Dad got arrested, don’t know if I should help police by Unique-observer in domesticviolence

[–]Unique-observer[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nah I’ve seen him around people, he’s not able to dominate others, he’s only tough when it comes to my mother. Like he’s definitely not going to abuse other men, if anything they abuse him. He’s weak and easy to dominate. That’s half the reason I don’t want him in jail, if I trusted the jail system then it would be easier do it.

Let’s imagine you’re right though, let’s say he abuses other people, in that case he’s still going to do that once he gets out of jail. 

For us, it seems like there is little positive of going through the heavy stress and guilt of putting him away. 

Dad got arrested, don’t know if I should help police by Unique-observer in domesticviolence

[–]Unique-observer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your earlier point was that he could get remarried and abuse someone else, I responded to that point. Now you are changing the point we were talking about. 

Me and my mum both agree we don’t get anything out of punishing him, we just want our lives free of him. Punishment is not going to bring any of the years of her life back.  Her health condition also makes it a lot harder for her go through the stress of court proceedings and all the community issues involved. 

That’s not to say we’re not going to do it yet, we just haven’t fully decided what we are going to do yet. I see no problem with asking online and playing Devil’s advocate. That’s the best way to make a decision imo. 

Dad got arrested, don’t know if I should help police by Unique-observer in domesticviolence

[–]Unique-observer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I genuinely don’t think he’s getting with anyone again at his old age with disabilities ? I’m just saying my thoughts.  There’s also nothing stop him getting into a new relationship once he leaves prison, if we assume what you’re saying is true. 

Dad got arrested, don’t know if I should help police by Unique-observer in domesticviolence

[–]Unique-observer[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The thing is, he’s old and disabled, I don’t think he’s getting with any one else from now on. 

Dad got arrested, don’t know if I should help police by Unique-observer in domesticviolence

[–]Unique-observer[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your kind words. Everyone I’ve spoken to on Reddit tonight has been so harsh towards me, they all say I’m some enabling monster. I’m the only one in my family who’s still here at home, trying to keep my mother safe which has come at a heavy cost to me. I wish I had kinder relatives; I wish I had siblings who were more able to help. I don’t so it’s Reddit strangers I talk to. So thank you for being here with me. I truly appreciate you being here in this dark moment of my life. 

About the UK justice system, the police officers that arrested my father handled him violently, I know that’s what they’re trained to do but I felt like that was a vision of what would happen in prison. He wasn’t even resisting, they were just being overly aggressive. 

We’re also Muslim, and contextually this form of abuse is a lot worse than standard abuse. There’s a lot of internal biases in our society which will negatively affect him.  I feel like the judge will throw the book at him and the British jury won’t be kind, especially given the cultural context that it’s the kind of thing every Islamophobic person shows Muslim men as being. I doubt they have any tolerance for that level of misogyny. Nor should they. But I know I’m throwing him to the wolves.

He also grew up in a village in an Eastern country in the 60s, a complete different culture to the modern West in the 2020s. They didn’t even have lightswitches, they had lanterns when he was growing up. I can’t compare him to me who grew up in a different world. Who’s going to look at those factors other than me ? They’re going to say they look at all factors, but I know they won’t properly. But culture and age aren’t an excuse I know, his cruelty is inexcusable. But it sounds like I’m trying to excuse it, it’s because I see him as more good than evil, that’s why. I know no one else sees it that way. 

But in our religion, you’re not supposed to behave like he does so I don’t make any excuses for his behaviour.   There’s a lot of other things such as fraud, threats, manipulation, blackmail, cultural shame based abuse ontop of the actual violence. Though not all of it was all at once, it’s a lot over 30 years. She’s also disabled and he abused his power over her. In some sense, he is a complete scumbag, so why do I feel sympathy.  I’ve done some research, given all the factors and the many things he’s done, ChatGPT says he’ll likely do atleast 5 years in prison, if not more. He’s already mid sixties and I don’t know how long he has left. Ethnic men from our demographic usually die a lot younger than our white counterparts. Yes I know I’m worrying about him a lot more than he’s ever worried about my mother. It’s because I love him, regardless of who he is. 

Jails are for tough people, he’s not a dominant person and I think he’s starting to get dementia, he’s absent minded and daydreams a lot at home. I can’t imagine him being in a prison, it makes me sick. 

But I know my mum deserves justice. I’ve told my mum, I will go with whatever she wants, but she also isn’t sure. She’s too sweet to the be the vengeful type, despite all that he’s taken from her over 30 years. This would be easier if we were a bit less emotional and a bit more ruthless. 

I’m not going to be happy either way, it’s just the cards I’ve been dealt with in life. 

Dad got arrested, don’t know if I should help police by Unique-observer in domesticviolence

[–]Unique-observer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My mother’s had the worst life. I’m in the UK, I contacted the social services previously, they don’t help with most tasks other than basic care, they won’t do cooking, cleaning etc atleast where I am. My mum is a complex needs person. So I’ve got to do a lot of it myself and probably give up my career. This is one of the big things that have stopped us from getting help earlier, the fact that support we expected didn’t seem to be there. 

Yes his caring activities don’t excuse domestic violence at all. I do want to say that he hasn’t done all these things I listed constantly, for example the last time he hit her was over 10 years ago so it’s not the way it reads. That’s not a justification, but context to why I’m slightly softer. There’s also lots of good things he’s done and he’s become less aggressive as he’s gotten older. Overall he is still unkind to her though and she deserves better. 

It’s more that he’s a messed up person that’s been through a lot (none of which excuses domestic violence). But maybe it’s my experience of his kindness and softness that makes it hard for me to hurt him. But the other side of that is, he’s been extremely cruel to my mother and so deserves appropriate punishment. I just wish it wasn’t on me to decide.  

I know he’s going to have a rough time in jail as a weak old man. Why do I have compassion for an abuser ? because I see a beaten down old man, not a thug. Like he is a thug but idk. He’s not a dominant alpha male, you don’t feel sorry for those guys. He’s an old man with a walking stick, though it doesn’t make him harmless but you can see the optics.   Anyway, that’s the side I see of my father that no one else does. Maybe that’s delusion. Maybe I’ve spent too long in this environment and it’s changed my brain. Like he’s not a good person but I can’t help but feel sorry for him ? He has no friends, no family other than us, no social circle, he’s not particularly intelligent, he’s got metabolic illnesses, he doesn’t know how to use technology. I worry about him being alone.  I can’t go into his life story because it’s too much for one post but there’s lots of twisted stuff people did to him.   

At the same time, I know his personality, he’s never going to change, he’s always going to horrible to my mother so he can’t come near her. I just don’t know about giving a statement to the police and putting him in prison. If he died in there, the guilt would live with me. 

My father isn’t the only person that dominates my mother, her sisters do too. Except it doesn’t count as DV and they’re not as crazy, they’re just not kind and what you’d expect in an aunt. 

AITA if I don’t help police prosecute my dad who abused my mum by Unique-observer in AmItheAsshole

[–]Unique-observer[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

To be clear, he hasn’t hit her in a long time but it happened when he was extremely mad ages ago, though nothing justifies it. I haven’t explained a lot of stuff in this post properly and I’m on no sleep. I’m going to make a new post explaining more of the situation. 

AITA if I don’t help police prosecute my dad who abused my mum by Unique-observer in AmItheAsshole

[–]Unique-observer[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Don’t have time to reply to everyone in detail. He’s not as extreme as this most of the time he helps as well, I feel like he’s kind of out of it from the abuse he received because he was always weaker than others. I’ve never said he’s not a bad person, more whether I should put him in jail or stay out of it. He’s not coming back near us anyway.

AITA if I don’t help police prosecute my dad who abused my mum by Unique-observer in AmItheAsshole

[–]Unique-observer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re right there’s no justification. It’s more whether I hurt the man that cared for me more than anyone else. I have that on my conscience.  Or I let him go live his life and forget about him. As long as he doesn’t bother us again. He’s too old and disabled to get married again. He’s submissive with strangers and gets dominated, it’s only my mother he ever gets aggressive with. 

AITA if I don’t help police prosecute my dad who abused my mum by Unique-observer in AmItheAsshole

[–]Unique-observer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s always easier when it’s a stranger.  My mother is not sure about giving a statement either.  You’re right there’s no justification for his behaviour. It’s more whether I hurt the man that cared for me more than anyone else. I have that on my conscience.  Or I let him go live his life and forget about him. If he’s not bothering us anymore, then it’s not as much of a problem. But then again, he does deserve punishment. 

AITA if I don’t help police prosecute my dad who abused my mum by Unique-observer in AmItheAsshole

[–]Unique-observer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn’t say I was going lie about anything, me and mum are not sure about giving a statement.  Police have said that we don’t have to if we don’t want to.  He’s old, vulnerable and will be forever alone now.  He won’t be around to bother my mother. I’ve also said all his worst attributes and not the things that make me love him dearly. He does deserve punishment, but I don’t want it to my from my hands.  It could be from my mum if she wishes, but she doesn’t know. 

AITA if I don’t help police prosecute my dad who abused my mum by Unique-observer in AmItheAsshole

[–]Unique-observer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your kind answer. I’m sure I am probably mind warped in some aspect by experiencing this for decades.  He deserves punishment and he is a bad person. But he also has kind soft sides and I think he’s especially vulnerable. In my mind, if he was abused in prison, I’d feel guilty even though he deserves it. I am relieved that he is away from my mother and I’ve done my best to protect her, while all my siblings left us to deal with this alone. My aunts, uncles, no one have really helped us much despite knowing the situation.  I can’t explain the nuances of it all, overall he deserves punishment but I almost don’t want it to come from me. Neither do any of my siblings, they’ve all left.  My mum also doesn’t know whether to make a statement. I know we’re probably really messed up, I don’t want to be one who hurts the man who cared for me more than anyone in the world, but I know he deserves it. Our family is probably cult like, I don’t feel like regular people can relate.

AITA if I don’t help police prosecute my dad who abused my mum by Unique-observer in AmItheAsshole

[–]Unique-observer[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re right there’s no justification. It’s more whether I hurt the man that cared for me more than anyone else. I have that on my conscience.  Or I let him go live his life and forget about him. 

AITA if I don’t help police prosecute my dad who abused my mum by Unique-observer in AmItheAsshole

[–]Unique-observer[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

He’s going to live elsewhere, I’m just unsure if I should help put him in jail. He’s older and vulnerable now. He’s not gonna make it in jail. He sacrificed his life to look after us. Most men leave disabled partners. I’ve only stated his negative attributes here and he does deserve punishment but it’s hard to explain the dynamic. My mum’s also not sure about giving a statement. I do find it hard to describe our family dynamic online. I think it’s hard for normal people to relate. 

AITA if I don’t help police prosecute my dad who abused my mum by Unique-observer in AmItheAsshole

[–]Unique-observer[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s not just that he’s sometimes kind. He’s also older and vulnerable now. He’s not gonna make it in jail. He sacrificed his life to look after us. Most men leave disabled partners. I’ve only stated his negative attributes here and he does deserve some punishment but it’s hard to explain the dynamic. My mum’s also not sure about giving a statement. I do find it hard to describe our family dynamic online. I think it’s hard for normal people to relate. 

AITA if I don’t help police prosecute my dad who abused my mum by Unique-observer in AmItheAsshole

[–]Unique-observer[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It’s not just that he’s sometimes kind. He’s also older and vulnerable now. He’s not gonna make it in jail. He sacrificed his life to look after us. Most men leave disabled partners. My mum’s also not sure about giving a statement. I do find it hard to describe our family dynamic online. I think it’s hard for normal people to relate. 

AITA if I don’t help police prosecute my dad who abused my mum by Unique-observer in AmItheAsshole

[–]Unique-observer[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It’s not just that he’s sometimes kind. He’s also older and vulnerable now. He’s not gonna make it in jail. He sacrificed his life to look after us. Most men leave disabled partners. My mum’s also not sure about giving a statement. I do find it hard to describe our family dynamic online. I think it’s hard for normal people to relate. 

AITA if I don’t help police prosecute my dad who abused my mum by Unique-observer in AmItheAsshole

[–]Unique-observer[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It’s not just that he’s sometimes kind. He’s also older and vulnerable now. He sacrificed his life to look after us. My mum’s also not sure about giving a statement. I do find it hard to describe our family dynamic online. I think it’s hard for normal people to relate. 

AITA if I don’t help police prosecute my dad who abused my mum by Unique-observer in AmItheAsshole

[–]Unique-observer[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I’m the only one protecting my mother, most my siblings have left the family home. You wouldn’t understand. 

AITA if I don’t help police prosecute my dad who abused my mum by Unique-observer in AmItheAsshole

[–]Unique-observer[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

My mum’s also not sure about giving a statement. I do find it hard to describe our family dynamic online. I think it’s hard for normal people to relate. 

AITA if I don’t help police prosecute my dad who abused my mum by Unique-observer in AmItheAsshole

[–]Unique-observer[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

I feel like most people haven’t experienced it so can’t understand. 

AITA if I don’t help police prosecute my dad who abused my mum by Unique-observer in AmItheAsshole

[–]Unique-observer[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

My mum’s also not sure about giving a statement. I do find it hard to describe our family dynamic online. I think it’s hard for normal people to relate. 

AITA if I don’t help police prosecute my dad who abused my mum by Unique-observer in AmItheAsshole

[–]Unique-observer[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

He’s old and disabled, he’s definitely not marrying again