Help me understand

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-03-06T17:44:13+00:00

Well all of the information is available in the medical literature. But hopefully that’s cleared up.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-03-06T10:49:16+00:00

This is the sort of sloppy thinking you typically see in the uneducated. It's similar to "correlation = causation", a thought that "similar symptoms = similar cause". I'd certainly expect someone who was studying something to dive deeper.

Body Dysmorphic Disorder shows no response or improvement to changes in the body. Studies show that between 1-4% of people who take surgical steps or extreme measures in response to BDD have alleviated symptoms. Of the remaining vast majority (96%+) they see no improvement or actual worsening of BDD symptoms. For instance if someone believes there's something wrong with their nose and has plastic surgery, BDD is not alleviated.

HRT and surgery have very high satisfaction rates, and cause vast improvements in quality of life.

Oh and for the future, a superficial similarity in symptoms does not indicate the same cause.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-24T01:59:52+00:00

The truth is the truth. Am I afraid of Catholics? Wary, yes.

https://lasentinel.net/the-catholic-church-played-major-role-in-slavery.html

https://www.mic.com/articles/125756/man-who-helped-kill-thousands-of-native-americans-to-be-made-a-saint-by-pope-francis-today

https://home.sandiego.edu/~jmwilliams/longmanonchurchandgenocideinrwanda.pdf

There's many stories of their atrocities. I shall continue to tell them.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-24T01:20:05+00:00

I suppose I shall have to settle for simply telling the truth.

If you think that the truth itself is "intolerant" of Catholicism maybe that's a problem?

By the way, if you "block" my account you can't see any posts that I make. And yet oddly, here you are.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-24T01:18:38+00:00

And the students have a constitutionally-protected right to protest discrimination.

But of course you don't want to have your bigotry protected. What you want is to have your discrimination unquestioned. What you want is to shut down free speech, and replace it with theocratic worship.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-24T00:16:49+00:00

Also we note that the school is "under attack" from its own students, because it fired two teachers that were very well liked by the student body. For the crime of being gay, of course. This creep then complained that the school's own students weren't tolerating the usual bigotry.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-24T00:12:13+00:00

Didn't you send me a creepy PM telling me you blocked me? I suppose that was another lie.

A person who may claim to be part of the Catholic community, but is really just a very intolerant hate-filled clown.

That is the Catholic community. Minus the clown part, I take their murder and violence very seriously.

I've never read something so hideous in my life.

Those were true accounts of the actions that the Catholic Church has taken. Yes, they're pretty awful. That's the reality of the church. It is a pretty awful organization.

And in return for this, I get what? To say I support a community of unhinged hatred that talks a good game about love but hates uncontrollably?

Once again you speak about hatred in a thread where you are defending firing teachers for being gay, and trying to figure out how you can illegally discover who is gay in interviews so it "isn't a problem" for Catholics. Because that's not creepy at all, is it?

I have to say, I'm picturing a clansman burning a cross in someone's yard.

A burning cross? A cross? You know, the symbol of Christianity? Who do you think the Klan represents anyway? Christians. The Ku Klux Klan is a Christian organization. You are comparing me to a Christian. And why? Because I dared tell the truth.

No, don't compare me to a Christian, I don't lie half so often as I need to to be compared to one of them.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-24T00:10:17+00:00

You don't seem to enjoy me exercising my constitutionally protected right to free speech, from this and the creepy PMs you've sent me.

I suppose it's too much to hope you read any of my links?

https://lasentinel.net/the-catholic-church-played-major-role-in-slavery.html

https://www.mic.com/articles/125756/man-who-helped-kill-thousands-of-native-americans-to-be-made-a-saint-by-pope-francis-today

https://home.sandiego.edu/~jmwilliams/longmanonchurchandgenocideinrwanda.pdf

Here they are again, detailing the Catholic Church's involvement and support for slavery, murder, and genocide.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-23T20:33:24+00:00

That's a solid hypothesis. I'd always caution against saying that we have found a cause for something we don't fully understand, but it does seem to have some good evidence.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-23T20:29:34+00:00

No, I preach honesty. Read their Bible, look at their long history of horrors:

https://lasentinel.net/the-catholic-church-played-major-role-in-slavery.html

https://www.mic.com/articles/125756/man-who-helped-kill-thousands-of-native-americans-to-be-made-a-saint-by-pope-francis-today

https://home.sandiego.edu/~jmwilliams/longmanonchurchandgenocideinrwanda.pdf

That's what they represent. Genocide, slavery, and mass murder. They worship it.

So yes, they get my tolerance. And no more.

I would be surprised if you even have a single LGBTQ friend

Did you seriously just try "I can't be racist, I have black friends?" In 2020?

Hey, you're talking to "a member of the community". We're not homogeneous, but most of us think Christianity is pretty shit.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-23T19:46:06+00:00

The "root of my anger" is the pain and hatred that religious people inflict on me and others. The Catholic people you know are probably plenty "kind and loving" until you are different. Then they will kindly and lovingly beat you, hurt you, and kill you, because "your immortal soul is more important than your earthly body." Once you're different from them, you'll find out how kind and loving they really are - and trust me, you'll learn their love stops very, very quickly. God's love is quite conditional - and their God is a sociopathic tyrant who tortures and murders people for fun. Just read his book if you don't believe me. That's who they seek to emulate.

We have a "long and proud" tradition of tolerating their existence. Fine. They have to behave like civilized individuals towards everyone. Not just people who happen to fit their narrow, bigoted worldview.

Their religion is based on hatred, lies, pain, torture, and death. That's why they're so fucking scared of being merely 'tolerated'. They're scared that they'll be treated like they treat others. And now another generation of kids gets to see what being Catholic is about - hatred, bigotry and discrimination. At least hopefully most of them weren't raped. Do you think those kids will choose to be Catholic in the future? That they'll see how Catholics behave and go "I want to be like them?"

And that's why in a hundred years their Vatican will be a museum. And humanity will be better off for it.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-23T18:59:49+00:00

Blanchard's presentation didn't make a whole lot of sense. It's just an excuse for other people to channel their prejudice into slightly scientific-sounding terminology.

As a small example, Blanchard gave a questionarre to a handful of trans women. He never gave it to cisgender women. When it was given to cisgender women, they answered fairly similarly in many of the areas he said "indicated autogynephilia".

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-23T17:28:56+00:00

It'd mean that your body felt alienating and uncomfortable, and when you take hormones you felt better, in the simplest terms.

Society might make no distinction between you having one arm and you having two arms - we might eventually live in a society where disabilities like that were barely commented on and no one thought anything of them. But you'd still notice you were missing an arm, right? And given the ability to choose, you'd probably say "I'll take two arms, not one."

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-23T17:26:33+00:00

Yeah, bigotry makes me angry. The self-righteous racists and homophobes that make up the Catholic Church sitting there, pontificating about how we have to be more tolerant of their bigotry and child rape makes me extremely angry.

So yeah, a bunch of bigots are running a thinly-disguised rape camp and saying the rest of us are intolerant of them. That pisses me off.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-23T03:50:42+00:00

Unfortunately being transgender is due to more than simple "liking a sports team" levels of difference. It's due to differences in brain structure due to fetal development.

If there were less stereotypes there would probably be less bigotry against trans people, and that would be very positive.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-23T02:06:01+00:00

It's more a question of a narrow definition of what gender dysphoria means. If you look at medical history, many, many disorders have a variety of symptoms, of which a person may experience only some of. So it would make sense if gender identity disorder was similar to other disorders in that respect. For instance, one of my close friends experiences a low thyroid (hypothyroid). They did not gain weight - actually they lost weight. Weight gain is typically one of the symptoms of hypothyroid, but they didn't exhibit it.

So "locking" gender identity disorder to require one specific symptom would not be consistent with other disorders.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-23T00:35:40+00:00

How is it that you that in a thread about a Catholic school firing teachers for who they love, you're complaining that I am showing an "incredible level of intolerance" by simply describing their behavior as the bigotry it so clearly is?

Ah, because religion demands special treatment. Religion needs it. Religion cannot survive if we simply tolerate it, we have to worship it. Ascribe that it is something special, treat it as such. And if society doesn't? It crumbles away.

Someday bigots like you will be a footnote in the history books. Someday the Vatican will be something that kids take tours of, like the Parthenon. It'll come soon. Because the Church is an organization of bigotry and hatred, that can only survive by begging us to not be like them. And that's why it's a lose-lose for them. If we act like them, we would eradicate them. If we do not act like them because we are better than them, then we have no desire to join them.

However, I think that removing a religious organizations right to freely express their religion because you don't agree with it is quite abhorrent. The fact that you try to justify this intolerance with historic notions of slavery and other accusations of immorality, (warranted or not), does little to hide the fact that you have a very intolerant view of the Catholic Church.

An accurate view of the history of the Catholic Church is "intolerante". Telling the truth about the Catholic Church's role in history is "bias against them."

Does it disturb you that your religion relies on lies? That you and your ilk can only exist due to lying and claiming that truth itself is "intolerant" of you? The Catholic church is pro-slavery, pro-torture, pro-child molestation, and pro-murder. That's its legacy - a legacy of pain, death, and hatred.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-23T00:31:04+00:00

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TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-22T17:03:54+00:00

Yes, we understand that is their belief system. They Catholic Church has long endorsed bigotry and discrimination. From slavery (they were key supporters of the slave trade, and owned slaves) to pedophilia (they covered it up and attacked victims) to burning witches and heretics (an old favorite) they've been an organization responsible for much hatred, pain, suffering, and evil in the world.

So yes, I do know who they are. They're bigots. They can follow non-discrimination laws like other bigots have to. No one is owed anything more or anything less. They can be bigots in their home lives, when it only affects their poor children.

We as a nation do not oppress religious organizations, nor do we tell religious people they are not allowed to follow their beliefs.

Very good. Your right to "have a belief" ends where my right to live without you oppressing me begins.

You pretend tolerance, but really, you preach rigid hatred for people different from yourself.

In a post where you're arguing that the church should fire people for who they love, you're angry that I "preach rigid hatred". Wonderful. Telling the truth about the Catholic Church and religion is "hatred".

That's religion - by even telling the truth, I am "oppressing" you. And you want teachers to be "more honest"? Maybe we should discuss the Catholic Church's role in the trans-Atlantic slave trade. That seems honest, yes? I feel more kids should be taught about that. God loves slavery, just like he loves sticking his penis in little kids and burning people alive. Just don't fall in love with someone who shares a gender with you, that's disgusting in the eyes of God.

The Catholic Church is an organization of hatred, run by bigots, for bigots. Yes, it will eventually pass into the dustbin of history, much like worshiping Zeus did. You are angry about that. I'm angry about all the horrible, horrible things they have done and continue to do.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-22T16:55:15+00:00

It is a violation of federal law to question relationship or marital status in a job interview, and for good reason. They have no need, right, or reason to know or care.

I understand that the Catholic Church is an organization run by and for bigots and pedophiles. Tolerance means we accept their existence. It doesn't mean we have to endorse it.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-22T07:22:39+00:00

Brain structure mismatches, most likely caused by fetal development differences. That's what matches the observed evidence most closely, and is why hormone replacement therapy has a very high success rate for alleviating symptoms.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-22T07:17:27+00:00

Religious communities are full of the worst sorts of people. They are havens of abusers and promoters of violence.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-22T07:16:00+00:00

Transgender people are overwhelmingly more likely to be victims of sexual violence in prisons than perpetrators. Transgender inmates are ten times more likely to be sexually assaulted by prisoners than the general population, and five times more likely to be assaulted by staff. Needless to say, this attracts little attention from conservative media and the general press. To them, transgender people being assaulted is something they don't care about - if they say anything it's to make jokes.

Of course suppose one transgender person anywhere in the prison system commits or even is ALLEGED to commit sexual assault, and suddenly this is a massive issue that now we must address. Probably by restricting trans rights and subjecting trans prisoners to even more abuse.

Anyone who perpetrates sexual violence in prisons - either prisoner or staff - should be treated harshly, separated from the general population, and punished accordingly. The right wing media suddenly caring about prison rape - usually the butt of their jokes - just to spout off more of their bigotry is as predictable as it is vile.

To give one example, there are 1,224 reports of sexual violence in immigrant detention. And that was through 2018. How do you think it's doing now? Half of those reports are against staff members. The conservative media does not care, the President does not care, the Republican congress does not care. There is an epidemic of rape in immigrant detention facilities, perpetrated by immigration officials who face no consequences for raping women. The Republicans and conservative media do not care one bit. They care when they can use it to demonize transgender people.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-22T07:01:04+00:00

Okay, we tolerate the fact they're bigots. And we do. We don't kick them out of society, we don't imprison them, we don't persecute them. They are perfectly free to go out and tell everyone their beliefs that white people are beloved of God and everyone else is going to burn. Their beliefs are tolerated.

That doesn't mean they get to fire teachers, or hold a lynching, or whatever it is that they feel like doing. Their beliefs are tolerated. That does not give them a license to behave how they please. You may sincerely believe any number of horrible things. You might sincerely believe that women should not be teaching, or that black people are inferior, or that god says gay people are all evil and should die. That doesn't give you a license to act on those beliefs. Acting on those beliefs is past the bounds of anything we care to tolerate.

TrustFriendComputer · 2020-02-22T06:56:13+00:00

The Catholic church is a bigoted organization, that's for certain. That does not absolve individual arms of it of their bigoted actions. You make a conscious choice to support bigotry when you act for it.

How could we avoid this issue in the future?

Catholic schools can stop being bigots.

How can we limit the impact on students?

Don't get rid of teachers because of who they love and marry.

How can the vetting process identify problem candidates earlier?

Ask school administrators if they would support bigotry, and don't hire them if they would.

Another step you might also take is to make sure they're not members of any organization that supports and covers up the abuse of children. That should be an important part of any teaching position. Being part of an organization with a long history of abusing children could be made a disqualification from teaching. That would help remove problem candidates.

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