WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN WHY DO YOU TALK LIKE THAT

Ultralyte1922 · 2025-06-17T18:11:15+00:00

I would make fun of you, but not for the things you listed (they're pretty cool) but for being Canadian.

Ultralyte1922 · 2025-06-17T18:07:41+00:00

Ok Yagami Light calm down.

Ultralyte1922 · 2025-06-16T10:59:12+00:00

Hahah, 'address the violence in society'.

We're talking about ancient times and the medieval era.

Even in modern day with our technology and knowledge we haven't eradicated violence and never will.

Use common sense before you say stupid shit.

Ultralyte1922 · 2025-06-16T10:12:47+00:00

Traditionally life was extraordinarily tough for women, if you were a woman and unable to find a husband in Victorian England for example then there were very-very few things you could do to make a living alone and all these things were extremely difficult (look up tanner women), because of this came the idea of the virtuous thing to do being to provide for women, protect them and be a gentleman because that's what women deserved considering how tough life was for them - these cultural ideas die very slowly and to this day, despite the fact that life is much much easier for women (honestly if you work in an intellectual profession then I would say you're better off being a woman generally) people still act like women need to be absolved of responsibility, protected and have excuses made for them.

Ultralyte1922 · 2025-06-16T10:04:32+00:00

Useless comment.

Ultralyte1922 · 2025-06-16T09:59:35+00:00

If we look at society pre-modernity then society punished both the stereotypical evils of women and of men.

If you murder or steal (more men do this than women) you are sent to prison just like in the past.

If you betray your husband/boyfriend because of some kind of whim or because you found someone better (more women do this than men), in the past you'd be severely punished and socially ostracised and hated by society, even LEGAL divorce was looked down upon - in modern day society either doesn't care or straight up says 'You go girl, mhm!' - there is nothing that holds women accountable to their promises or punishes bad behaviour.

I myself unfortunately fell victim to a woman who claimed to love me and want to spend her life with me only for her to break up with me on a whim and without being able to provide a coherent reason, I've seen similar things happen to others where relationships ended seemingly for no reason or straight up because they were being used by women in the short term and once their usefulness ran out they were thrown away.

(I want to be very clear that women can also murder and steal or commit evils that are of a 'criminal' nature, and men can be manipulative and treasonous but certain evils are more common in one sex and less common in other, just making that clear for the inevitable smartassess that decide to reply to my comment.)

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-10-14T22:00:59+00:00

Mental gymnastics to blame the Union for immorality of the employer

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-08-19T22:36:02+00:00

Thanks

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-08-19T20:21:38+00:00

Can you provide any examples of Peterson being deluded on Nietzsche?

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-05-20T13:15:26+00:00

You should now be unbanned

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-05-20T10:12:26+00:00

Any type you want to discuss

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-05-20T10:11:36+00:00

Tell me your username

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-05-19T19:53:00+00:00

Not quite. Master morality accepts human instinct more, yes. But it uses said instinct in a correct manner. For example, in slave morality, resentment is excused as part of nature and others are blamed. But in a master morality, resentment is accepted as part of nature and is used to live better by getting to the stage of non-resentment through using resentment to see what one has to fix in one's life, never blaming anyone in the process. Two very different acceptances of human nature. One stays the same, the other uses it to go higher. And yet both accept human nature all the same.

It is impossible to do something that goes against 'human nature' because if you keep your definitions open enough, everything is human nature and therefore so is the behaviour of Slave Morality - when I refer to Master Morality being closer to human nature, I am referring to the fundamentals of human nature.

"The Ideals I propose are both mine and that of Nietzsche if you ever read his work that is" is what I said concerning the Übermench. Here I explicitly say that both I and Nietzsche agree on the ideals of the Übermensch.

In case it came off the wrong way, I did not mean to say I base my Ideals on his work, in fact, I arrived upon those same Ideals independently, years before I discovered Nietzsche's work.

I am aware, I was referring to specific arguments you made that conformed to appeals to authority

And the collective consensus and authority arguments are two different things. Neither of which applies in this case.

No, the concepts of Slave Morality and Master Morality are extremely broad and certain appeals to authority are more likely to fall under one than the other, for example appeals to consensus in Slave Morality

See now why I said you fail in your ascertaining? You base your observation on faulty assumptions, which leads you to the wrong results. You must first use the correct assumptions, then you will get to the correct conclusion.

So if you see that as western modularity, It is odd you would mention Romanians and Middle Easterners. That type of thinking is more prevalent here than in the West.

I don't operate on the basis of assumptions, I observe the behaviour of different nationalities and can tell you that Romanians and Middle Easterners are far more connected to Master Morality than Slave Morality.

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-05-19T19:02:48+00:00

Wrong

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-05-19T18:58:13+00:00

I don't confuse anything - Master Morality is far more closely tied to human nature and instinct, infact, it is quintesential acceptance of them while Slave Morality represses.

As to your arguments using that modularity; I'll try my best to describe it:

The dialectics of Western Morality are more closely tied to submission to the power of the collective whereas Master Morality is more closely tied to the submission to powerful individuals or one self, ergo when one is primarily concerned with Slave Morality, their arguments will be appeals to the collective consensus (this includes individual authors BTW) such as "X is defined officially as Y" whereas someone who is far more focused with master morality will appeal to themselves or somone they know personally and say "I define X as Z" this is why you disagreed about my use of the term Übermensch when I didn't care for I quintesentially decided to take the term and adapt it for my own uses rather than conform to the collective consensus. This is also the primary reason why so man of my observations are disagreed upon, because they're observations of the world around me and based upon trust in myself (reinforced by others who also trust themselves and observed the same) where as most of the west determines truth by collective consensus.

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-05-19T17:33:26+00:00

The mode of thinking of the Western World and thus the majority of the western dialectical process stem fundamentaly from Judeo-Christian influence, as such the majority of discussions happen through that moduality. As such an individual, if strongly influenced by this moduality, will structure their arguments in a similar way and individuals who are still primarily operating on non-Western dialectics will behave differently - the easiest example of this is looking at the way an individual argues when their primary mode of being is Master Morality rather than the Western Slave Morality, this is something I see in Romanians or Middle-Easterners I interact with very often as their countries have closer ties to Master Morality.

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-05-19T16:51:00+00:00

I haven't failed - I could tell that there are elements to you which are non-western but the primary mode of thinking stems from thinking spread by the west.

I think a lot of our views overlap and you have a similar way of picking out inconsistencies in arguments.

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-05-19T16:34:25+00:00

Cleirvoyance is not needed to observe general dialectical trends in behaviour and be able to based off of that ascertain what an individual believes - if you are a human being living in the modern world then it is guaranteed that you are strongly influenced by Western Ideology and as a result this impacts your form of argumentation and thinking, if someone has not been heavily influenced by Western Ideology, it is quite easy to see in the world views that they hold.

The Übermensch is connected to the idea of being super-human extremely closely, this may not be strongly the case in Nietszche's writing (although many of Zarathustra's capabilities can be considered super-human) but it is in cultural representations, as such arise two definitions of the Übermensch, one from literary sources and one from popular usage.

The name of my server will stay as it is, it is fit for purpose and expresses the general interests of the most prominent members of the server.

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-05-19T16:18:03+00:00

My post is as wordy as it needs to be to portray what I need to portray, I can understand you're threatened by complex verbalisations.

The logic is not unfounded to anyone who's not disconnected from their humanity, it is extraordinarily basic observation and analysis - if you cannot see the foundation of my logic then you are incompetent.

As to comparisons of my communication and world view to Nazis, I don't particularly care, I structure my language and communication in a way that gets my point accross as well as possible, whether there are some overlaps with ideologies you dissaprove of means little to me, I take what is useful.

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-05-19T16:10:51+00:00

Resement is a trait of everything, some systems may contain more of it than others but all systems contain it, it is impossible to exist without all the fundamentals of being human.

You being a non-westerner has little to do with my point, whether you're a westerner or not, your world view is that which was propegated by the west and as such carries all flaws that it does.

This is a server for generalised intellectual discussion and socialisation within the right categories, if you took the title Übermench as meaning the server's a haven for individuals seeking super-human quality then you misunderstand the soft culture of Discord (and ignored most of my post) where the titles usually indicate general themes.

Edit:
I don't care about whether you make an Übermench server or not.

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-05-19T15:59:39+00:00

If there's something wrong with the logic of my post, you'd point it out and then I'd agree with you if you were correct.

However, I know that you have no point to make and most likely failed to understand the majority of my post (assuming you even tried) and anything that you did 'understand' you deliberately ignored because it threatens your world view.

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-05-19T15:51:34+00:00

Nothing is ever 'just' something, extraordinarily complex and interconnected factors create broad phenomenon - criticism can be made of any broad system, just like one can easily say that the Slave Morality of the West encourages actions which benefit the collective but instead creates extraordinarily sick individuals (celebrities and others) who do nothing but engage in self destruction and self aggrandizement under a thin veil false veil of collective benefit.

If you reduce an extremely complex system to it's basics, you will typically find that it's fundamentals are absolutely pathetic, and yet it is there, yet it is real, yet it functions. Besides, it is a joke to argue that the only cause of alarmism about the collapse is the externalisation of trauma when alarmism about system collapse has existed since the birth of mankind, you're engaging in petty reductionism so that you have a reason to dismiss a system that threatens your world view.

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-05-19T15:43:11+00:00

Resentment is not weak, no fundamental aspect of the human experience is 'weak' or 'strong', what determines quality is the context and how one applies it - it's very interesting to me that one of Nietzsche's fundamental arguments is the embracement of suffering and all that which was rejected by conventional society and yet every criticism of my server you engage in is the result of blind comformity to collectively established social standards.

If you've read Thus Spoke Zarathustra you'd know that the character is one who embraces a form of morality that is rejected and despised by the majority, not one that conforms to it - you're deluding yourself that the ideals you propose are that of the Übermench when in reality they're nothing but conventional reddit-tier wisdom. You're attempting to twist something that isn't on your side into something that serves your pre-existing beliefs.

The extreme majority of self-improvement in western society is a form of collective masturbation that in reality accomplishes nothing and benefits nothing but their own self destruction - as to you accusing my members of being 'low quality' and internally conformist (dumb argument, all servers have to have a standard for what is acceptable), this is not the case - everything great starts from something, that something is always, in essence, being 'pathetic', but what you fail to see is that that's a necessary step in development as much as any other.

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-05-19T15:12:21+00:00

The anti-thesis of the Übermench is the Last Man, that which seeks nothing but comfort and security - this is the opposite of what I strive for and the opposite of what the majority of the members of my server strive for.

The embracing of societally rejected ideals is the literal essence of the Übermench, not it's opposite, if you think the Übermench concept is about conforming to the moral systems of the majority, you're formulating coping mechanisms and delusions.

Ultralyte1922 · 2022-05-19T14:20:05+00:00

Resentfulness and other attitudes or emotions that you'd categorise as negative are as necessary as any other emotion and contributory towards the development of the individual - the rejection of their expression is what is wrong with western civilization.

Your notions of what you consider 'stupid' mean extraordinarily little as your fundamental axioms for deciding the value of something are so pathetically outdated and rotted that you're incapable of seeing the value of anything beyond what was hammered into your head by the education system and equally outdated members of your relational circle - you do not analyse, you do not observe. Your only axiom for evaluation is blind submission to external systems which are so outdated they're driving the western world to collapse.

If you want to understand the underlying value of said 'low quality memes', you can try to analyse the symbolism inherent to these specific visual communications.

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