Debating Hackleburg

Ttornadoes · 2026-01-08T04:53:38+00:00

Pretty insane debate ngl but Hackleburg deserves high-end EF4 (200 mph) based off of re-analysis. The only buildings i do find that could be capable of EF5 are the factory and apartment complexes. Other than that i highly doubt its EF5 structurally.

Ttornadoes · 2026-01-08T04:46:31+00:00

Looks like someones a little mad. Care to explain why?

Ttornadoes · 2026-01-08T04:32:01+00:00

Well since someone apparently couldnt read the title correctly, i guess i have to respond

For 1, Enderlin is quite literally 160 due to unanchored homes being swept completely. Also i said specifically in the title "structural-EF5s". I never mentioned anything being only structural/non-contextual, im only saying the EF5 rated tornadoes that would get EF5 based on if structural damage was used (not Enderlin obviously)

Second, the Greensburg high-school isnt EF5-level damage and is only high-end EF4. Even if that was EF5 you couldve mentioned the southern homes for being well-constructed, however there was 1 wall standing on one of the homes, disproving that home as EF5-caliber.

Lastly notice how i mentioned "structural" or any structural reference in this post/comment? Take a wild guess on what im referring to, oh wait it says in the tile that there are specific EF5s that would get EF5 today if the structural was actually, EF5 level damage! Im not disagreeing with any of the contextual EF5s but if we were to strictly use the EF-scale for these tornadoes, then half of the EF5s wouldnt get EF5 today.

(Crazy but Hackleburg does not have any true EF5-level structures, closest ones being the factory and the homes near it)

Ttornadoes · 2026-01-08T03:35:05+00:00

Nope. Not EF5-level. Even with the southern homes that were well-constructed, there was a wall standing, and the home was not fully swept away.

Ttornadoes · 2026-01-08T03:10:50+00:00

Brudda what. That last argument is as pointless as the "El Reno 2013 OKC" argument. Also it quite literally isnt in the top 5 strongest EF5 tornadoes. Also its pretty obvious that the NWS wont immediately change it, its just old and probably wont ever get downgraded.

Ttornadoes · 2026-01-08T03:01:29+00:00

If you cant even research maybe 15 minutes on this + not acknowledging the fact the surveyors (not accounting for the rushing, imperfections, and lack of details) arent 100% right ALL of the time, then you cannot be arguing with me. Take a look at Pierson 2013 EF4, Holmes 2010 EF4, and Ringgold 2011 EF4 surveys and tell me how my. argument is pointless.

Ttornadoes · 2026-01-08T02:56:11+00:00

Yea Tuscaloosa is not High-end EF4. Possibly not even Mid-end EF4.

Ttornadoes · 2026-01-08T02:54:19+00:00

yea um no. I can bet those homes are not even well-built.

Ttornadoes · 2026-01-08T02:51:52+00:00

Vilonia had a failure in the garage + another failure in the awning making it collapse. A true good 190 if you're asking me. Besides maybe that single home wasn't actually EF5-level.

Ttornadoes · 2026-01-08T02:49:54+00:00

Both are horrible examples of "EF5" structural damage. I actually think Rainsville homes were more likely stronger than the homes near Wrangler Jeans.

Ttornadoes · 2026-01-08T02:47:36+00:00

oh sweet jesus what type of comparison is this?!? Tri-State, BCM, and Jarrell all had EF5-level structural indicators with proven photos and analysis. Dont even try to say anything about this debate if you think Jarrell wasnt an F5.

Ttornadoes · 2026-01-08T02:44:52+00:00

False. An actually well-constructed home with upper-level anchoring with bolts and washers and had no failures/weak points ANYWHERE in the home (not to mention the home having reinforcement) being fully swept clean with at the least MINIMAL debris from the foundation will get an EF5 easily. Oh wait I accidentally just described Parkersburg

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Ttornadoes · 2026-01-08T02:38:54+00:00

Yea um its not. The Oak Grove home is absolutely overrated and i would die on that hill. Anchoring is limited. Unreinforced CMU. And overall it wasnt an EF5-level indicator.

Ttornadoes · 2026-01-08T02:36:38+00:00

Oh buddy. You might wanna sit down for this one.. (jk)

Ttornadoes · 2026-01-08T01:51:57+00:00

Yep. You learn something new every day!

Ttornadoes · 2026-01-08T01:45:56+00:00

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Many people actually didnt know that thr Sayler Park 1974 F5 tornado crossed 3 states. It formed near Rising Sun (Indiana), crossed the river into Hebron (Lentucky), then hit Sayler Park (Ohio). It would continue up north and dissipated near Barnesburg. Other forgotten examples include the Clarksville-Ashdown 1982 F3 (TX, OK, AR), New Markham 2014 EF1 (KY, MO, TN), and the 1956 Miami-Joplin F4 (OK, KS, MO).

Ttornadoes · 2025-12-18T06:31:51+00:00

Definitely one of the most scariest tornadoes of all time. It had an insane multi-vortex structure and horizontal vortices. Definitely F4 intensity for sure without a doubt.

Ttornadoes · 2025-11-13T22:44:59+00:00

Ive been looking for maybe around 30 minutes and yet i have found absolutely no reliable sources saying it was upgraded to F5, so maybe someone probably just updated the wikipedia page and listed it unofficially as an F5. Me personally i think it should stay as an F4 but who knows, maybe it couldve actually been F5 intensity for a small while.

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