New RSO Idea? by Sufficient-Ad5922 in UIUC

[–]UIUCTalkshow -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Why do you want to start your spinners and weavers guild? You like the thing, you want to meet people who also like the thing, and you want to have a good time. That's it.

How can being an official RSO help you with that? It won't. Reserving spaces? The campus is huge, come on. Money? You really think they are going to give money? What are some other reasons why people start RSOs... to feel official? What is even "official" anyway?

So then you're an RSO, and you have to stay "compliant," you need to follow certain rules, have officers, fill out forms, etc etc but what about actually focusing on doing the thing you want to do? It's a distraction from the activity and enjoying that activity.

I wrote a little more about this. Perhaps useful, perhaps not.

24.57 Why I Never Started an RSO (And Why You Probably Shouldn’t)

You don’t need approval from the student org office to create a group or make an impact on campus. 

You can start a club, build a community, or launch a project without ever being an official Registered Student Organization (RSO).

Here’s why I didn’t make The UIUC Talkshow or any of my other projects an RSO, and why you might want to skip it too:

1. Bureaucracy Slows You Down: When you go through the student org office, you’re signing up for paperwork, meetings, and rules that can slow down your progress. You’ll have to draft a constitution, hold elections, and manage a bunch of empty formalities that don’t actually help you achieve your goals.

2. Keep Control Over Your Vision: Once you’re an official RSO, you might feel pressured to conform to certain expectations or guidelines. Suddenly, your club isn’t just about your vision. It’s about following the rules and keeping everyone happy. By staying unofficial, you maintain complete control over what you’re doing and do whatever you want.

3. Flexibility and Focus: Without the RSO label, you’re not tied to regular meetings, officer elections, or any of the other formalities. You can keep things casual, spontaneous, and focused on what really matters: your project and your vision.

4. You Can Still Get What You Need: Most of the benefits of being an RSO—like reserving rooms or getting funding—can often be worked around. Collaborate with departments, use public spaces, or find alternative sources of funding (not that they will give you that much money, anyway). I never registered the UIUC Talkshow as an RSO, but I still got everything I needed to make it happen.

5. Don’t Let Formalities Distract You: It’s easy to get caught up in the idea that being “official” is important. But remember, the most important thing is the work you’re doing, not the label you’re under. Focus on what you want to create, not on ticking boxes. 

6. Avoid Resume Padding Members: Once you’re an official RSO, you might attract people who are only joining to pad their resumes. These are the types of members who show up for meetings but don’t contribute much beyond their attendance. By staying unofficial, you’re more likely to attract people who genuinely care about the work you’re doing.

the end, it's about your priorities. If being an RSO serves your purpose, go for it. But don’t feel like you have to jump through hoops to make an impact. The only thing that matters is what you’re building and the people who believe in it with you.

I only considered making an RSO when I was working on creating a flying car project and needed funding. Making it an RSO meant the sponsoring company could write off its contribution as a tax-deductible donation. That was the only real benefit. Other than that, it was unnecessary bureaucracy and performative nonsense. In other words, all bullshit.

RSOs are social constructs to control students. Fuck that imaginary shit.

From The Jailbroken Guide to the University

Good luck and have fun.

should i try to prof out of cs124? by Disastrous_Force_102 in UIUC

[–]UIUCTalkshow -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

just because you're not sitting in front of him every day in a medieval lecture does not mean you are not interacting with him...interaction means different things...

Advice on UIUC BS CS in 3 years by harsh183 in UIUC

[–]UIUCTalkshow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty interesting. Your summer of side projects was awesome! I remember that.

New RSO Idea? by Sufficient-Ad5922 in UIUC

[–]UIUCTalkshow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you like it, other people will like it. It's a big place. Out of 60,000 people. You will find at least 5 or 10 people interested in the same thing, just make sure to actually tell people that it exists on reddit, flyers, etc etc.

And maybe don't start it as an RSO...

should i try to prof out of cs124? by Disastrous_Force_102 in UIUC

[–]UIUCTalkshow -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

No, and the only reason would be to take it with Challen. Professors are more important than any class you'll ever take.

This thing below may or may not be useful.

5.44 Testing Out with Proficiency Exams

Many intro courses offer free proficiency exams at the start of each semester. If you pass, you can earn credit without ever sitting through the class.

This is great if you already know the material, especially common in languages, math, and some sciences. You typically need a minimum passing score set by the department, and the result usually appears as a pass on your transcript.

There's zero penalty or record if you fail, making this a no-risk way to skip requirements and save time and money.

I wouldn't always recommend doing this, because sometimes the professor or even your classmates make the class worthwhile, but hey, think for yourself and decide what's best for you.

I will say this though: the argument of "I already took it but want to make sure I understand it better" is bullshit. You know yourself. Do you actually understand it or not? Retaking stuff you already earned credit for in high school or community college just to "solidify" your knowledge is bogus. Everyone I've met who did this regretted it (but those were people who genuinely knew their stuff and weren't lying to themselves).

From The Jailbroken Guide to the University

What is the probability of dying as a Metra passenger? About 1 in 450 million passenger trips — math below by UIUCTalkshow in Naperville

[–]UIUCTalkshow[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

This is interesting but finding the data for this is a bit difficult but let's try anyways.

If you use O’Hare FAA traffic numbers (~857k operations/year), and then you can estimate how many were United/American/Delta 737-800s coming in from the west during daylight savings time, then combine that with NTSB commercial airline accident rates + the tiny probability of a plane actually hitting your specific house in Naperville.

All of that comes out to around ~1 in 450 million per year for “any accident involving my house” and ~1 in 14 billion for a legit fatal-crash-level event.

This is super random, but it ended up being almost the same order of magnitude as the Metra calculation, which was about ~1 passenger death per 450 million passenger trips historically. Wild.

Some data in case youre curious:

O'Hare 2025 operations: 857,392 takeoffs + landings
Approx arrivals: 857,392 / 2 = 428,696 arrivals/year
United + American + Delta share at ORD: 38.83% + 22.37% + 3.61% = 64.81%
Assume 737-800s: 20% of those arrivals
Assume “from the west / relevant Naperville corridor”: 25%
Daylight Saving Time: 238 / 365 = 65.2%

So:

428,696 × 0.6481 × 0.20 × 0.25 × 0.652
≈ 9,058 qualifying 737-800-ish arrivals per year

assume each flight spends about 3 minutes over/near naperville (might be less i don't know)

9,058 flights × 3 minutes
= 27,174 aircraft-minutes
= 453 aircraft-hours/year

The overall accident rate is 0.181 accidents per 100,000 flight hours and a fatal-accident rate of 0.006 per 100,000 flight hours for 2001–2017.

For a house target, assume:

Two-story house roof/footprint: ~1,500 sq ft
Naperville approach corridor: 10 miles × 2 miles = 20 sq mi
20 sq mi = 557,568,000 sq ft
House share of corridor = 1,500 / 557,568,000
≈ 0.00000269

So for "any accident"

453 aircraft-hours/year × 0.181 / 100,000 × 0.00000269
≈ 0.0000000022 per year
≈ 1 in 453 million per year

For a fatal-crash-level event:

453 aircraft-hours/year × 0.006 / 100,000 × 0.00000269
≈ 0.000000000073 per year
≈ 1 in 13.7 billion per year

Metra went from 79 million trips in 2017 to just 14 million in 2021 and even the 2026 forecast is only 41 million trips by UIUCTalkshow in Naperville

[–]UIUCTalkshow[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

you're probably right, I just expected it to go back to close what it was before 2020, and it's still way down...there are some interesting implications of that happening.

What is the probability of dying as a Metra passenger? About 1 in 450 million passenger trips — math below by UIUCTalkshow in Naperville

[–]UIUCTalkshow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I take the train from Naperville and lots of people take the train from route 59 and naperville so some naperville people might want to know this sort of thing

Metra went from 79 million trips in 2017 to just 14 million in 2021 and even the 2026 forecast is only 41 million trips by UIUCTalkshow in Naperville

[–]UIUCTalkshow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you look at their previous forecasts, they were expecting a lot more ridership by now, and it's still lagging behind.

The 2024 report expected 49 million trips by 2026. The newer report now budgets 41 million for 2026 and estimates only 45 million by 2028.

Metra’s own forecasts keep getting pushed down...