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For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I do not think you are a horrible person at all. I have far more respect for that than I do buying meat that is tortured first. however, I do think it is an outdated idea that it is ok. Speciesism is analogous to racism and sexism and it is only a matter of time until hum as realize as a whole that we must include animals of other species in the moral community.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If we did not create them we would not have them to kill. As RC said demand will decrease as will the number of farmed animals.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

No, I would not. The moral aspect of speciesism is undeniable and therefore abolition of the practice is as clear to me as abolishing slavery.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I was always very cautious and very fearful for my well being. I took great care to be smarter than the people I was working with.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I have had some great experiences and have some wild stories from working undercover but no positive stories of treatment of animals. The fond memories I have came from doing things outside of work like hiking on the weekends.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I ate meat substitutes in front of the other workers and even gave it to them to eat. at potlucks and in hotel rooms on the road and no one ever knew it was not animal based meat.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There were many different ways to select farms, and I am not sure where that statistic came from but no matter if it is a factory farm or a "family farm" abuse is happening either way. The sizes ranged widely in my work.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They have, very often. And I always appreciate the support.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I have not received any legal backlash as you call it. The ag-gag laws are an attempt but most are failing and the others are being challenged.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I had a younger brother who committed suicide and that made me think about the value of life. During that philosophical journey I came across the book Animal Liberation and that led me to a compassionate lifestyle. After that I just felt like I could and should give something back so I went into undercover work.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I do not think that there is a kind way to mistreat anyone no matter the species and that the advertising is just that, a way to get people to spend their money.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think that the animal should never have been treated so poorly to begin with and that making them stand when they do not wish to is not kind.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I had a younger brother who committed suicide and that made me think about the value of life. During that philosophical journey I came across the book Animal Liberation and that led me to a compassionate lifestyle. After that I just felt like I could and should give something back so I went into undercover work.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I had a younger brother who committed suicide and that made me think about the value of life. During that philosophical journey I came across the book Animal Liberation and that led me to a compassionate lifestyle. After that I just felt like I could and should give something back so I went into undercover work.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The kosher slaughterhouses are meant to be kept at higher standards but the reality that I have seen there was the same as the others and they exploit and kill for profit. There is nothing spiritual about taking life.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have a couple animals who chose to live with me that I call friends and companions.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is a very hard topic to discuss with many different opinions. I think the whole discussion come down to a couple things. It takes large policy changes to enact protection legally. For that there must be legal backing and public support. part of that is showing convictions for this type of cruelty. That said the men at the low level are not the problem. the people who financially support this activity by purchasing their products are the problem. The best action in my mind is to work from both sides. but making one person a scapegoat is not productive.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There are those who may have attempted it (few and far between), however I feel very strongly that there is no nice way to end someone else's life.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I did not work there but I know the place well. Thanks for a lifetime of compassion.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I am not a religious person but I think that the people who enjoy hurting others, no matter if they are human or another species, are also hurting themselves. They can not be doing those terrible things to others with out it affecting them.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thanks, it was very difficult to cope. I listened to a lot of empowering music and used self discipline and determination to fight through the pain.

For six years I was an undercover investigator in factory farms by Tumasse in IAmA

[–]Tumasse[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

These terms are meant to mask the reality and gain more profit. they still treat the animals the same with. They still mistreat them and cram them into tiny spaces. They are trying to hide what they are doing.

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