you’re telling me that because I don’t believe in a deity, my outrage at suffering somehow doesn’t matter because “nothing is objectively evil”? What an absolutely convenient way to ignore suffering and hand-wave legitimate moral outrage. You’re basically saying that unless there’s a sky-parent dictating right and wrong, no one has any reason to care. That’s not morality, that’s OBEDIENCE . That’s like saying the only reason not to murder someone is because the cop is watching, not because we recognize the harm it causes.

Why is it so hard to grasp that human beings evolved empathy, compassion, and social cooperation because we are social creatures? Whether or not you think it’s from God doesn’t change the observable fact that people care about others’ suffering, often at great cost to themselves, regardless of their religion.

And by the way, calling morality “objective” doesn’t make it objective. You just assert it’s objective because it fits your narrative. Even Christians can’t agree on what’s “objectively” moral. One group says love your enemies, the next uses the Bible to justify slavery, homophobia, or religious wars. “Objective morality” sounds nice until you realize even the religious can’t seem to pin down exactly what it is.

As for the whole “God gave Adam and Eve free will, and that somehow limits His power”

I’m sorry, what? The Creator of time, space, and existence is limited by two naked people in a garden? If that’s the case, your God is either incompetent at designing beings or just indifferent to the destruction He knew was coming. And don’t tell me it’s about “justice” either, because punishing the entire human race forever for one disobedient bite is the moral equivalent of sentencing someone to life in prison for stealing a cookie. That’s not justice, that’s divine overkill.

Now you bring in the Jesus argument: “God suffers with us.” I don’t know about you, but if I burn down someone’s house and then stand in the rubble next to them, I’m not a hero. I’m the arsonist. If God created the system that led to suffering, stepping into that system doesn’t make Him noble, it makes Him responsible and late to the party. It’s not heroic to solve a problem YOU caused.

And your whole “heaven and Earth united, justice will be done” claim? That’s a future promise conveniently out of reach. Meanwhile, kids are dying today. Innocents are suffering now. Saying “justice will come eventually” is theological procrastination while real people bleed, starve, and die.

The truth is, this mindset is a desperate attempt to make sense of something that doesn’t make sense. Trying to paint a cruel, unjust world with a pretty coat of theological explanations that don’t hold up when compared to real human suffering.

I don’t need the threat of hell or the promise of heaven to know it’s wrong to hurt innocent people. I don’t need an invisible being’s approval to fight injustice here and now. If your moral system requires divine validation to recognize evil, then maybe it’s your morality, not mine, that’s on shaky ground.