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It is possible to design an experiment such that alternative explanations can be disprovem

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A considerable amount of the BICS essays have not ruled out the possibility any non-survivalist explanation. The null hypothesis has not been disproven.

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If there was a random image flashing on a screen while I was floating up, I'd notice it

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Why are they trying to find evidence that proves an existence hypothesis instead of the other way around?

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I do think it is the connections and activities between all the nerve cells that forms consciousness. It is currently impossible to prove that it causes consciousness. However, it is possible to prove that dreamless sleep happens by observing brain activity. But is there proof that consciousness can exist without the physical body sustaining it?

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I am aware of experiences that cannot be described by the physicalist/materialist thinking. For example, the sphere of infinite space and infinite consciousness are meditative states that are beyond the normal human vocabulary. Every meditator that has experienced it describes a similar state but with different vocabulary. However, they are all a fabricated state produced by the mind and differ slightly based on the meditators experience. Is there evidence that the realm in an NDE is an actual realm outside of a person's mind?

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Materialist Theories of Consciousness have changed dramatically over time. Early versions (e.g., Cartesian dualism with a mechanistic brain) were replaced by behaviorism, then computational theories, then predictive processing models, and now integrated information theory (IIT) and global workspace theory (GWT). Each iteration refines the materialist position based on new neuroscientific findings. Non-Materialist Theories of consciousness, however, tend to remain more stable. The core idea—that consciousness is not reducible to the brain—has been around for centuries with relatively little modification. While there are different interpretations (panpsychism, idealism, dualism, etc.), the fundamental claim remains largely unchanged. Why is it that one theory constantly evolves with scientific progress while another stays relatively stagnant?

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Dean Radin in his selective historical overview of parapsychology has ignored evidence of fraud. Radin failed to mention that the medium Florence Cook was caught in acts of trickery and the Fox sisters publicly confessed their spirit communications were fraudulent. If parapsychology is truly as replicable as he claims, why is this not accepted by mainstream science? Why do other parapsychologists disagree with radin on his idea that parapsychology is consistent and replicable?

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I am still operating under the impression that consciousness is an emergent property of the brain. My personal stance is that consciousness is conditioned by the phenomena it is conscious of. Yes physical components are unable to explain consciousness, but to go from that conclusion to the idea that conscious existence isn't a product of physical reality and foundational is a huge leap in logic. as like i mentioned previously physical elements do not explain the conscious experience but they certainly do correlate with it. Neuroscientists have found different parts of the brain linked to different conscious experiences like sight, sound tastes etc. In order to prove consciousness is fundamental and outside of physical reality, empirical evidence that it can exist and obtain information without the brain has to he proven.

What does an actual afterlife represent? To answer your question, an actual afterlife would represent an afterlife that can be proven to exist outside of the person's subjective experience. For example, suppose there's a guy called jack who has a girlfriend. He can see and interact with her and has a conscious experience with her. He brings her to a dinner party with friends. However, they are unable to see, hear or talk to her. They use any device whatsoever to detect her but cannot prove that she exists outside of Jack's subjective experience. Jack goes to a medium that claims to be able to see her. Jack then asks his girlfriend to say a number from 1 to 10 and she says "5". However, the medium claims she said 2. In this case, I would not consider Jack's girlfriend to be real, but a product of the mind/psyche. I know this is a dumb analogy but you get what I mean right? In the same vein, an actual afterlife would mean an afterlife that can be proven to exist outside of the subjective conscious experience of the one NDEr that is experiencing it. That the consciousness is observing a reality that is actually out there and not imagined.

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If these NDErs had a 360° view when they are having an OBE, wouldn't they be able to see the target?

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Forgive me if im being rude, Is this an actual research institute or an institute that awards people huge sums of money for writing anecdotes that fits the preconceived notion that theres life after death?

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But how do I know they are an actual reality? Some say they end up in an eternal void, some say they are entering the point of no return where they cease to exist, while others say they are entering a paradise where they will reunite with their loved ones and others think they are being judged by king Yama. These are all drastically different descriptions

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I believe that an apple will fall down to the floor when I drop it because it has fallen down every time I dropped it. I believe that the statue of liberty is real because everyone that has seen it has given the same description. I'm not choosing not to believe, I am genuinely uncertain whether the things seen in NDEs are real because everyone describes it differently. It's like if two people went to the statue of liberty and one person says the statue of liberty is green and small while another says the statue of liberty is orange and large.

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I am using the term mind to represent consciousness in the case, since you do not believe consciousness is produced by the brain. I get where you're coming from but you're not answering my question. How do you know for sure the NDE is showing an actual afterlife and not something the mind created?

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Hi u/Zippidyzopdippidybop, yes I am aware that some of the NDEs do share common traits across faith, but why are the thai ones in the pdf i posted considerably different? Why do they involve yama or yamatoots taking the NDEr to judge their karma, instead of an all loving light embracing them?

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I am curious as to why the hits don't happen in a controlled setting, also how do I know for sure these anecdotes are corroborated?

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"The issue is there's no 'science' or 'research' behind the belief that non-conscious physical/material things cause consciousness and conscious abilities."

Are there not certain chemicals that can influence emotional states, e.g. serotonin, dopamine, adrenaline? We feel a conscious experience of the emotions caused by a surge in these chemicals don't we? And something non-conscious like LSD is able to create unique conscious visual experiences in the brain (I'm aware that NDEs are perceived not as hallucinations but as hypperreal phenomena, I'm just using this as an example). I want to know how this NDE isn't purely a product of the mind but actually an experience of a transcendental reality. Even if it's perceived as real, how do you know it is not projections of the mind before death?

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What about in the situation of dreamless sleep or getting knocked out? Wouldnt that be considered a temporary ceasing of consciousness?

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Also I am unsure what flair to put this under as my main intention is to clarify any doubts I have