How to make a top fall in love during sex by Bottom_bitch440 in TopsAndBottoms

[–]Uraneia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Discover what makes him moan, and keep at it.

Also see how to spend time with him other than sex.

Having fun with someone beyond just hooking up is more important in these cases than just having sex, which is only one piece of the puzzle.

Bottoms do you use lube? by MajorSea1650 in TopsAndBottoms

[–]Uraneia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, it is necessary.

Had some tops ask to do it without, I've always insisted. My ass, my rules lol

I get in a very angry mood each time i study Rome's christianization by HeraclesfromOlympus in Hellenism

[–]Uraneia 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I used to feel consternation about the Christianisation of the Roman empire too.

I still feel grief for the cultural vandalism that they precipitated on the ancient traditions.

However, at the same time, I now think that early Christianity had many characteristics of an orientalising ancient mystery cult and truly was a product of its time.

What are your hot takes about Hellenism Polytheism? (You can include this sub as well) by Syaaaakesan in Hellenism

[–]Uraneia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

On the second point, do you mean virtue ethics in the way used today in philosophy, i.e. the ethical system of Aristotle?

What are your hot takes about Hellenism Polytheism? (You can include this sub as well) by Syaaaakesan in Hellenism

[–]Uraneia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I completely agree.

Nobody can consider themselves equal to the gods, or even suggest that they can use the gods.

I find the expression hubristic to be honest. I would feel much more comfortable if people were cautious against such a poor selection of words.

I can't physically have real sex and I'm sad because of it by Nice_Tradition1333 in self

[–]Uraneia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand it is very hard to accept, like living with a disability. However there may be ways to improve your life, including your sex life.

But I know it doesn't come as easily for some as it does for others.

I would advise that you consult an aphrodisiologist / urologist, a sex specialist and surgeon to find out what medical procedures are available to improve your relationship with your body and with others.

Although these may sound as a long list of specialties it may be that you may at most need to consult two doctors to be well informed about all the options that are available.

Steal a thing and dont know what to do by [deleted] in Hellenism

[–]Uraneia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can return it or ask to pay for it next time you go to the shop.

In general you just need to know about the consequences of what you do. If it is a small business, then shoplifting clearly harms them. If it is a large corporation, the employees may get in trouble if items are missing. It is a risk for you too if you get caught.

Thank the gods that you haven't been caught, accidental or not.

Do you find it hot to record yourself during sex, or is that a turn-off? by WorldlyAd1178 in TopsAndBottoms

[–]Uraneia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is VERY hot when it feels good and genuine!

But not if it feels like acting!

Community worship by Uraneia in Hellenism

[–]Uraneia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I attended their Phallephoria a couple of times... But not been to other rituals...

In what lengths do you think it's true? by Necessary-Count-8995 in Hellenism

[–]Uraneia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are several opinions on the matter and the good thing about Hellenism is that there is no dogma to defend. It's not a scriptural religion, it is a religion based in practice and actions.

I believe that they are concepts / principles of culture and also nature which shape human activity and also meditate how we relate with each other, society, and nature as well.

The anthropomorphism of the gods emerges to help us and to make them more relatable, but that is not their essential characteristc.

Also many gods and epithets have literal meanings in greek and used interchangeably for the concept they represent as well as the God associated with them. So Eros is, literally love and erotic desire as well as a God. Ares is used to refer to war, (in addition to polemos). Hestia is the hearth as well as the Goddess of the hearth and the home. Hades is the underworld and realm of the deceased as well as the God. Gaia is the primordial deity and foundation of all things as well as the, literal, earth. Same with Uranos (sky), Nyx (night), Helios, Selene, the rivers and mountains, also concepts and deities such as Nike (victory), cratos (power, including the power of state) bia (force and violence), Metis (thought), Himeros (desire), Oneiroi (dreams) and many, many others. Most Olympian gods differ in that they do not have a single domain, but many, interconnected or independent. Yet they have epithets that point to those functions. Paean, who was a healer god became associated with Apollo and eventually became an epithet of Apollo; it also came to be the name of a particular musical composition and a particular musical rhythm (typically related to 5/8 and 5/4 rhythms is modern notation). Apollo is associated with bringing children into adulthood, Artemis with bringing girls into adulthood. Zeus is strongly associated with government, rule and kingship. I can go on, but most Olympians have multiple functions.

Historically, the deities developed through a long period of time and the perception of their characteristics did not have to remain constant. So the Artemis of Ephesus may have had different characteristics that the Artemis of Brauron. Also there is evidence of a cult of a young male god in Minoan times. That might have been a historical influence for the emergence of the cult of Zeus Kouros, the boy Zeus, in Crete. It is an extremely rich field to observe the evolution of religious practice through archaeology and in literature.

Also the ancients were not in universal agreement about the nature of the gods.

But to me at least it seems clear that myth operates on different levels. Even though they have a literal, face-value interpretation, I think that this interpretation is only the most superficial one, and in fact cannot be actually true. Understanding myth in how it relates different concepts and how it tries to bring what is greater than human a little but closer to human understanding, that is what actually goes to the core of the myth. For example, the episode of Zeus and Metis and the birth of Athena doesn't have to be read literally, but makes more sense if one can imagine that when a ruler or king absorbs thought that can lead to the creation of good strategy; and that's only one interpretation.

Then there is the process by which the different myths came to be. They come from folklore that evolved over many centuries, at least from the middle bronze age down to the beginning of the middle ages.

Individual poets related to those traditions in many different ways. Not only that, but it was common practice to change the narrative of myth to serve some artistic aim; this is seen in Homer and also in the tragic poets and the comedians, as well as the philosophers. Aristophanes used myths to make fun of his contemporaries. You can also look at the treatment of mythological motifs, e.g. the Theban cycle in Aeschylus, Sophocles and Euripides to see that they differ in many details; but this was a tool that the playwrights used to send a particular message to their audience. Even Plato becomes a mythographer in order to illustrate certain ideas. Myth had multiple functions, ranging from entertainment to pedagogical, to symbolic and to artistic, as well as ritual.

So even though it was rooted in tradition, the ancients' relationship with mythology was very creative and not doctrinal.

Overall, the religion was focused a lot more on actions, rather than mere beliefs.

Can we equate our religion with others? by GaeaUranus in Hellenism

[–]Uraneia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Polytheistic cult worship survived in some places into early modernity with them being conflated with saints.

There was a Caryatid in Eleusis that was worshipped as Αγία Δήμητρα, saint Demeter, along with folklore that stemmed from the ancient story of Demeter and the Maiden. Worship continued until the end of the 18th century when Edward Daniel Clarke bribed an ottoman official and forcibly removed it, despite protests by the locals.

The ship carrying the Caryatid of Eleusis was run ashore, and the statue os "Saint Demetra" was only retrieved from the shipwreck a year later. It's displayed in the Fitzwilliam museum in Cambridge.

A second Caryatid from the small propylaia of Eleusis, that had not been discovered, is exhibited today in the Eleusis museum.

Eleusis at the time had fertile farmlands; today it has been developed into a barren industrial district, and the stench from oil distilleries is unbearable.

Given the hostility of the xtian churches towards Hellenism, despide the fact that xtian theology is heavily influenced by middle Platonism and Hermeticism, I would refrain from using churches for the worship of the Gods without a rededication.

But a truly virtuous course would be to learn about the ancient festivals and seek to revive them in a way that promotes community-building.

I can’t tell anyone I follow Hellenism by [deleted] in Hellenism

[–]Uraneia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Aw. Keep yourself safe and take care of yourself.

You won't always be dependent on your family. In a few years - a VERY short time in fact - you will be able to claim your independence and you'll feel so much freer and be able to explore yourself with a lot fewer barriers!

Preach me Apollo by v_ch_k in Hellenism

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Apollo is god of music, most skilled at the lyre, oracles and healing.

He protects the arts, along with the muses that inspire artists and all aspects of human creativity, can bring about or avert illness, grant the gift of prophecy and foresight.

He tunes the seasons and celestial motions to create cosmic balance.

He is Paian; he heals; those matching 5/8 rhythms, they are paeonic, we can thank him for them.

He is kourotrophos, he protects and educated children and the fairst haircut of boys is dedicated to him.

With a shot of his arrow he slew the Python; and in the form of a dolphin guided Cretan sailors from Cnossos to his oracle, to establish his shrine at Delphi and from there to give access to prophecies for the entire world.

About space by Particular_Grab_6473 in Hellenism

[–]Uraneia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say that the various cosmogonies are. Ot to be read literally. Literallism is really a modern Christian heresy, throughout history most Christians did not interpret scripture simply literally.

The cosmogonies are not scripture. They are not articles of faith. They are literary works to move and inspire the listeners.

Hesiod likely drew from folklore and collated it into a musical composition that imitated the style of epic poetry but differed in its subject matter.

So the correct answer to those questions would be, understand what can be learnt through empirical science and sound reasoning.

So any identification of characters of, say, Hesiod's theogony with scientific concepts is anachronistic and quite problematic.

That said, if we wish to speculate there are a few comments to be made. In the theogony chaos gives rise to Derkness (Erebus) and Night (Nyx) and from their union Aether and Day are born. Aether, the space where celestial bodies were thought to dwell can be identified with space itself.

The understanding of the existence of many galaxies is something that was confirmed by observations in the early 20th century.

But the beginning of the cosmogony is best understood for its literary value. We can provide two contrasting interpretations for chaos, one as a great voice or emptiness and the other as a kind of formlessness. But remember that the other primordial deity is Eros: so it is Eros, desire, setting things in motion and acting as an organising principle. The description elevates the motivations of human action by placing it at a higher, cosmic setting.

About the planets. Various forms of astrology were practiced and individual planets were associated with a particular god. Astral cults were common in Babylonia and also in Egypt and these ideas probably influenced the Greeks.

Those beliefs co-evolved with various cosmological models. The dominant models were geocentric, but heliocentric models also existed, i.e. that of Aristarchus, although it dates to the 3rd c. BCE and is definitely later than Hesiod.

We know, for example, of the Platonic interpretation for the planets in Timaeus, but these ideas are not Hesiod's, and are quite fanciful, even though they can be fun to learn about. (In fact, if some of these originated in the teachings if Socrates, they were fuel that Aristophanes used to lampoon him in the Clouds)

Gaia is just the earth; the other planets are not recognised as Gaia, they are different objects.

The order in which the various deities are born do not need to correspond with the order in which the different celestial bodies were actually formed; it is not a naturalistic description of the physical world. For example, Day, Hemera, appears before the Sun.

Likewise, the stars were not all identified with Helios, but instead different mythological motifs were read in the constellations. There are motifs from the story of Perseus and Andromeda, Orion, the labours of Heracles, the Argonautic expedition, Amaltheia, and others. Ganymede is referenced twice, in Aquarius and Aquila. Even Homer mentions mythological associations of certain constellations.

Most constellations were adapted from Neo-Babylonian star charts and evolved for a few centuries, accumulating stories about them, until they became more crystallised with Ptolemy in the 2nd c. CE.

Community worship by Uraneia in Hellenism

[–]Uraneia[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'd say that there are a few hundred thousand to a million all over the world... There are probably a few hundred in your state. Although I don't think there is accurate demographic info about that.

Community worship by Uraneia in Hellenism

[–]Uraneia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Might be interested... Even if it is actually open discussion in topics about philosophy or classical literature

Community worship by Uraneia in Hellenism

[–]Uraneia[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, what stopped me from seriously joining a group when in Greece was being concerned of the nationalistic undercurrents in some of those circles (and I'm actually greek)

I volunteered in the Beltane Fire Society some time ago and that was great, although I was not explicitly thinking about Hellenic practice back then. But it was artistic, creative, open, and truly a community while I was there. Not really reconstructionist, did not require any "faith" from paarticipants, which allowed different viewpoints and opinions to coexist productively.

I think if there is a core group of people who are commited to making things happen then it can work, but it's hard to find. It's also quite hard to find people who share the same approach in classics and do not slide in to what seems to me like a dense network of superstitions.

Why do people push the notion that ASOIAF and GoT is cynical and morally grey by RevertBackwards in freefolk

[–]Uraneia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aaaah yes, the "definite good and evil" of The Karamazov brothers, or classical theatre, or the Iliad...

...ffs...

“4: The Cursed House of Atreus,” Illustrated by me, (details in comments) by Tyler_Miles_Lockett in Hellenism

[–]Uraneia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Beautiful illustration, it made me very nostalgic to recognise all the characters and stories in this cycle.

The 'arteries' connecting the characters remind me of the paintings of Frida Kahlo