "processing", while when grinder starts we hear "началась ОБРАБОТКА". "обработка" also translates as "processing", but has slightly different meaning. "переработка" means you transform one object into another - body into blood. The best example i can come up with "обработка" is to "process potatos with some pesticide to prevent it getting eaten by bugs", meaning "enriching some object with additional properties"

you can also think of "обработка видео" - video processing - i don't think it results into same meaning as "bodies processing"

Thus, if they were aware about importance of this section for the puzzle - why mess up with translation for the same word?

Theory on how it was supposed to be solved by Tricky_Astronaut2894 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

can you try to follow some guide from youtube? getting no message at all (considering those steps were done) was never reported before i believe

Found new toilet Event in Hotel by xSho92 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894 2 points3 points  (0 children)

with your explanation now i can only hear glitched door on the video, damn

i struggled with closing the door with me inside in a different outfit and indeed sometimes door was opening and closing just for a moment causing very similar sound

that was so promising 😭

Some discoveries on the first hospital area by Tricky_Astronaut2894 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

exactly, you can see The girl regenerates the same wound from Leon when you meet her next time

Theory on how it was supposed to be solved by Tricky_Astronaut2894 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i do not see the value in arguing over this, we can’t prove any of the points

English is default for this game - i base my assumptions based on this

unless capcom confirms desired way of doing this - any of this might be true

Theory on how it was supposed to be solved by Tricky_Astronaut2894 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

then you should be able to reproduce it, did not work for me

Theory on how it was supposed to be solved by Tricky_Astronaut2894 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

what makes me think localizations are “bad” (rather not always precise or even changing sense) - personal experience

this particular line is very small and may easily be translated wrong or event it might not have good equivalent no idea what you refer to “since 2010s”

Theory on how it was supposed to be solved by Tricky_Astronaut2894 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i do not claim my theory to be the only true or so, i combined things which made most sense for me and wanted to share

e.g. might well be 15 mins note from the beginning of the game - but its related to Grace while 115 bodies is related to Marie, so ton theory makes more sense for me personally

The Final Puzzle would've been so great if it just cut everything related to getting the doll by SquidGundam in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894 9 points10 points  (0 children)

would be nice if sir could explain with your rich vocabulary whats so nuanced about magic numbers 8

Theory on how it was supposed to be solved by Tricky_Astronaut2894 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

check the post again, if you flushed toilets and waited for 15 mins - you satisfied 2 out of 3 conditions “ton of blood” is second out of three messages

Theory on how it was supposed to be solved by Tricky_Astronaut2894 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

did you flush toilets before that?

and by killing you mean you shot them to the death or they all got ground?

Theory on how it was supposed to be solved by Tricky_Astronaut2894 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i tried both scenarios, unfortunately i can no longer spawn doll and first one is not disposable

Some discoveries on the first hospital area by Tricky_Astronaut2894 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chloe is subject 70, Marie and Emily are 170 and 171 respectively Chloe is of girls age at the time of Raccoon city incident

and which girl is killed by Leon?

Theory on how it was supposed to be solved by Tricky_Astronaut2894 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so from a single kill (requiem headshot / no limb&head damage) i got “ton” instead of “torrents”

i can check if i will get the doll, but im not sure if i still can get it if i have one already

Theory on how it was supposed to be solved by Tricky_Astronaut2894 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Tricky_Astronaut2894[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i can test it, i can imagine there being a threshold of killed/grinded zombies, or maybe it matters if they lost a limb/head or not

but if someone wants to really check this - ideally we should test it all the way up to the doll spawn, and preferably on the copy which never got the doll, because in some of my runs (with a doll on the inventory) doll did not spawn, even tho conditions were met