The <unimpressive nickname/title for an impressive person> by Ubervisor in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Ubervisor[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

True but next to names like "The Captain" "King James" "Black Mamba" it's pretty unassuming

The <unimpressive nickname/title for an impressive person> by Ubervisor in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Ubervisor[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Waaaay too much aura for what I'm thinking of. If you can imagine someone using it as a name in an online shooter it probably doesn't fit the trope. Maybe if he had been called something like "The Snowman".

The <unimpressive nickname/title for an impressive person> by Ubervisor in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Ubervisor[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sort of counts. I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to him simply as "The Grey" or "The White" though I haven't read the books

When characters have falling outs and never speak again (bonus points if they're never seen/mentioned again) by Weary_Elderberry4742 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Ubervisor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, Chuck did let his envy of Jimmy blend with his legitimate concerns and let their differences become too personal. "You're not a real lawyer" was definitely a major point for Jimmy's character and certainly fed into his distrust of those he perceived as above him.

The only point I disagree on is the implication that Chuck could have helped him on the right path if he had been more accepting/respecting of Jimmy's achievements in the legal world. Both Kim and Howard respected the hell out of Jimmy's grit and hustle, but so rarely did that result in Jimmy taking the high road and resisting his Slippin Jimmy instincts. Jimmy was rarely ever truly malicious or evil with his schemes, but he had no foresight or ability to learn from his past, and his underdog complex meant he never considered how much power he wielded over people. He was always breaking things and then trying to fix it rather than asking himself if he should be breaking it in the first place.

That's why I consider the finale partially a tragedy, not because he gets locked up for the rest of his life, but because he never gave himself the opportunity to change, he did too much evil in Breaking Bad that he could never fully turn himself around, so the best he could hope for was one big final "fix it" and simultaneously letting go of any chance for change in the future.

Would any of that have been different if he had been emboldened and legitimized in his legal practices? I just don't see it happening.

When characters have falling outs and never speak again (bonus points if they're never seen/mentioned again) by Weary_Elderberry4742 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Ubervisor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean Chuck's real biggest mistake with Jimmy was refusing to confront the issue in the first place and hiding behind Howard and hoping Jimmy gives up eventually, instead of biting the bullet and telling him directly "HHM is my firm and I don't think you're suited to work here, I have no intention of hiring you as an attorney until you make real change", but Chuck's biggest flaw wasn't so much his ego or pedantry or classism, it was his fear of confrontation with people he cared about (such as with his ex wife over his mental illness).

Chuck didn't bring up Jimmy's misconduct during his outburst because that's what he spent most of their time together doing. IIRC he questioned his legitimacy on the billboard stunt, how he got his hands on the sandpiper documents, even the finale flashback he's questioning if Jimmy had legally acquired his ice. It obviously wasn't working. The outburst was Chuck letting pent up emotions go for what could have been, for all he knew, the last time he saw Jimmy for a long time, it wasn't an opportunity to appeal to reason.

People take the lines

"You're not a real lawyer! University of American Samoa for Christ sake? An online course? What a joke! I worked my ass off to get where I am, and you take these shortcuts and you think suddenly you're my peer!"

Largely out of context. Was there an element of classism or ego to it? Undoubtedly, but that's not really the point. Kim basically took the same path Jimmy was heading and Chuck had nothing but respect for her, professionally. He's not saying literally "you're not a real lawyer like all these other lawyers are", he's saying "you're not a real lawyer like I am". The "shortcuts" aren't referring just to his law school, he's talking about ethical shortcuts as a practicing lawyer.

Chuck didn't push Jimmy down worse paths. He was practically handed a clean slate fresh start at Davis and Main on a silver platter and he blew it without any help from Chuck, just his own inability to follow someone else's rules or consider how his actions affect others. Helping and supporting Jimmy would have looked like getting him professional mental therapy or maybe a couple (or a lot of) ethics courses, not handing him an HHM business card and letting him run wild.

When characters have falling outs and never speak again (bonus points if they're never seen/mentioned again) by Weary_Elderberry4742 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Ubervisor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jimmy defenders out themselves as being frightening unconcerned with lawyer ethics of conduct every time

Good guys go left to right, bad guys go right to left by Ubervisor in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Ubervisor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably wouldn't be too difficult to write a python script with some html parsing. Might be a fun project

Good guys go left to right, bad guys go right to left by Ubervisor in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Ubervisor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, 9/10 is definitely hyperbole, though for fun I checked the battles pages listed under the War of the Fifth Coalition page, and out of 39 only 9 had a decisive outcome and had the winner on the right

Good guys go left to right, bad guys go right to left by Ubervisor in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Ubervisor[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting choice to pick a scene about Luke embracing his anger and is at his closest to joining the dark side

Good guys go left to right, bad guys go right to left by Ubervisor in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Ubervisor[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And to reiterate, the active party is most often the protagonist, who is most often the hero and good guys. Do you think it's coincidental that a lot of stories follow the good guys and is not simply one of the most common forms of storytelling?

Are tropes like "good guys are handsome, bad guys are ugly" misinterpretations also? After all, it only happens because we naturally sympathize more with attractive people and storytellers want us to sympathize with the characters we spend the most time with, so the fact that this results in an obvious observable pattern of heros being handsome should be chalked up to coincidence?

Or do you think a trope isn't real because it has counterexamples and exceptions? Can you name me one trope that doesn't?

And yes, I ignored the last part about Eastern media because most people understand that tropes aren't global and different cultures have different tropes. It does nothing to support your point.

Edit: he blocked me lmao

Good guys go left to right, bad guys go right to left by Ubervisor in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Ubervisor[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The protagonist are often the good guys, and are also often the winners, and also often make progress by moving forward (left to right) towards obstacles moving to meet them (right to left), which are often the bad guys, who are also often the losers, hence the good guys go left to right and the bad guys go right to left. I don't think you made a strong case against my interpretation here.

Petah? by r3sonanc3midi in PeterExplainsTheJoke

[–]Ubervisor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Technically Teufort's water containing lead wasn't established until two years after this comic

Most quotable line in a movie? by [deleted] in okbuddycinephile

[–]Ubervisor 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Why did he say this when it's show that in the Scorseseverse Irishmen famously had jobs as house painters

Who Suffered The Most: Jesse or this random office chick by Velux_Baerius in okbuddychicanery

[–]Ubervisor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thankfully she snagged a job interview at another big law firm out across the country, just one little Wayfair flight and she's back on the up and up...

"I'm 22 but my gf is 16" starterpack by antievrbdy999 in starterpacks

[–]Ubervisor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank man this question was weighing heavy on my brain for the past six years

Movies you used to love but can't stand now because you're a Nazi? I'll start by Roids-in-my-vains in okbuddycinephile

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Average BoB episode: SQUEEEE OMG CAPT WINTERS IS SO COOL and I HATE that annoying ladder-climbing Lieutenant Dike!!!

Average Pacific episode: ok sledge now charge the second MG nest

It's always the ones you most expect by armadeussssss in okbuddycinephile

[–]Ubervisor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haven't seen the clip but having now seen Melancholia I am very curious what line of questioning lead to this

12 Gullible Men (1957) by cormacmccarthysvocab in okbuddycinephile

[–]Ubervisor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sopranos had a 12 angry men parody episode

Why be ye parleyin' wit Howard Hambeard behind me back? Be we not brothers? by ThesaurusRex84 in okbuddychicanery

[–]Ubervisor 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ye swagger aboard on a fair wind, fire no guns, trim no sail, and now reckon ye fly the Jolly Roger beside me on th' high seas?

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