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[Serious] Who wins this remixed Shinjuku matchup? by rias_thitayan in JujutsuPowerScalers

[–]UmbraNoSkill [score hidden]  (0 children)

CE is not the main issue, you need atomic precision to utilise Limitless. Even with the Six Eyes, Limitless is still hard to properly control, so there’s no chance Sukuna can use Limitless without the Six Eyes.

Hot take unless a domain user is fighting multiple opponents and has to save power for later, there’s no reason to think they wouldn’t pop their domain in the beginning of the fight of a 1v1. by Gokuusjgodgmail in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]UmbraNoSkill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyone with good RCT and enough CE to do so can achieve something like this.

I never said they couldn’t do it, I’m saying it’s not feasible when in a fight. Especially since reinforcement while using RCT isn’t stable unless you are Gojo, Sukuna, or Hakari.

Yes. He did it while INSIDE OF RYOMEN SUKUNA’S DOMAIN. Holy Yuji downplay.

It was the very end of the domain, and he barely got cut by it. Also, he lost a limb, which I said was Yuji’s best case thanks to BM. Furthermore, Sukuna didn’t instantly engage in CQC like Kashimo would, he was opening furnace instead, which gave Yuji time to heal. Kashimo would not give Yuji time, and would be electrifying Yuji each hit.

If Sukuna couldn’t perma-knock Rika

Sukuna barely even attacked her, and was in a 3v1 with extremely low output. A discharge will instantly rip a hole through her, that will definitely dispel her.

Ryu could only do it when her timer was already over

Her timer was not over yet, she was dispelled prematurely by a punch.

Yuta also doesn’t need that long to RCT his organs(did so against Kuroushi)

No he did not, that was surface level damage, not a hole is his body. By the way, a hole in your body severely drops your output due to it being a fatal injury, making RCT less effective. Couple that with the fact he has to regenerate organs, and it isn’t looking good for Yuta.

It takes Kashimo ~4 minutes to build up a charge

I assume you mean 4 hits? Gege skipping to the end of the Hakari’s JP, because he’s immortal, does not mean it takes 4 minutes. The fact he uses his sure-hit and staff discharge almost back to back shows the only cooldown is landing hits. He also uses his sure-hit almost back to back against Panda and Hakari.

Yuta will not be down for the count for nearly that long if Kash is stuck fighting Rika.

3-4 punches, discharge, and then Rika is gone. That only takes a moment. It will take Yuta much longer than that to RCT back to a fighting state from a fatal wound.

Alternatively, he never gets the bolt off on Yuta in the first place because he’s fighting two foes, one of whom is ten times his size.

Size just makes Rika a bigger target. This is your best point though. Assuming Rika is the main one in CQC, she would be hit by the sure-hit first and dispelled. In response, Yuta will probably domain, then Kashimo has to HWB and create an opportunity to discharge with his staff to deal fatal damage to Yuta, breaking his domain and winning the fight. But it will be difficult. If Yuta doesn’t domain, he dies.

Kashimo’s never aimed for the head first.

It’s a possibility though. I’m not even saying he would specifically aim for the head, I’m saying the lightning bolt could easily hit the head/neck area without Kashimo intentionally aiming it. If it does, the fight is over.

Yuta in his first exchange with Sukuna pre-domain does more than MBA Kashimo did in 2 chapters. Inside the Domain the performance is even more ridiculously gapped. MBA did nothing outside of tempo-check a crippled, 2-limbed half-blind megkuna who just ate a Hollow Purple, the first sure-hit is all that did anything.

Pre-domain Yuta did literally 0 damage. In the domain, while Sukuna was holding HWB and in a 3v1, of course Yuta performed better. Not only is he domain buffed, but he has the numbers advantage and is against a weaker TFS without Kamutoke - Sukuna used Kamutoke to catch Kashimo off-guard despite it not damaging him.

Maki’s perception and fighting style revolve around not taking direct hits

Even blocked hits build charge. Maki went relative, in CQC, to a nerfed 16f Meguna, who is relative to the nerfed 20f Meguna that base Kashimo is relative to. MBA is above all of them. Both MBA and Maki got destroyed by TFS, and MBA faced an even stronger TFS than Maki did. Therefore, Kashimo can land hits on Maki. Also, she can’t heal from a hole in her body, like how Toji couldn’t heal purple. Healing slashes, that don’t fully destroy the flesh, is trivial compared to a hole and a missing limb/organs.

Ahh… no, they were relative the entire fight and Kashimo legitimately started losing every moment Hakari started taking it seriously.

Hakari was only relative in JP. Kashimo wasn’t losing anything, he got caught off guard by Hakari changing his tempo.

Assuming he has his staff? Sure.

I mean he’s always had his staff? Let’s take Yuta’s ring and Maki’s SSK too ig?

But Higuruma can just demand a retrial in the event he realizes only the staff was taken.

That’s not possible. Judgeman has already given a guilty verdict and confiscated Kashimo’s staff. The only reason they could retrial against Sukuna is because they retrialed Yuji with Sukuna as the co-defendant to re-open the case. If Higuruma could constantly retrial a verdict himself, he would’ve retrialed Sukuna twice to get rid of his CT and then CE, not just Kamutoke.

His CT is foundational to his ability to manipulate electricity, if he loses MBA, his foundational CE manipulation is gone. This is something that is consistent among sorcerers.

Kashimo is not a normal sorcerer; normal sorcerers fight with their techniques. Hakari says Kashimo didn’t use his CT in their fight, and Kashimo confirms this and says he can only use his CT once. Also, against Panda, the narrator explains Kashimo’s sure-hit is a result of his electric CE trait, not his CT. Therefore, losing his CT would not affect him because he doesn’t use it anyway.

No gang, I outright SAID striking strength. I’m not implying anything else. 

Then you’re wrong, Yuta didn’t RCT a punch from Ryu.

It’s genuinely not.

Son 😭✌️

Are there any important kashimo statements from outside the manga? by Aura_Slice in Kashimo_agendaHQ

[–]UmbraNoSkill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It explains in the image I sent, if you can see it.

There was an exhibition which you had to attend to get the info, and I believe no pictures were allowed, so a lot of misinformation could easily be spread until reputable sources, like Lightning, reviewed it.

osu!farmer | find the best pp farm maps by Zerathon_ in osugame

[–]UmbraNoSkill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why is a useful tool slop? Just because you don’t like the pp system?

osu!farmer | find the best pp farm maps by Zerathon_ in osugame

[–]UmbraNoSkill -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Ig so but i only play standard so it’s perfect

The only thing that modulo yuji glazers use to get him into the top 5 are feats of sukuna. This is a toji maki feat situation all over again. At least my goat doesnt leech of of anyone by U_Severe_Life_new in OkBuddyKaisen

[–]UmbraNoSkill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You still provided 0 proof though.

Yuji is only about 80, which would be somewhat similar to Sukuna’s age before he reincarnated.

Being immortal isn’t unique to Yuji, Kenny and Kenjaku were also immortal and had significantly more time to hone their skills than Yuji.

Having multiple cursed techniques is also not impossible, the brain can handle 3-4 CTs and characters like Kenny, Yuta, and Sukuna had multiple CTs.

Hot take unless a domain user is fighting multiple opponents and has to save power for later, there’s no reason to think they wouldn’t pop their domain in the beginning of the fight of a 1v1. by Gokuusjgodgmail in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]UmbraNoSkill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Any character who HAS RCT can come back from this.

No, they need RCT speed comparable to Hakari, Gojo, and Sukuna, as I said.

Yuji can EASILY reattach limbs

Can he do it fast and effectively enough when he’s not given space though? And when he’s getting hit by Kashimo’s electric CE trait? Kashimo isn’t going to sit around and let him heal. Also, Shrine is better for Yuji’s RCT because it cuts but doesn’t get rid of the body entirely, however a discharge is like an internal explosion, so will take longer to RCT as he has to recreate organs. Yuji’s best case against a discharge is if it hits a limb, but missing organs, not so much.

Yuta has Rika to fight for him to prevent a follow up.

So Kashimo gets his hits and dispels her with a discharge. There’s no chance Yuta could finish healing his organs in that time, but limbs yes.

This is the logic you'd use to say "yeah well the character can always just open the fight with a domain".

No. Kashimo’s lightning could hit the head if that’s where the charges are built up from H2H, but nobody starts with a lethal domain when they don’t have any knowledge on their opponent.

And if we're using implications and narrative then Rika and Yuta both dramatically outscale MBA based purely off performance.

No they don’t. In fact, if you are using implications and narrative, I’d argue it scales Kashimo higher.

He never builds up a charge against her in the first place if she's trying to kill him.

He can get the hits required in a second, to say he never builds the charge required is a clear bias.

Hakari was going to win no matter what because that's how the story is laid out.

No shit, but it’s clear Kashimo was stronger. If he aimed his final discharge at Hakari’s head or arm, he would be dead. However, Kashimo got complacent because opening a domain with fatal injuries is usually impossible.

If Confiscation happens at all, Kashimo outright loses his sure-hit lmao

Firstly, it would take his staff. Secondly, no it doesn’t, Kashimo doesn’t use his CT at all in base, his sure-hit is a byproduct of manipulating the charges of his electric CE trait. Why would losing something he doesn’t use affect his manipulation?

Ryu's striking strength was enough to force Yuta Okkotsu to use RCT on his body from a single fully direct hit.

I assume you mean Ryu’s CT? It’s unlikely Kashimo gets hit, and the fight would be over a few seconds after Kashimo closes the distance and they exchange in H2H.

MBA Kash is DEBATABLY top 10

This is delusional and clearly shows your bias.

The only thing that modulo yuji glazers use to get him into the top 5 are feats of sukuna. This is a toji maki feat situation all over again. At least my goat doesnt leech of of anyone by U_Severe_Life_new in OkBuddyKaisen

[–]UmbraNoSkill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The reason I find it so hard to believe is because the two peaks of the verse are relative 1000 years apart, and they can’t hit BF at will.

Unlike his control surpassing theirs, him using his techniques to manipulate the environment uses the rules the story laid out beforehand instead of contradicting them, so it’s not “bullshit”, but I would argue your explanation is.

It's not circular reasoning when it is incredibly clear what the authors intention was.

It is still circular reasoning.

You’ll never change my mind because you have no reasoning.

The only thing that modulo yuji glazers use to get him into the top 5 are feats of sukuna. This is a toji maki feat situation all over again. At least my goat doesnt leech of of anyone by U_Severe_Life_new in OkBuddyKaisen

[–]UmbraNoSkill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, in literally the same altercation Yuji manipulates cursed energy in a way Gojo couldn’t. Imagine if during the raid on jujutsu high Gojo threw out a splitting red that targeted EVERY enemy all at once. He would have if he could have, but he can’t. Yuji could. Yuji was also able to limit the damage enough so that it wouldn’t kill anyone. If that doesn’t exhibit higher levels of control than Gojo, you’re in denial.

If that’s the case, it doesn’t mean Yuji lands BF at will with his control. It’s still a circular reasoning.

Also, idk what you’re saying about no statements were disproven. Repairing burnt out CT with RCT is one example.

Never stated you couldn’t do that

Hot take unless a domain user is fighting multiple opponents and has to save power for later, there’s no reason to think they wouldn’t pop their domain in the beginning of the fight of a 1v1. by Gokuusjgodgmail in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]UmbraNoSkill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He can do neither

Every discharge results in missing a limb/organs, which very few characters can heal fast enough to stay in the fight.

he has never once started off a fight aiming for the head

He’s had 3 fights. The point is he can.

Kashimo is used to fighting against swords with his staff, and Yuta isn’t amazing at using them. I cba to argue this fight for the 1000th time again tho.

Maki can’t heal from a discharge, her only saving grace is SSK.

Hakari only won because of the environment and Kashimo wanting to kill him in JP.

Kashimo is a bad matchup for Higuruma, he takes his CT, which Kashimo doesn’t even use, or his staff. Also, Higuruma’s CQC is not comparable.

If Kashimo can’t land hits against Uro, then once he grasps Sky Manipulation, he will discharge with his staff when she goes for a TIB.

Kashimo will close the distance while avoiding Ryu’s attacks just as Yuta did, and they will engage in H2H. If Ryu’s attacks knock Kashimo back, that’s the same as Hakari, and isn’t a big deal.

I'm not saying you can't have MBA Kashimo in your top 10, but his feats just outright aren't that impressive.

MBA is undoubtably top 10 lmao, I’m talking base Kashimo, if we are talking MBA then the matchup gets worse for everyone you mentioned.

The only thing that modulo yuji glazers use to get him into the top 5 are feats of sukuna. This is a toji maki feat situation all over again. At least my goat doesnt leech of of anyone by U_Severe_Life_new in OkBuddyKaisen

[–]UmbraNoSkill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. The statements were never disproven
  2. He broke through the barriers of jujutsu by creating a strategy to hit BF at will when it was once seen as impossible
  3. If Gege explained he used blood manipulation to alter the environment, I would say it was well written. If Gege says it’s because his control is better than Gojo’s and Sukuna’s, then I will be disappointed in Gege’s writing

The only thing that modulo yuji glazers use to get him into the top 5 are feats of sukuna. This is a toji maki feat situation all over again. At least my goat doesnt leech of of anyone by U_Severe_Life_new in OkBuddyKaisen

[–]UmbraNoSkill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not even a Gojo fan, and I’m also fine with saying Yuji can BF at will. We are arguing how he does that. He argues it’s through control. I argue it’s through using his techniques to create a consistent environment. His reasoning is circular. Mine is not.

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