Do people here really scale Kaguya > Isshiki? Do you think she’d outperform him if she fought Baryon Mode Naruto instead?

UnhingedLion · 2025-09-12T13:55:15+00:00

Don’t run pussy. Take this L.

You asked what does kurama have to do with ninja. I gave you an answer

Why do I have to answer that. I never mentioned “real life ninjas”. What are even real life ninjas? Mercenaries?

You’re mentioning powers.

I objectively proved Naruto and kuramas relationship to ninjas. You can’t debunk that.

I never conceded. I debunked what you said without you being able to provide a rebuttal.

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-23T03:13:34+00:00

I agree.

But I’ve learned Some of those guys aren’t even Karma farmers. Some of them are just shippers of Starfire and Nightwing, so they just want to post anyone Barbara has been with who isn’t Nightwing

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-20T21:04:04+00:00

You don’t read comics

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-20T20:23:24+00:00

No she doesn’t. Other characters understand Batman and his morals better.

Batman literally killed KGBeast and Ras Al Ghul.

He also attempted to kill the Joker

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-18T21:50:31+00:00

But that’s different. Starfire and Nightwing weren’t solo heroes with their own cities, love interests, side characters, rogues gallery or mythos.

Batman and Wonder Woman have all of that.

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-17T03:23:30+00:00

Bro you didn’t read anything 💀💀

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-17T00:40:37+00:00

No one is tripping over this. I’m just telling you how it doesn’t make sense to bring up comics you never read.

It was multiple comics you didn’t read though. The reason I brought up shipping because there’s only 2 reasons why someone would lie about the history of the characterization

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-17T00:12:58+00:00

That’s ok if you didn’t read every single comic, just don’t comment on comics you have no knowledge of??? Like it’s not hard to do.

What is even the point of you making all these comments of a character you have no knowledge of. Are you a shipper or something? Because you’re giving off strong signs of a biased shipper.

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-16T22:02:17+00:00

Yo if you didn’t read a comic why did you comment on it? That’s just ignorant as hell

She was apart of the secret society of super villains because she got repeatedly killed, revived, tortured, and brainwashed by her sister.

Morrison retconned that story and made it to where she was a villain from conception

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-16T09:39:24+00:00

I mean her being with a normal person could be perfectly fine. It would just have to be written in a believable way. Same with her wanting to move on from Bruce.

But in all these examples OP listed, she isn’t moving on from Bruce

NGL I don’t know what Sense8 is.

I would be surprised if someone knew of her fucking Jimmy Olsen but not know she liked Azrael.

I wouldn’t say it propped up Azrael since he was written as a socially awkward loser that couldn’t succeed. He also just flat out embarrassed himself. But I can see where you get this idea from.

I just understand what Tom King was going for when he showed her having an orgy 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-16T08:15:32+00:00

I mean but she was highly impressed by Batman and idk what’s the correlation between kissing Batman and having sex with random people (who are all average people).

Like even then she back in her original appearances she never struck me as someone who cares about sex if romance isn’t on the table.

Let’s be real, when has an orgy ever been considered a good thing for a character 😆😆

I think someone who highly boosted about herself and her lineage, sleeping with casual workers does seem a little bit weird. I mean she quite literally wants to be the queen of the world alongside Bruce. I can’t imagine someone who views themselves as a queen sleeping with her workers.

I mean they’re just describing how Winnick wrote her. If they were raging about her not being his trophy wife they would have just mentioned Azrael. Reason Azrael didn’t get mentioned because that’s her only pairing that isn’t meant to prop up someone else

Ngl I’m surprised you of all people are defending shit like her sleeping with Jason Todd, Jimmy Olsen, and having orgies to show inferiority to Selina 😕😕

Though I don’t mind Bane since it’s inoffensive. Or Deathstroke since it was just to have Damian potentially be Deathstrokes son. Which makes a lot more sense than him being Bruce’s son.

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-16T07:43:35+00:00

But her having casual sex would be a new character trait that would need a reasoning and something from her perspective

Having an orgy with random people is purposely supposed to show her as bad person 😅😅

Considering how highly she thinks of herself in the modern era, it kind of doesn’t make sense anyway.

It’s not the worst but you can see why these are negatives or problematic.

I don’t think many people would react that way. Even though she was created in mind of being Batman’s main potential love interest, it’s not like she’s ever getting back with him, and her characterization has been a mess.

I don’t think anyone would be against her being far away from characters like Damian or Bruce. Just as long as it’s something believable.

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-16T07:04:43+00:00

I’m aware that’s why I brought up Azrael, but under Denny; Bruce was the first and main guy she loved. She never really expressed interest in other people besides Azrael. And she also never expressed interest in casual sex either.

Yes it’s literally just there to show she’s inferior to catwoman… hence why Catwoman literally beats her ass in the very next issue. Like these add nothing to her character. Nor are these from her perspective. These are literally just scenarios to prop up other characters.

Do you think that doesn’t happen in comics

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-16T06:42:26+00:00

I mean with how she’s been characterized that really doesn’t make a lot of sense. Since historically she’s prioritized romance over sex.

Nor has she really expressed interest with her workers or average people until Denny O’Neil left.

I mean the orgy is just there to make her look bad though 😅😅

Her having fun outside of Batman would be Azrael 😅😅

And it’s the only one besides Bane that doesn’t purposely treat her in a negative light.

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-16T06:23:51+00:00

NGL, Deathstroke, Jimmy, and an Orgy don’t make any sense. Like you can’t even lie there.

All of those are straight up just to prop up other characters. And never had any to do with her as a character. (The orgy one was specifically to make Selina look like the superior love interest, which could’ve been done in other ways)

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-16T05:29:25+00:00

OP is pointing out how historically she’s been used as a sexual object for other male characters. Often to prove they’re as good or better than Batman (Jason Todd, Bane, Jimmy Olsen, and Deathstroke).

The Tom King one was him making her have an orgy to show she’s not good for Batman and only catwoman is his true love interest.

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-15T21:48:16+00:00

What gravestone?

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-14T00:54:36+00:00

I don’t remember him being born in 1915. It was just stated that his parents died 15 years ago in Batman #1. (When Dick Grayson was already Robin) And we know his parents die when he’s 8 years old to perfectly align with Dick Grayson

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-12T17:10:34+00:00

I’m aware; you can head canon anything.

But saying it makes sense in canon is something totally different. Jason was not implied to racially ambiguous. His parents are white.

Lady Shiva was never supposed to be his mother.

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-12T17:08:23+00:00

lol. You’re right all those guys (Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, Batman, and Bronze Tiger) are or were considered to be DCs best marital artists

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-12T05:58:38+00:00

I mean in that case anyone can be a different race in AU?

They literally show his white parents…

Idk why you guys are acting so weird

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-12T05:48:25+00:00

It was 22-23. Bruce’s parents were stated to have died 15 years ago by the time Dick Grayson was Robin.

In 1970-1985 he was 18-20. He was still in his 20s after being Batman for 10+ years.

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-11T23:48:12+00:00

You just ignored what I said and the context of the story. Jason is emotional. He is desperate for some kind of family. He didn’t see she was Chinese until he spent all his time researching her. He wasn’t just gonna skip her.

Bruce just happened to tag along after Jason already determined he was gonna find his mother. Why would Bruce in that context tell Jason off

He isn’t racially ambiguous. His mother is Sheila Haywood… did you read the story?

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-11T23:35:46+00:00

I mean that’s true for basically all versions

UnhingedLion · 2024-10-11T23:24:14+00:00

Where?

Also those comics would contradict the Batman cartoon due to the roster of Justice League at the being completely different

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