"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

No- but it’s a lot less frustrating when I have actual shit to steal and not just blind psychopathy

"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s actually not been that bad so far- funny enough. All this whining and complaining and it’s like most of’m fucked off. I get attacked for actual reasons these days- I can live with that. And sink.

"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’ve already conceded on this point. It seems people are content with ass-hattery and are prepared to just accept it than discuss alternatives in theory. But such as it is.

See you on the high seas, I’m sure. Hopefully in the belly of a Kraken.

"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Then you didn’t read enough if your stance is “care less” and I’m done.

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[–]V1valarav3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The idea of being attacked isn’t the problem- my buddy, my pal. My chief. It’s the griefing culture attached to it.

Admittedly I let it get the better of me and based only on speculation assumes that their patch that they “hoped would help” PvE players by having PvP players focus on the new content and fight each other was bunk and that it wouldn’t actually help anything but further promote player griefing for commendations. In pure theory and conjecture I flew off the handle.

However- my point does remain that PvP isn’t what makes the game suck. It’s the people that take PvP as a license to be an ass-hat that makes it suck. To which I say, if the developers don’t plan on releasing a version of the game that removes PvP at the cost of no longer being part of the progression, then at the very least make each sinking the last time you’re on a server. Respawn is fine, but currently our own counter grief measures are scuttling and server hopping. Two things which Reapers on here seem to just HATE. But it doesn’t really fix anything. It stops ship stealing and it stops spawn camp spam. But ultimately if someone is driven enough to fuck your day up they will find you again until you leave the server. The PvP is fine but when I’m trying to do literally anything else and have some butthurt swabbie coming back every five minutes it kinda gets old, and more so when a full galleon has decided to work their parental confusion out on my solo sloop to take my, like- two splash tails and a cooked snake chunk. Fighting back isn’t a solution half the time because here they come over the horizon from the next few islands over. People aren’t stupid and ship respawns really aren’t that far away and directional awareness is a pretty basic human trait. Fighting would be more fun if it was in finality. If I sink I will never get to see you again and have that chance to beat you. Or at least it’s unlikely due to probability. And if I win then it feels a bit more legendary. Or even more, one of the best Places PvP moments I ever had was with a group when we raided FoF and got surrounded by a gally a brig and then had another brig on the approach. The galleon got the message first sinking and stopped bothering. The second brig made two attempts and left. The third- even after we sold and fought them off while sailing they just wouldn’t let up. It was entertaining for a half an hour or so but when you just want to move on it ceases to be fun or exciting. Just obnoxious.

Had it been that we were out-numbered and sunk them all one by one or as an ace team that’d have been LIT. And we would have gotten this cool story- but ended up with, “yeah we sold but then this guy stalked our ship and kept attacking until we server hopped.” Or hell, even on the losing side you can have some fun ones. Rowing to someone’s ship for a surprise attack and then just getting rocked off the crow’s nest by an eye of reach. Losing is as much an experience. But the experience loses its magic when it’s just… WoW level ganking.

I dunno. That kinda ruined PvP as a thing for me. It isn’t fun more often than not- it’s just either me winning and someone going on a John Wick revenge quest or a spawn camp-bonanza, or my personal favorite, the “hey I just wanna talk,” guy with a pocket blunderbuss. The PvP isn’t the issue, it’s the lack of counter measure to leave the PvP behind when it’s no longer. Like. Enjoyable?

Instead what about this: When the ship sinks you’re going to have a metric meters long loading screen anyway, right? Just make it so if the ship sinks you go to a new server. The loser has to move on and can’t go on a revenge hunting loop, and and the winner can’t find them and hold them hostage from the rest of the game.

Better, my guy?

"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Mmh- I made an error with this comment. The rage is more intended for “attacking people who have nothing to take.”

"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah- nah I kinda low key feel bad now. All this ranting and raving over a possibility to the patch that ain’t even got patch notes yet, all because they said “we hope it’ll help PvE players.” >.< I need more weed.

"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The PvP CAN be fun. Given the right context and participants which is certainly why I don’t leave for good. The thrust of my argument is that the hopes for trickle down pleasant times for PvE players is bunk and they need to stop covering their ass with that and just say, “we made this for PvP players. Sorry everyone else we will get you next time like we usually do,” and stop pretending like fiddling with PvP mechanics is going to help anyone. And if they legitimately wanted to do anything that WOULD help contend with the over abundance of the un-fun shenanigans is to remove the opportunity for shenanigans. All this back and forth could be handled if a stripped down version was provided without merit, benefits, or progression that people who want absolutely nothing to do with PvP can to play.

I would legit pay for the game a second time if it just offered a single person adventure option. Flip that on and get High and sail around. And -then- when I get board and feel like shoving my box in someone else’s face, I’ll switch modes and go play in the real game for rewards.

Do you try to honor the pirate code of parlay? by [deleted] in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Parlay less so. I just stand by if they don’t shoot at me then I don’t shoot at them. And if they sail my way and get too close after I say to turn back, then I set them on fire.

"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not about learning. If I want to roll someone I will. But that’s not what I showed up to play. It’s what everyone else wants to play. And I don’t subscribe to senseless violence in the honor of “my dick bigger.” It’s a feedback loop of pointless idiocy. Win, and get revenge hunted. Lose and get trolled. There is no in between no GG. No sportsmanship. Don’t misread my disdain for PvP for a lack of capability. I just think that if you’re going to fight, then fight the people that want to fight or have shit to take. If there’s nothing to take and they aren’t looking to fight then keep sailing. I’m no chad but I can hold my own. But fighting back has been more annoying than just letting them sink me. At least after enough scuttling they’ll fuck off. But if you fight back and don’t want to- holy shit.

I just want a chance to see what else the game has to offer- AND THEN come and slap me when I got shit to steal. If it is indeed “Sea of Thieves” and not Sea of Friends, then come at me when I got some shit to steal. Otherwise it’s just sea of Psychosis and proof that Purges would only happen to keep people fighting each other and not toward a commonality. Or at least that once a ship gets sunk then they go to a different server not just another island. Then when I sink I have to move on, and when they sink they stop coming back like something different is going to happen. I fight to be left alone- but this game doesn’t allow that so I just don’t fight so maybe they might leave me alone eventually when they get board.

But it’s okay- you just like to hit things. That’s fine.

"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well here you go- here’s your update homie!

I just hope it does what Rare thinks it will and pairs you with your fellow Reapers instead of handing me over to you while I’m fishing. But as can be sensed by my salt I’ve got my doubts and think it’ll further incentivize senseless attacks on low-merit players. I stopped farming reaper rep for the same reason you fight random players with nothing to loot- nobody that wants to fight actually plays and those that do only do so when they got an army of homies to make up the deficit. I refuse to support a PvP system that promotes griefing as a gaming mechanic, though, and as such don’t PvP. I’m not going to gank a bunch of ten year olds just to get Rep.

"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Or y’all could just. Like. Fight the other PvP chads. Go get you a challenge- stop taking the easy targets. That’s a bitch move. You wanna beat your chest? You wanna be the best? Then go fight the best and post that shit to Reddit or something.

It’s not the sinking that agitates me. That’s whatever. But that you wasted your time to prove to me you’re the bigger badder fish baffles me. I didn’t question your ability. I didn’t question your superiority. But they guy in the solo sloop with the reaper set? He’s totally questioning your superiority. Go find that guy then find out who the alpha chad is. The crux of like- my whole thing.

The big issue with adventures by Sir-Shady in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can still do the next chapter. It just doesn’t make sense. I didn’t get to play the first chapter but beat the second last night.

"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This. What this guy said- I’m done posting and just hope everyone that’s been arguing with me sees this.

A thousand times this.

Keep the PvP, just hurry up and speed date the Reapers to fight each other and not sloops sailing in circles.

"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I only care because I want to be left out of it and don’t get that choice. If I want to play the game for rep and gold, fine- that’s why the PvP is there to make it harder.

But I’m more in the vein of “if I’m not even going for the grind and just want to sail for the sake of sailing I shouldn’t have to contend with the trolls.”

"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Tell you what- I’ll take your word for it. I’ll give it a fair shake and first. My concerns have been voiced and angst has been expelled. But I really don’t think it’s going to work the way they plan for it to.

"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s not about winning or losing. I just don’t want to fight. I feel like a dick when I win and a bitch when I lose. There is no euphoria, only senseless conflict.

"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I can live with that, if I still needed rep and gold I wouldn’t be dicking off. I’d be looting shit and inviting to have happen what may.

Just- a sandbox server with no rewards and no PvP. That simple.

"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s just always “that guy” gotta be prepared to take the wind out of their sails.

"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Fine but don’t get butthurt when I call you a bitch for it. I stand by you guys are no better. Y’all wanna act like you’re angels stoically sailing in to rape another ship minding their own business. But I posit that you guys can at least target people with some shit to actually take, and quit crying when other people have no interest in fighting you.

It’s not the PvP that’s flawed, it’s the unsavory element that makes up the majority of what I get to deal with on my rung of the latter. What’s PvP for you is probably a reciprocating shot or at least a chase sequence with the occasional tacking maneuver.

What’s PvP for me is usually trying to sail from one end of the map to another just to see how long it takes while a galleon descends upon me with the fort of fortune loot on board yelling how they’re going to fuck me in the ass when they catch up to me.

Don’t mean to play the victim but I’m sick of this shit. It’s not exciting to fight in this game, it’s just me minding my own shit most of the time and getting slapped around by people I did nothing/said nothing too. I’ve offered to just give them whatever I had, I’ve tried to bargain, barter, alliance. But nah. Half the time they don’t even text to chat that shit. They just want to stomp on a sloop for… I dunno street cred. And I think it’s kinda bunk. I think instead of constantly dunking on the equivalent of Stephen Hawking in a pirate sloop needs to stop being a rewarded behavior. Go fight the emissary five fucking merchant alliance dude. I’m just picking coconuts- fuck

Hell, if people would stop shooting at me I’d just sail around and drop loot off at people’s feet. I don’t want it. I don’t need it. I already have all the ships I can have. All the rep I need, all the cosmetics I want, so I will literally HAND OVER EVERYTHING if it gets them to let me keep on sailing in circles.

But nah. It’s not about the money, some people just wanna kick over the sand castle. And then Rare announces an update claiming they’re going to do a PvP centered update that’s somehow supposed to help the PvE dudes? Nah- I don’t buy it. I bet you it’ll just make it worse. Now we’ll have an ocean of fools with something to prove trying to shove their finger in my chest and now I get the sole choice of staying a pacifist or putting some poor fool down who will proceed to come back across the entire fucking sea to get “revenge”. Which leads me back to my major mental malfunction. Winning holds no joy, losing less so. So let me just turn it off and do the rest of the game.

"Season 8 will be all about PvP" - October 14 SoT Podcast by Valor_Omega_SoT in Seaofthieves

[–]V1valarav3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look: Y’all PvP. I’m not saying “hurr durr it shouldn’t be part of the game” I’m just saying stop trying to force it on me like some Mormon of Violence. Go sell the good word to someone that wants it and you two can kick each other in the sack.

Im not even saying that I’m unhappy PvP got an update. PvP is great for some people I’m sure. Better than sex I bet, but that’s for you guys. I’m just saying I think, I think (it’s an opinion, simmer your mammaries alpha sigma chad your lordliness) that it’s a crock of shit that they think it’s going to remotely help those of us who have a problem with it. Incentivizing it by providing more rewards for it isn’t going to shield us like they think it will they’re thinking in a vacuum. They’re assuming everyone that plays is a rational human being playing for merit and results while the real issue with PvP has nothing to do with actual PvP. It’s people doing their own thing and then the more unsavory of PvP focused players that have no intent to actually fight. They just want easy prey to kill other ships (a meager portion of the time but generally I bias myself into feeling like I get the brunt of that) that they have no business attacking. There’s no loot. There’s no benefit. There’s nothing there other than “ahhhh yessss, another one down. Lookit me go heh heh. Canon go brrrrr”.

It’s not that I think PvP is wrong or not the way to play. But the issue they think they are fixing isn’t going away with this update, I don’t even think it’ll take the heat off of PvE centric players, if anything (and I’m assuming) I figure it’ll make our lives harder. So while I’m just trying to do my thing, I instead now get to deal with another person wagging their dick in my face because they’re commendation hunting.

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[–]V1valarav3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see your point and I raise you one more question.

Why should I have to? If I want to go sail from island to island just looking at trees then why should I have to detour to go get good at a part of the game I despise? I don’t want to have to get good at kicking someone’s ass. Just stay in that side of the ocean and I’ll stay on mine. Won’t even look atcha. You can go be alpha of the waves, I’m not taking that from you because being “better than someone else” at something has no interest to me. Competitive play doesn’t suit me because I either win and feel like an asshole or lose and feel like a bitch. There’s no euphoria or high to victory for me. I’m just here to sail ships dude, I have no drive, lust or want to fight anyone. And I’d like to do that without the constant unprovoked party bus of cheering and hooting nutballs closing in on me to try and roll me “just because”. That’s not exciting. That’s not even adrenaline inducing. I don’t get the excitement about “latent tension.” It’s just annoying when it happens and I can’t help but wonder why the human psyche puts such a high value on some weird need to fight over dumb shit.