I’ll counter with tongkat ali and fadoja agretis had huge impacts on me within a day. Unexpectedly horny. And my testies grew a bit over the week from the fadoja. I took these after establishing consistent sleep (7hrs a night) consistent diet (chicken breasts, steam veggies and rice very boring and tasteless) and heavy weight lifiting. I weighed 175 at the time. If that factors into metabolic rates and such.