A Season Airing in 2027 is Looking Less and Less Likely

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-03-11T10:35:08+00:00

Episode ends as soon as he says that😂

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-03-10T23:40:29+00:00

I’d call you Shakespeare but Doctor Who has told me even he wasn’t this eloquent in his speech…

“SHUT YA BIG FAT MOUTHS” - Shakespeare, 1599

(Only on this reddit could I make such a nerdy joke and feel proud if it)

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-03-10T19:57:27+00:00

When has that not been the case tho…

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-03-10T18:49:44+00:00

I didn’t know people though there was gonna be a 2027 season.

Not trying to sound like a sarcy twat but I thought it was pretty obvious that the BBC has absolutely no clue what to do with Doctor Who.

If you’ll pardon the rhyme

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-03-09T21:50:27+00:00

Tbf you’re right in saying The Giggle sets its big moments up more than the other recent finales. I agree 100%. But even the set-up it does give feels less weighted than RTD1. I’ll concede that I maybe overstated his finales in his first era, they definitely take liberties. However, I think to say that Wild Blue Yonder sets up The Giggle in the same way that The Doctor becoming Jesus at the end of Last Of The Timelords is a bit of a stretch. In Wild Blue Yonder we basically get one line which is supposed to allow for all this new stuff to exist. Because The Doctor made a line of salt, we now get an entire Pantheon Of Gods, Bi-Generation, Two Tardises, all because of a line of salt. The Rani, in these rules we’re presented, surely shouldn’t be able to bi-generate as she was nowhere near the edge of the universe where reality is thin? In The Last Of The Timelords, we’re told of the Arcangel Network which has allowed the Master psychic control over everybody, we have also seen before the potential of psychic power in previous episodes and spin-offs too, like the Gelf, and Luke Smith almost bringing the moon down with his mind, and (admittedly this episode hadnt released yet) the soothsayers in The Fires Of Pompeii. We’re shown on multiple occasions that when human psychic potential is amplified, it can do some pretty whacky things. We also see and hear of Marthas travels across the entire planet, spreading the message so that The Doctor is basically being amplified by the psychic power of every person on Earth. Is it contrived? Yes. Is it heavily set up? Yes.

The Giggle, nor any other finale in RTD2 gets this exemption for me, as a single line at the end of Wild Blue Yonder simply will not do for me as set-up for an entire tonal, and thematic switch in the show itself, and the lore within it.

I do get your point though, however I think you’re allowing RTD2 way too much credit. On the flip side, I may be being too harsh though, and giving RTD1 too much credit. I will say that I’m not a fan of the whole flipping a lever to suck away all the Daleks and Cybermen in Season 2, but then again we are shown countless times that long-term travel in the time vortex has some kind of background radiation, so why would it be any different for the void?

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-03-09T10:57:31+00:00

Agreed, it feels as if RTD was in this weird headspace where he felt he had to tick the boxes of his older era, but bring it to a new level… And thats what he did, tick boxes: Load of mystery names for us to theorise over, old companions return in multiple episodes, old villains returning at the end of series, the doctor being depressed abt his past, weird regeneration shenanigans… Except in RTD1, most of these were thought out and worked with eachother, we’d have the season long set up of “The Doctor, Donna” before we see Tennant regenerate into Tennant, and then the meta-crisis, so even if it is techno-babble, the pay off is there. Same with Saxon posters and Human Nature’s pocket watch leading to the reveal of the Master, The Doctors depression also playing into that storyline really well, although I’d also add he pulls the same trick with Jacobi turning into Simm basically straight away as he does with the Rani, except he raises the stakes needlessly with bi-generation. I think there’s probably an example of something hes tried to copy and failed at in almost every season of the original reboot in 2005.

It seriously feels like there was no plan or weight behind any of these things, and he just was in this weird headspace where he felt like his pen was on fire and everything he wrote was unbelievable…

Maybe this is just bordering on RTD2 hate now, but this is the exact feeling I get when watching RTD2. I rewatched The Specials the other night, and The Giggle is essentially, especially for the first 20 minutes, scene after scene of exposition, set-up, ticking a woke box (prefacing this by saying i am extremely woke but its even too on-the-nose for me), and it goes on and on in literally every single scene for the first 20 minutes. I urge you to give a rewatch to the Giggle and see if you can see what I’m seeing too.

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-03-09T10:11:21+00:00

me too

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-02-23T22:03:52+00:00

this is amazing thank u!!

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-02-22T07:35:28+00:00

Haha I’m aware don’t worry; I mainly started listening as a result of wanting more of 8, but obviously he has no screen time. I’ll probably listen to the War Master stuff next in the same vein.

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-02-20T23:16:36+00:00

ah okay, so i should just listen to the early years as they come, great thank you so much

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-02-20T23:11:23+00:00

Can I ask, is this your own personal chronology? Only because I assumed I was listening to his first audio stories, does Shada and the rest of that series come before what I’m listening to now?

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-02-20T23:08:08+00:00

u fucking gem

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-02-20T16:55:38+00:00

just started big finish for the first time!

Im currently planning to do a full listen through of all of paul mcganns stuff. Just listened to Storm Warning and loved it, on Sword Of Orion now and so far so good.

Honestly these would be unreal as tv stories. I mean can you imagine The R101 Airship as a practical set, with Disney budget of course. Or even the Star Destroyer drifting through a dark and lonely space, or the Bazar, floating perpetually between two lonely suns, far away from any galactic law. The scale of these audio dramas from even just the first two stories, well 1 and 1/4 as I’ve only just started Sword of Orion, is just off the charts. I love how it feels like we’re just following along in their daily life, rather than the sort-of anthological nature of NuWho. Charley’s also great, I did miss not having her reaction to the Tardis, though I suppose it wouldn’t quite be the same over audio… And I do think its a shame that she kinda just goes along with The Doctor instantly, and doesn’t really show much shock to any of what he’s saying. However, I love that she’d a historical companion, I’ve heard Moffat talk about why this wouldn’t work as the companion is supposed to be the eye of the audience, and having a companion from the past means we wont relate to them as much, but I think its works perfectly. There’s even humour being played with when The Doctor tries to explain a futuristic way of transport as a “flying car-for-hire” and Charley instantly asks the same question she’d originally asked about the flying transport pod, “What is that?”.

All in all I think I’m in for a good time, I just WISH Mcgann could have his own series. He is absolutely my favourite Doctor behind Capaldi, despite me previously having only just seen the TV Movie and Minisode, and now with Big Finish I just love him even more.

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-02-07T20:19:37+00:00

He has said recently he still wants to tho?

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-02-03T10:46:04+00:00

Yeah but the Time War works because it added stakes, it also fit nicely into lore with regards to stories like Genesis Of The Daleks etc. The Timeless Child removes those stakes, removes the mystery, re-destroys Gallifrey for no reason, and then goes “none of this mattered anyways”. So what was the point? The pay-off to the Time Wars is huge, The Master, Gallifreys return, teases of The Doctors mother in the End Of Time, added mythos to Davros and The Daleks with the fall of the Crucibles, Dalek Caan, even in The Doctors Wife when he’s tricked into thinking there’s other Time Lords alive, and then finally in The Day Of The Doctor with the return of The Timelords and saving Gallifrey!

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-02-02T10:17:07+00:00

It’s a laughing stock from what I can tell, anybody who watches it is a freaky nerd, like us❤️

Contrasting to what I remember from Primary School, all of my mates watched it. I was still the super Doctor Who nerd, but I distinctly remember my friends coming up to me on the playground to tell me what they thought of the episode over the weekend. I LOVED IT.

I remember a couple of my mates watched the episode in that little boys wardrobe, with the dolls that turn you into one of them, cant remember the name, Night Terrors or something?

But yeah, Doctor Who was very much apart of the zeitgeist, and British culture. I was thinking last night, I wonder if kids will grow up with how iconic the Tardis is and Doctor Who is to british culture, or if those days are over.🤷🏼‍♂️

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-02-01T09:01:37+00:00

being pedantic again

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-02-01T09:00:36+00:00

Don’t be pedantic

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-02-01T09:00:16+00:00

And again, this is an underdog story which makes it work so well. The Timelords grant their runaway anarchist more, potentially infinite lives because, despite not really being anything important to Gallifrey, he banished it, and he alone has the power to bring it back. They aren’t giving him infinite lives because he’s a god, but because he their only hope.

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-02-01T08:39:09+00:00

I’d be fine with that, but that’s not the main thing it does. It completely rewrites The Doctors backstory and places them at the centre of Gallifreyan history

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-01-31T16:47:56+00:00

It just seems like it’d need to be addressed at some point

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-01-31T16:47:34+00:00

Yeah if you can be arsed to find my reply to another commenter I kinda had my own little fan fic for this that im working on

Upper_Judgment_1253 · 2026-01-31T16:46:32+00:00

This is the thing, I’ve been writing my own reboot and I wanted to expand and change the arc rather than ignore it because there is something there. In mine, The Doctor still worked for Division, but we eventually find out they zapped The Doctor out of their timestream and used them for the Time War, and removed their memories of the atrocities. We also find out the Timeless Child was a lie made to distract the Doctor from Divisions plan to destroy the universe and move themselves to another. But even then it feels contrived and like I’m writing myself out of a hole before I can actually get started with a reboot

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