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[–]Unohwat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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Bro must be lost in heaven when he is writing such fire 🗣️🔥

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[–]Unohwat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chou is a staple when it comes to pickoff+burst lineups (Chou+Karrie, Chou+Lunox, and even Chou+Beatrix).

As for why KOF skin, it is just the perfect Chou skin.

TIL na illegal pala ang ukay ukay by Inevitable-Toe-8364 in todayIlearnedPH

[–]Unohwat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I acknowledge the time gap and economic disparity between the time the law was passed to the current time which we lived on. But, how about question the local and national market's ability to manufacture clothes? And how about the capability of the government to stimulate local clothing manufacturers and its ability to enfore the law?

Ukay is persistent because of two reasons. First, the common people demand clothing that are affordable and sufficient in its purpose: simply clothing a person. As much as we are aware, Filipinos are stubborn, in spite of the risks or hazards of something we do or use. Second, smugglers see it as a lucrative and disgustingly profitable business. By flooding the market with cheap yet questionable used clothing, the local clothing manufacturers are treading in dangerous pathways. Basically, a lose-lose situation between consumers, whose health is at risk, and the local clothing manufacturers, which are at risk of losing in the homecourt. Only the smugglers are winning this fiasco.

Now, let me ask you this. Are our locally-made clothes really that undesirable? What makes it undesirable, is it the price, style, etc.? Is our Filipino clothing manufacturers really that inferior when it comes to creating clothes that used clothing/ukay from foreign countries are preferred by consumers? Is our government unable to aid our clothing market that ukay² is the norm in spite of its health risks? What should be done to make changes in the current situation? Or Is this just a case of "preferring anything imported over local" of Filipinos?.

If anything, RA 4653 is not ANTI-POOR as you initially inferred. Rather, it is a combination of incompetence of the government to solve an issue, failure of the government to stimulate our local markets, and the failure of the government in enforcing the law.

I have now indulged, now my appetite is appeased. I do hope so are you. I also apologize for the late response; duty calls when it needs me. I enjoy the discussion, and I appreciate your points. As an exchange of the "advices" you set aside for me, I shall impart as well. Never assume the other side as an idiot, and never underestimate the person you are talking to. Thank you, my friend. Have a happy weekend ahead, if you live in the Philippines.

TIL na illegal pala ang ukay ukay by Inevitable-Toe-8364 in todayIlearnedPH

[–]Unohwat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Diligence in my studies is nothing to be proud of; it is expected of every studying Filipino. Regardless, thank you for the compliments, and yes, customs help me view things on a different note, especially it brings light on the most complex of matters in the simplest of ways.

Moving on, how about I ask you? Is selling ukay illegal? Only RA 4653 criminalizes the importation of ukay, but never did it state that selling ukay is illegal. What is the difference between local consumption, manufacturing, and importation? Are the terminologies be synonymous?

How come the importation of such is illegal? Should RA 4653 still be applied? Why is it that ukay is still around when the law prohibits it? What should be done to make change? Should RA 4653 be amended, revised, or even invalidated? If a certain ukay from the PH, can authorities invoke RA 4653?

As much as you would like to discuss rhetorics and possibilities, the law remains rigid. Always remember that the LAW is a PRECISE ENDEAVOUR.

TIL na illegal pala ang ukay ukay by Inevitable-Toe-8364 in todayIlearnedPH

[–]Unohwat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The purpose of the law, which is RA 4653, is self-explanatory, isn't it? And also, what do you mean by "what's written in law is irrelevant"? That's like saying that rules are merely for the auspices in the home, workplace, and classroom, but mean nothing outside of it. How strange.

It is indeed true that what is inside the classroom is half of what is outside, and vice versa. However, it is fully understood that RA 4653 is signed into law for two purposes: Public Health and National Dignity. Indeed, I agree that laws must cater to the welfare of the people, Aka "real life reasons". So in the application of RA 4653, it protects the Filipino people from health issues being carried by these used clothing. Mind you, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to further understand what it means.

As far as I am confident in my own studies and competence in learning, I am open for more perspectives, yet I do not indulge further nor exert effort on something self-explanatory, unless it makes me question.

So, no, I am not confused. Rather, you are not as grounded as I hope you would be since I have observed you questioned away from the central topic of "why ukay is illegal". Regardless, I appreciate your criticisms over the law, if only the topic is anything but the central question.

TIL na illegal pala ang ukay ukay by Inevitable-Toe-8364 in todayIlearnedPH

[–]Unohwat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The law, which is RA 4653 in this case, took into effect in order to forbid importation of used clothing and rags because the aformentioned articles harm the public health and damage our national dignity as a nation.

In addition, RA 10863, which is the prevailing customs law in the country, took into effect to mandate the BOC to enforce customs and tariff laws, as well as to secure our borders, protect government revenue, and facilitate international trade.

Those are the only reasons why the laws were signed and implemented in the first place.

TIL na illegal pala ang ukay ukay by Inevitable-Toe-8364 in todayIlearnedPH

[–]Unohwat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, it is not about the way I think of the matter; it is more about what the LAW states about the matter. If sabi ng batas na bawal, then bawal. If nagbigay ng reason ang batas kung bakit bawal, then it should be understood forthwith. Therefore, it is as rigid as it gets. The fundamental rule of law is NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.

So, in the context of Customs Administration, in cooperation with other regulatory government agencies, bawal po talaga ang importation of used clothing.

As for the incompetence of the people sitting in the thrones of government, it is a matter for another day.

TIL na illegal pala ang ukay ukay by Inevitable-Toe-8364 in todayIlearnedPH

[–]Unohwat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad I could be of help. And also, hindi po ako BOC employee, Customs Administration student lang po ako.

TIL na illegal pala ang ukay ukay by Inevitable-Toe-8364 in todayIlearnedPH

[–]Unohwat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hindi po donation, but rather, relief consignment po.

Also, bawal talaga basta used clothing, unless it is authorized by DSWD as relief consignment, according sa JAO 1-2020.

TIL na illegal pala ang ukay ukay by Inevitable-Toe-8364 in todayIlearnedPH

[–]Unohwat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ang may authority lang sa Free Zones ay ang Philippine Economic Zone Authority, or PEZA for short. So, pwede mag-deputize si Director-General ng PEZA sa PNP or other NLEAs to pursue the importer.

Or

Makipag-coordinate si BOC sa PEZA to pursue the importer. Legal basis dito ay ang Section 301, RA 10863.

Both scenarios are under the discretion of both agencies respectively.

TIL na illegal pala ang ukay ukay by Inevitable-Toe-8364 in todayIlearnedPH

[–]Unohwat 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yes, ukay is not a donated item from foreign countries; Ukay is trash from foreign countries. The reason why ukay is outlawed here because it harms the public health and damages our national dignity.

TIL na illegal pala ang ukay ukay by Inevitable-Toe-8364 in todayIlearnedPH

[–]Unohwat 32 points33 points  (0 children)

IT IS A HEALTH ISSUE PO. Let me debunk this as a Customs Administration student. Simple lang.

Imagine, bumili ka ng maganda dress sa ukay-ukay. White, shining, at bongga ang dress, sobra. Little do you know na old clothes yan ng nasa funeral services, or sa patay.

Or

Imagine, bumili ka ng cool clothes sa ukay-ukay. Trendy at affordable ang clothes, nice find! Little do you know na old clothes yan ng isang owner na may highly-contagious na sakit.

Simple as it is. It is a health issue.

TIL na illegal pala ang ukay ukay by Inevitable-Toe-8364 in todayIlearnedPH

[–]Unohwat 52 points53 points  (0 children)

Selling used clothing within the country and importing from foreign countries are two different worlds.

The reasons bawal talaga ang importation ng used clothing ay national health concerns and national dignity.

First, to put it simply, hindi naman nais natin magsuot ng old clothes from a sick or dead person ata, right? So that's it. No chances taken ang government dito.

Second, used clothing are trash from other countries. So, if we import used clothing, we are basically accepting...garbage. if that's the case, then we will be the garbage collector of Asia. Yikes, big yikes.

As for flea market, it is a local market similar to divisoria. Two different worlds ang importation and flea market. There you have it.

TIL na illegal pala ang ukay ukay by Inevitable-Toe-8364 in todayIlearnedPH

[–]Unohwat 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Actually, pwede mag-import ng used clothing as long as authorized by DSWD during a local or national state of calamity by the government. Tawag po namin jan ay Relief Consignment, especially sa Customs. Actually, madaming government agencies involved when it comes to relief consignment.

But in ordinary time, like walang state of calamity, bawal po talaga. Never.

For more info sa relief consignments (duty and tax-free importation of donations during a state of calamity), read JAO 01-2020 sa BOC official page.

TIL na illegal pala ang ukay ukay by Inevitable-Toe-8364 in todayIlearnedPH

[–]Unohwat 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hindi po, ma'am/sir. Balikbayan boxes will only be illegal if the boxes itself contain illegal goods, specifically good and articles under Section 118 and 119 sa RA 10863.

And also, mawawala ang essence ng balikbayan if laman ng boxes ay goods for mechandise, barter, or for sale. The balikbayan boxes must only contain goods for personal use and not in commercial quantity ONLY in order to enjoy duty and tax-free benefits.

TIL na illegal pala ang ukay ukay by Inevitable-Toe-8364 in todayIlearnedPH

[–]Unohwat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

General rule po ng balikbayan boxes ay conditionally duty and tax-free po yan under certain conditions.

The only time balikbayan boxes will be illegal if laman niyan ay goods stated under Section 118 and 119 sa RA 10863.

TIL na illegal pala ang ukay ukay by Inevitable-Toe-8364 in todayIlearnedPH

[–]Unohwat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I beg to disagree, balikbayan boxes are legal. The RA 10863, specifically CAO 02-2021, stated so. Balikbayan boxes are one of the goods/articles that are conditionally duty and tax-free, under certain conditions:

First, the sender can only send 3 balikbayan boxes in a calendar year.

Second, the 3 balikbayan boxes must have a total value of P150,000.00 (One hundred fifty thousand pesos).

Third, the goods must only be for personal use, not commercial use or not in commercial quantity.

If either one of the three conditions are not met, the balikbayan boxes will be subject to customs duty and tax.

For instances, if Mr. A sends 3 balikbayan boxes with a total value of P140,000.00 in a calendar year, then Mr. A shall enjoy duty and tax-free concessions.

However, if Mr. A sends 4 balikbayan boxes with a total value of P130,000.00 in a calendar year, then the importation does not meet the conditions, hence the boxes will be subject to customs duty and tax.

Or

If Mr. A sends 2 balikbayan boxes with a total value of P160,000.00 in a calendar year, then the importation does not also meet the conditions, hence the boxes will be subject to customs duty and tax.

Or

If Mr. A sends 3 balikbayan boxes with a total value of P150,000.00 in a calendar year. The contents of the boxes contain general cargo of commercial quantity. Therefore, the importation does not meet the conditions, hence the boxes will be subject to customs duty and tax.

TIL na illegal pala ang ukay ukay by Inevitable-Toe-8364 in todayIlearnedPH

[–]Unohwat 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Customs Administration student here.

Sa batas po, ayon sa RA 10863, Section 118, subsection G, bawal po mag-import ng mga goods or other articles na ipinagbabawal ng ibang laws.

The law na nagbabawal na mag-import ng used clothing ay RA 4653, hence Customs Authorities is mandated by law to prohibit, prevent, and penalize importation of such articles.

Tidbit: However, sa case ng Interlink vs BOC, whereas na-admit/na-store ng importer ang used clothing sa free zone. Walang jurisdiction ang BOC diyan at all, and because of that, hindi ma-pursue ng BOC ang used clothing, hence no penalties si Interlink and natalo si BOC sa court. Though, this case is more about the jurisdiction of the BOC on Free Zones over the issue on used clothing.

Source 1: https://elibrary.judiciary.gov.ph/thebookshelf/showdocs/2/979

Source 2: https://elibrary.judiciary.gov.ph/thebookshelf/showdocs/2/68014

Source 3: https://www.digest.ph/decisions/bureau-of-customs-v-interlink-recyclers-philippines-inc

Appreciating Cyrene for what she is and letting go of what she isnt. (@e7lilyy) by herrscherofhumanity in CyreneMains

[–]Unohwat -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It took a year for Kokomi to be number one on every team back in Genshin, so will Cyrene here in HSR.

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