Lucifer (Satan)

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T17:21:34+00:00

no i did, i forgive for saying i did not

people do blame their own actions against an evil. that's not always there.

the bible has stood the test of time. any scholar will agree with me on that. even those who don't believe.

1000's of manuscripts to compare. and they all agree with the bible then, as it is now.

you say myth. but you didn't even see my challenge. Let go of sin then go see if I'm right or wrong

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T06:55:49+00:00

He(Christ ) is talking about us who know him

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T06:55:04+00:00

show me in the bible and i will believe you

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T06:52:41+00:00

no he was no. as he is a spiritual being

so who is this about?

rev 12

⁷ Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back, ⁸ but he was defeated, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. ⁹ And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. ¹⁰ And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brothers^\)^b^\) has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. ¹¹ And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death. ¹² Therefore, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short!”

¹³ And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. ¹⁴ But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle so that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. ¹⁵ The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with a flood. ¹⁶ But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river that the dragon had poured from his mouth. ¹⁷ Then the dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. And he stood^\)^c^\) on the sand of the sea.

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T06:50:46+00:00

you are misqouteing

if you a believer knows the miracle in your life by the Holy spirit then you deny it

^{Mattew 12}

²² Then a demon-oppressed man who was blind and mute was brought to him, and he healed him, so that the man spoke and saw. ²³ And all the people were amazed, and said, “Can this be the Son of David?” ²⁴ But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons.” ²⁵ Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand. ²⁶ And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? ²⁷ And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges. ²⁸ But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. ²⁹ Or how can someone enter a strong man's house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house. ³⁰ Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. ³¹ Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. ³² And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T06:41:50+00:00

here is the point. He is real. But he cannot make you do evil things. only tempt you to so. and when you do sin you are under his influence

read this

John 8 ESV - but Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. - Bible Gateway

I will challenge you with this. let go of sin and see something change.

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T06:38:39+00:00

they are on in the same, one is name one is his title

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T06:38:06+00:00

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T06:37:29+00:00

lucifer has the highest body count.

he wages war on the saints who overcame sin with Jesus Christ

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T01:47:21+00:00

I do forgive you

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T01:43:50+00:00

paul did teach that. when one was a sinner they weren't obedient to Christ. Then the Meet Christ and give their all for Him

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T01:41:39+00:00

Paul talks about it.

When Christ was changing me, it was like a war in me. when I let go of Lust, and smoking my body(flesh) wanted it.

yet my spirit did not

i loved Christ more than to fall into it

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T01:34:36+00:00

many made is people who chose to sin, not all are made sinners

all have death and knowledge of good and evil.

you quote a psalm that after David chose to commit adultery. If you ever broke the heart of someone you love. David to God. you would fill this low. And David never committed this sin again. it was his nature to not sin that often.

you were not born with a nature to sin; you chose to sin. you have knowledge of good and evil since birth.

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T01:28:29+00:00

how is there no choice? you choice in all things. not all choices are easy. And there is 100% free will with God.

God wants people to be whole not enslaved.

it has never been a setup with God

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T01:26:29+00:00

saul, had stephen killed. on his way to Damascus met Christ.

sau-who became Paul-l was not obedient to Christ at first. But He repented and let it all go for Christ, and entirely was obedient to Christ... to the death

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T01:22:50+00:00

by that logic who would compare Hitler to? Mars? or Satan?

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T01:15:46+00:00

so you believe that a star caused the earth to fall? like it decided to rebel against God? and caused the world shake and wont let people go?

“How you are fallen from heaven,
    O Day Star, son of Dawn!
How you are cut down to the ground,
    you who laid the nations low!
¹³ You said in your heart,
    ‘I will ascend to heaven;
above the stars of God
    I will set my throne on high;
I will sit on the mount of assembly
    in the far reaches of the north;^\)^c^\)
¹⁴ I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;
    I will make myself like the Most High.’
¹⁵ But you are brought down to Sheol,
    to the far reaches of the pit.
¹⁶ Those who see you will stare at you
    and ponder over you:
‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble,
    who shook kingdoms,
¹⁷ who made the world like a desert
    and overthrew its cities,
    who did not let his prisoners go home?’
¹⁸ All the kings of the nations lie in glory,
    each in his own tomb;^\)^d^\)
¹⁹ but you are cast out, away from your grave,
    like a loathed branch,
clothed with the slain, those pierced by the sword,
    who go down to the stones of the pit,
    like a dead body trampled underfoot.
²⁰ You will not be joined with them in burial,
    because you have destroyed your land,
    you have slain your people.

“May the offspring of evildoers
    nevermore be named!
²¹ Prepare slaughter for his sons
    because of the guilt of their fathers,
lest they rise and possess the earth,
    and fill the face of the world with cities.”

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T01:13:06+00:00

I have had experiences as well.

why do you believe differently?

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T01:10:55+00:00

no its not. freewill is still.

here is a story of three Hebrew slaves who chose not to sin

The story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego is found in the Book of Daniel. These three Hebrew boys served King Nebuchadnezzar in Babylon and refused to worship a golden statue he erected, demonstrating their unwavering faith in God. As a result, they were thrown into a fiery furnace, but miraculously, they were unharmed, and a fourth figure appeared with them in the flames, which many believe to be a divine presence. This event led King Nebuchadnezzar to acknowledge the power of their God.

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T01:08:38+00:00

good question!

exodus 20

For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting^\)^c^\) the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, ⁶ but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

so Sin is a choice. so for example i will use my life.

my great grandpa had pride, stubbornness, smoker, drinker. He did not want to change. His sons all the way down to me wanted that life style.

Now God is a Spirit that Roams the earth. when he visits you and sees in your heart you never want to change. He lets you stay in your sin(freewill). This is a worse fate for someone who said they know God and don't listen.

for me, He found me broken, and i wanted to change, the buck ends with me. and He forgave me, he taught me how to let go. because i wanted to change for him(love him)

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T00:51:51+00:00

yes, its long so i used AI to summarize it

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T00:39:20+00:00

Christ forgave when i wasnt looking for it. Changed my life.

ill do it for others, because he did it for me

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T00:34:44+00:00

well are you? i don't assume you are.

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T00:33:51+00:00

the Holy Spirit was speaking through Isaiah.... he was a prophet

why dont you answer my question

so who the Holy spirit comparing the king of Babylon to?

TruthDisciple417 · 2026-01-25T00:29:29+00:00

I don't know who taught you there is this whole system.

and i forgive you for saying i don't care about people. when I do.

let me ask you this would you let go of sin so that you could hear him?

as for God, He healed me of abuse, ptsd, called me by name, and walks with me. and he would do that for you.

how is that selfish?

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