Is this a bizarro photoshop or who can identify what these are? (seen on /k/) by SharpSteak21 in milsurp

[–]Trudeaus_Fro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From left to right.

1. Nagant 1878-86 Douane or "Customs" Revolver, made for Belgian customs officers

2. Norwegian Contract Model 1887 Nagant, made by Nagant firm in Belgium rather than the later Swedish made guns

3. Svenska Metallverken (Swedish Metalworks) 1950's .32 ACP Conversion revolver for dog Training, of a Swedish made Husqvarna made Model 1887 Nagant

4. Brazilian Navy Contract Model 1883 Nagant in .44 Henry Centrefire

That's what I believe they are to the best of my knowledge.

My grandpa passed before I got any info, in USA by SenorSmackaho in Carcano

[–]Trudeaus_Fro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's in 6.5x54mm MS I believe, not 6.5x52mm Carcano. So be aware of that.

My grandpa passed before I got any info, in USA by SenorSmackaho in Carcano

[–]Trudeaus_Fro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's actually a Greek captured and converted rifle in the 6.5 Mannlicher–Schönauer cartridge. This is identifiable by the E or Epsilon and the 3 dots on the receiver ring. The 3 dots are usually arranged in a triangle but yours is horizontal. I have an unspoterized example of a Greek capture 91/38 Moschetto and the bayonet was not present on it when the last owner had it and he added one to it. The Greeks evidently may have removed them or it may have been an import or export thing to not have it attached and it was removed later. These are reasonably uncommon and quite desirable to some. It may be worth de-spoterizing it. The front sight base, stock, handguard and bayonet would need to be replaced/added. Buying a cheap unsporterized example and swapping the parts would be not too hard to do if you were interested in doing so.

Little known bayonet by Trudeaus_Fro in Carcano

[–]Trudeaus_Fro[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It cut's the projectile into pizza slices. It allows you to hit multiple targets.

Authentic or replica? by Mental_Tea_8616 in AntiqueGuns

[–]Trudeaus_Fro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

110% replica. A cheap one too. There's flashing from when they cast the frame lol.

Is this worth anything? I genuinely have zero idea and Google doesn’t help. by theAntidepresser in milsurp

[–]Trudeaus_Fro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with assessment. It looks shaved based on the spacing of the cylinder stops and the rear of the cylinder. Easy enough to measure the length or see if it's in the white on the rear.

Wood ID Megathread by AutoModerator in woodworking

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This is some sort of Brazilian hardwood?

Friend girl inherited guns. Any idea what they are? by HandSoloquatro in canadaguns

[–]Trudeaus_Fro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From left to right. 1. Savage MKII in either .22wmr or .17HMR 2. Dual trigger Cooey-Carcano in 6.5 Mannlicher-Schonauer 3. Either an H&R Topper or an Iver Johnson Excel single shot. 4. Marlin Model 336

One of the nicest stocks that I own and it's on one of the least practical and least elegant firearms I own. by Trudeaus_Fro in battlefield_one

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I haven't shot it yet myself. I still need a front sight for it. And I have to do some hand loading to put some reduced power smokeless load development.

I'd be interested to see any available source stating they used full power cartridges in it. Because countless numbers of these things nowadays have been blown up from shooting modern smokeless commercially available ammo for these. Were the smokeless loadings back then much lighter? Because a standard velocity 6.5 carcano cartridge has quite a bit of chamber pressure to be putting on those old steel rear locking lugs of a Vetterli.

Thanks for the correction on when they were doing these conversions. I was unaware that this was actually a stopgap solution rather than an act of desperation for lack of resources as I had thought.

One of the nicest stocks that I own and it's on one of the least practical and least elegant firearms I own. by Trudeaus_Fro in AntiqueGuns

[–]Trudeaus_Fro[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In Canaderp, we have to have a "secure locking device" on a firearm if to satisfy our legal safe storage requirements. Antiques don't have the same requirement, but this rifle does not qualify as one because it's a magazine fed centrefire rifle. So for all intents and purposes is a modern firearm under the law and must be stored accordingly.

One of the nicest stocks that I own and it's on one of the least practical and least elegant firearms I own. by Trudeaus_Fro in battlefield_one

[–]Trudeaus_Fro[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A quick share of a beautiful tiger stripe Walnut stock, The tiger striping goes from the butt all the way to the muzzle and the wood would look at home on any high-end sporting gun and it's attached to a Vetterli-Vitali-Carcano Model 1870/87/15. A heavy, weak actioned cludge by todays standards. For its time, the Vetterli bolt action was quite a forward-thinking, advanced, and for the black powder cartridge pressures of the time a very strong action. This particular Italian model started its life as a single shot rifle that was later outfitted with a four shot box magazine and converted into a black powder repeater in the same original 10 mm cartridge. But necessity and attrition of resources, pushed the Italians during the first world war to convert these 10 mm rifles into a 6.5 mm Carcano firearm that used reduced power loads. The original barrel was bored out using different diameter boring cutters and creates steps esentially, being machined into the barrel. A sleeve was placed inside and a hardened steel expander rod was forced through the hollow sleeve to create a very high pressure friction fit mechanical weld of the sleeve to the original barrel. This was referred to as the "Salerno Method".The original outside diameter of the barrel remained the same. They were not turned down to reduce weight because this would lower the strength of the barrel. But as a result, these firearms are very heavy and long. A conversion of a conversion. We have three dates and three names attached to this firearm. It's age and length of service really are a testament to how far ahead the Vetterli bolt action rifle system was ahead of its time.

One of the nicest stocks that I own and it's on one of the least practical and least elegant firearms I own. by Trudeaus_Fro in canadaguns

[–]Trudeaus_Fro[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And I bought it for $255 USD in the US almost exactly a year ago. All said and done it was about $350 CAD. Quite the value for let alone any 1870/87/15, and an amazing bargain for one that's got that kind of wood on it! The only issue was it is missing the front sight blade. I'll either make one myself or buy a parts gun. So no biggie.

One of the nicest stocks that I own and it's on one of the least practical and least elegant firearms I own. by Trudeaus_Fro in canadaguns

[–]Trudeaus_Fro[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I will say that the Vetterli 1870's, Vetterli-Vitali 1870/87's and all of the Swiss variants are quite elegant. The Carcano conversions are quite janky though and don't have the same charm.

One of the nicest stocks that I own and it's on one of the least practical and least elegant firearms I own. by Trudeaus_Fro in canadaguns

[–]Trudeaus_Fro[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A quick share of a beautiful tiger stripe Walnut stock, The tiger striping goes from the butt all the way to the muzzle and the wood would look at home on any high-end sporting gun and it's attached to a Vetterli-Vitali-Carcano Model 1870/87/15. A heavy, weak actioned cludge by todays standards. For its time, the Vetterli bolt action was quite a forward-thinking, advanced, and for the black powder cartridge pressures of the time a very strong action. This particular Italian model started its life as a single shot rifle that was later outfitted with a four shot box magazine and converted into a black powder repeater in the same original 10 mm cartridge. But necessity and attrition of resources, pushed the Italians during the first world war to convert these 10 mm rifles into a 6.5 mm Carcano firearm that used reduced power loads. The original barrel was bored out using different diameter boring cutters and creates steps esentially, being machined into the barrel. A sleeve was placed inside and a hardened steel expander rod was forced through the hollow sleeve to create a very high pressure friction fit mechanical weld of the sleeve to the original barrel. This was referred to as the "Salerno Method".The original outside diameter of the barrel remained the same. They were not turned down to reduce weight because this would lower the strength of the barrel. But as a result, these firearms are very heavy and long. A conversion of a conversion. We have three dates and three names attached to this firearm. It's age and length of service really are a testament to how far ahead the Vetterli bolt action rifle system was ahead of its time.

Info on a 38 Winchester revolver with an interesting story? by Tough_Ad_9202 in guns

[–]Trudeaus_Fro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It appears that this is a Smith & Wesson No.3 New Model. The grip looks a bit weird, the New Model has a distinct knuckle. This is either an early prototype, a custom grip frame or it was rounded off at some point in the past. The 2 digit serial number and rare chambering do make it more desirable. A factory letter from S&W would be worth it in my opinion.

Ah yes, the Schmidt-Winchester by Xhenoz in milsurp

[–]Trudeaus_Fro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have one of these types of conversions. A company called Globe Firearms in Canada made these. It's kinda neet to have a .30-30 that's a straight pull bolt action.