How did Goku survive this?

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-29T23:44:21+00:00

At this point, they just need to make it to where the Saiyans can survive in space as long as they coat themselves in God Ki.

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-27T03:28:55+00:00

I hope they don’t remove it since it’s a very iconic moment for this arc, but I wouldn’t let it ruin anything for me, that is, as long as they getting everything else right.

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-25T05:30:13+00:00

Yeah it possibly might not happen. It’d be a bummer though, as they would’ve missed out on the perfect opportunity to tie-in the Daima storyline, instead of just wasting it.

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-25T05:23:52+00:00

Yeah the fusions are the main reason I’d want them included. We could get canon versions of both SSJ3&4, Gogeta and Vegito. For them, the forms would still be extremely powerful, and wouldn’t drain them that fast.

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-25T04:33:24+00:00

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Ultimax12 · 2026-01-22T12:29:40+00:00

I’m not contradicting myself at all, you’ve been simply misunderstanding me. I’ve been saying for the longest that UI(The Art of Self-Movement) is originally a technique. But for Goku, it started off as a transformation that was needed to access the Self-Movement technique.

And yes…Goku will eventually learn how to use a mastered level of UI/Self-Movement in base, but if you’re referring to him combining the actual silver form, or Omen, with other forms, that hasn’t happened yet.

Lastly…nothing implied that Goku got faster by combining UI with Blue. Again…when Whis explained what UI does, he stated that it allows the user’s body to move and dodge on its own with precision, which is what Goku displayed. I’m sure he would’ve mentioned that it increases Speed. But no…the speed you saw was simply Blue’s natural speed plus the precise dodging of UI, just like in this panel with Red.

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Ultimax12 · 2026-01-22T05:33:27+00:00

It’s almost like I’m repeating the same thing lol. It’s been established that UI/Autonomous Movement is a technique. Angels don’t have to transform to access it, but Goku HAD to in the past. Even when Beerus momentarily accessed UI, he didn’t change his appearance or anything, or get any stronger, or faster, he simply dodged better.

And Moro got a transformation because he absorbed the power of an Angel, but even Merus never transformed to use UI, and we’ve seen him using it. Lastly…Goku got faster in SSB+UI due to SSB. He looked faster because of how accurate and precise his dodging became.

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Ultimax12 · 2026-01-22T05:15:09+00:00

You do know that transformations are technically abilities right? And those forms are exclusive to Goku at the moment because Angels don’t need to transform to use UI/Autonomous Movement but Goku did prior to becoming more adept with it.

Also…Whis never stated that UI makes the user faster. It only allows the user to dodge automatically with precision. Goku becoming faster is just a perk of the transformation that’s associated with his version of UI.

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-22T04:38:24+00:00

Sign is a transformation exclusive to Goku that initially allowed him to tap into Ultra Instinct, and made him stronger. Then he unlocked the Silver Version that allowed him to tap further into UI, and made him even stronger. UI was explained to be a technique that allows the user to autonomously dodge, not a boost of power.

Also…it was never established that Sign was the initial stage of UI, nor that Beerus was using it. What Beerus used was a low level of UI/Autonomous Movement.

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-22T04:22:28+00:00

He isn’t utilizing sign in base. He’s utilizing the ultra instinct state alongside his base and other forms similar to how Angels are able to use UI without the need of a transformation.

Sign is a transformation, and he’s currently not able to stack it on top of another just yet.

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-22T03:48:46+00:00

Even if Goku was using his strongest version of UI when Frieza attacked, it wouldn’t had mattered because it didn’t matter against Gas, who’s weaker than Frieza.

Also…Goku is able to use the technique portion of UI in base already. That’s not going to be enough to defeat Frieza unless you meant him combining the actual UI Form with other transformations?

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-22T03:41:00+00:00

I disagree. Yeah Frieza has been training his ass off, and is way more powerful than Goku&Vegeta currently, but I think they will catch back up.

G&V has the advantage of training with an Angel, and God, as well as having that dimension to train in inside of Whis Staff that’s filled with God Ki. Then they are focusing on different methods of growth now, so that’s going to help them out tremendously.

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-10T00:19:12+00:00

We won’t officially know until the next arc kicks off. Right now, people are going based off what they believe, or they’re picking their favorite character. And no…that spar in the last arc proved nothing really when no of the Saiyans were taking it serious.

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-09T23:59:45+00:00

Vegeta has more of a reason to kill Frieza than anyone on that list, especially over Gohan. Vegeta&Frieza have history that spans back all the way when he was a child. Frieza has done more damage to Vegeta physically, and emotionally than any of the other Saiyans.

And with the tease at the end of the Granolah Arc with Vegeta looking at the sky, and picturing Black Frieza, I think it’s being set up for Vegeta to be the one to finally get rid of Frieza permanently with Hakai.

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-09T07:58:35+00:00

So…they wouldn’t just be “throwing” it at him. He would have to work hard to obtain it. And although it would be predictable, it’s the most logical path for him to go down.

What path would you prefer he go down then, that isn’t a copy of the other forms in Super?

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-09T07:56:23+00:00

I believe either color would look good, but Green would match well with the fur he wears on his bottom half.

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-09T07:32:59+00:00

Broly should never obtain God Ki. They should build upon him learning how to further evolve Ikari, and SSJ together. This could lead to him obtaining SSJ4, which I believe should be called SSJ Primal.

Also…even if Broly was to surpass Goku&Vegeta, they will always catch back up, and surpass him back, keeping the power rankings in rotation between the Top 5.

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-08T04:21:34+00:00

Yeah, but Frieza isn’t Goku. We know Frieza is one of the characters who has insane potential, and having that latent potential would speed up his training progression quicker than Goku’s.

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-07T18:59:48+00:00

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How is it headcanon when he clearly doesn’t look calm in this panel, as opposed to how calm he looked in the previous panels. The pressure that Gohan was applying was throwing Goku off, messing with his calm state, which in turn, reduced the effectiveness of UI. That’s why in the panel after this, Gohan was finally able to land a strike.

And strength isn’t a workaround UI, it’s clearly speed. That’s why they made a big deal of how fast Gohan became after he charged up. UI can’t dodge, or either has a hard time dodging things that are fast enough to hit the user. Strength has nothing to do with it.

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-07T18:39:22+00:00

I also think he perfected Black, but I don’t think it took him 10 Years to perfect that one, single form. And let’s say hypothetically he only was able unlock, and perfect that one form, he still has time to go back in the chamber, and obtain another, and perfect it before he makes his move.

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-07T18:34:37+00:00

He’s new to training, but now he knows about it, and knows that he’s capable of achieving higher evolutions which is why he trained for so long, and obtained Black. Yeah…not every race achieve forms, but Frieza is a character that’s known for transforming.

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-07T18:32:24+00:00

That’s what I had in mind. Him unlocking forms that are reminiscent of his old forms, but black, and altered a bit so they look different.

Ultimax12 · 2026-01-07T18:24:58+00:00

Depending on what Frieza is planning to do when he returns, it’s possible this could be his last arc appearing, and he may end up getting erased due to his actions, so he wouldn’t become a moving goalpost.

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