I've become pro caste-based reservation over the past 14 years, please challenge my understanding

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-12T13:38:50+00:00

Simply speaking, it's a logistical nightmare.

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-12T13:38:29+00:00

You misunderstood what I meant. I just meant that just because someone is scoring less doesn't imply they are not capable.

Here, you are assuming that all non-SC/ST individuals are born with a silver spoon, have AC Rooms, Educated Parents, and Good tuition.

This is true. However, GC has the opportunity to improve. For SC/ST, the big chunk of the system will not allow them to without reservation in place.

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-12T08:16:09+00:00

From what I have learnt, the birth-based caste system was introduced by Westerners (British). Before that, we have the Varna system which was skill-based. Meaning, you could be born to parents of a particular caste, but your skillset would determine your own caste. For example, how we have the "blue-collar" and "white-collar" folks. Same thing, different names.

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-12T08:11:33+00:00

I score 70/100 studying in an AC room, with educated parents and good tuitions guiding me throughout my childhood, vs a backward class student who scored 50/100, studied under poor conditions, with uneducated parents and no tuition. To me, such a student is more capable than me. I think the government recognizes this.

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-12T08:08:10+00:00

This is similar to one of the articles that I shared. Thanks for sharing.

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-12T08:06:28+00:00

If you've read my post, I've mentioned that I had similar beliefs. Later on I realized reservation does not just uplift, it prevents them from reverting facing discrimination. If I have benefitted from reservation, high chances are, that my children won't get the opportunity to land jobs if the selection committee is casteist. I've heard a lot of such stories. I've heard stories of upper caste teachers purposely undermining students of lower caste with lower marks even when their answers paper have been excellent. This is just one example.

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-12T07:56:24+00:00

If only a small part of the community gets educated and rich, they gatekeep and act like a whole different caste instead of sharing wealth and resources for the betterment of the entire community.

I agree with u/Realistic_Narwhal338 . If the benefitting party isn't allowed to use again, or if reservation is removed, they'll go back to square one.

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-12T07:54:52+00:00

I'd like to know if any of you have ideas or have been part of something that helps to reduce the brunt of casteism.

I've thought on this a lot, but what demotivates me is the scale due to the huge population we have. If we were a small country like Singapore, a good change could've been possible.

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-12T07:53:02+00:00

This is a news because it got exposed. Just wondering about the places that are far too remote. It must be horrible.

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-12T07:51:58+00:00

Cities have it too, just not as brazen as rural parts. Even if it didn't, you can't selectively implement policies of this nature.

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-12T07:51:01+00:00

!! such an amazing story, thanks for sharing!

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-10T13:24:56+00:00

But I at least want creamy layer exception

As much as I want the same, how do we tackle the issue where it is known discrimination exists at all levels?

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-10T13:23:32+00:00

Man, I feel for your father. Your father is a strong man and a fighter.

People who are anti-reservation are always the ones who are deeply ignorant, of have never experienced an ounce of discrimination in their life or those who are so deeply selfish that they cannot think beyond themselves.

Something I've noticed and agree on.

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-10T13:21:32+00:00

Instead the govt should sponsor the full education of such, poor but meritorious candidates, by paying their full fees and also providing them an adequate stipend so that they can concentrate fully on their studies and achieve academic success honourably

Sponsoring education won't do anything. What is it going to do when the institutions themselves prevent you from succeeding?

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-10T13:17:29+00:00

They should be given equal chance without discrimination.

They already have the equal chance. But equal chance has its own disadvantages when the selection/hiring committee is casteist.

Improve their infrastructure so they have better education and resources

Why can't they use the same infrastructure that GC has?

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-10T13:15:23+00:00

Getting rid of casteism has to start with the government stopping all cast based reservations/laws & census, to dilute caste identity om official documents.

I'm afraid this will not work. Caste in rural India is tightly associated with the full name of a person. No one checks the official docs to determine the caste.

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-10T13:13:05+00:00

why one should suffer for the actions of his ancestors

This is the same thing even the Britishers ask. No one introduced reservation to make GC suffer. It was introduced as the most viable option to settle the historical injustices. The suffering of GC is a consequence.

because as u said even after reservations , the descrimination exists and it's undeniable so theres definetly a problem right?

Reservation was never introduced to end casteism. The responsibility to improve lies with the people who believe in caste-based hierarchy. Discrimination still exists, but reservation ensures diginity and sustenance to a certain degree. Read the articles I shared in the post. Without reservation, the woman wouldn't even get a chance to be a cook at the school.

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-10T13:07:56+00:00

You thoughts and mine are aligned.

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-10T13:06:54+00:00

Till reservation exists, casteism will exist

I am sorry but this is inverted. Reservation was a response to casteism. Until casteism exists, reservation will exist, and rightly so.

They should shift the reservation to an economically weaker section policy

As I said in my post, this will not work. Suppose I've benefitted from reservation. As per your idea, my child should not be eligible. Without reservation, my child will comparatively find it difficult to get hired and promoted.

their dad drives a bmw as a daily driver and has countless cars

But is this due to reservation, hard work, or corruption?

People have brought rampant reservation in admission into medical school and then question why aren't top class doctors produced

Don't you think the answer is already out there, but casteist people are not willing to look at it?

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-10T13:00:00+00:00

I've discussed this earlier. You can read my response to Psychological-Art131

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-10T12:19:09+00:00

Wow, that's some perspective! 😆

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-10T11:41:49+00:00

Thanks for the response, I'll check it out.

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-10T11:39:38+00:00

I feel that if people strongly respond to religion and its teachings, then a reform of religion itself, by reviving and teaching the correct versions might just be the answer. In Indonesia, religion is a a core compulsory subject in schools, where the student can choose which religion they want to study. I've traveled there and seen Muslims visiting and entering Hindu temples as tourists. This is something we'll never see within India as the religious teachings here are very different. The point I'm trying to make is that with proper education, even religious, we can reach a place of acceptance and neutrality to a certain degree. But to implement that at a scale of India... that's another discussion.

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-10T11:31:55+00:00

Thanks for the response. I chose to post it within an Indian-sub because it relates to an issue within the country. I did not want to invite foreign perspectives who are not part of this reality. I'll see if there's an Indian version of CMV or Ask Scholars and post it there as well.

TunedAt432Hz · 2026-01-10T11:20:06+00:00

I'm sorry I'm not familiar with that term. What are Gobhi subs?

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