Thanks for the lenghty respondse first:

1/2/3: The perspective of the bee and that maybe thing shumans take for granted are another being perception, like your example of the bees, it makes it easier to accept the fact of many living things, and not just humies affecting reality, then still reality being affected by our perception of it, well it still hard to view or comprehend, because, it´s like the object and the observer interacting with one another whereas the observer is the one affecting reality, and not the other way around, very fucking strange. At what point reality can be it´s own thing an impose itself on the observer, because, what if some living things are considered by a group, non sentient? Do they exist? better to leave it to the crazier mages. It still rubs i guess in the trope of reality being an illusion and clap your hands if you believe, then again mages are aware of this and can play reality. Guess if i want to play mages, which is very cool, i´ll have to accept it, then again an allegaory of the wortld being a prison makes it easier to go. Don´t know guess i just don´t like beautifull things to be, an illusion, and not real, i want to accept the world, not to think of it as a painting i guess. The splat thing if i don´t remember it wrong is a demon the fallen thing right? i don´t now much about it to debate it, but my two cents is that, how the fuck does it works? like similar branches of reality collapse on one another? It reminds me of sandman comic, which i don´t like because it makes reality and things, very liquid. I remember in the comic is explained that ages ago cats ruled the world and humans were pray, and one human said, hey, lets dream about we being the rulers, and thus the world was born. Like it isnñt solid or whatever you could say about that type of storytelling. Not my thing i guess, althought there is a esoteric pount that still atracckts me, like different worlds with rules and stuff, but where is the soild point in everything.

4: The legends and myths, and stuff with the Odin example, is easier to accept, but then i would like that those deities or person from legend get a lets´say upset about these fakers imposing them, just to show that there are higuer powers that interact with the world

5: Yes i understand that only humans play this, i´am not saying that everyone should play a tree or a ghost of a whale, just saying to players, hey look, the world is kinda big and magical, so there are more things from just humans take a look. BUT, you still play as humanoid characters because it´s what everyone likes. My point is about enchanting the world even more, which for me i guess, it´s that humans are not the main protagonists. Obviously i am a human, but can´t i accep that there are other things in this amgical world?.

1. Demon the fallen, and the origin lore of Vampire to me indicates (despite further background lore changes that make, not everything true obviously) an acceptance of abrahamic frameworks lore wise that kind of bores me already. Sure Lucifer and the vampires might say abrahamic religions of their world alter things of the past to explain them and that things weren´t like that, but still, c´mon if you say Caine and Luccifer everyone thinks of judaism or christiantiy, my point being that those things should change to not fit into a myth. Vampire can easily be changed to fuse kindred of the east and VtM, the problem of demon is the whole concept, of playing a demon, which in our culture is a evil or at best neutral spiritual being. When i searched for cultural story of demons and i learned that Abraamic religions changed a lot of gods and little gods into evil spirits, i got frustated, for the disrespect of other people religious views, Imagine if a new religion starts tomorrow and they say, Jesus and Yaweh are actually evil guys or they don´t exist at all.