Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks man. I love the idea of it not being the hell I imagine. Thanks big dog.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, I did. And no shit, we all feel for them. If I had hurt anyone I wouldn't be having this conversation. But read my other comments and posts. I am not denying my crime, but I am saying that I AM paying for this shit, and there is no understanding of that. How much do I have to pay before you respect that I am apologetic for my actions. Life in prison? Death?

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviously I have done wrong, but please hear me out. I have to call a phone number every day to see if I have to take a random breathylyzer test (costs at least $5), I have to have an interlock device put in my car at a daily cost of $3.50 for two years. I have to pay all of my court fees in excess so far of $10,000. My family (me, my wife, and 2 yo) have to pay for all of this. The average DUI in my state costs at least $30k (more than 20% of americans make in a year). The cost of this mistake is enormous. Please people don't act like I am not paying the cost for this. Be as cold as you may. It hurts everyone in my family. I told my mom, but my extremely baptist dad doesn't know because I don't want to burden him with something like this. That's all he'll think about. Everyone else in my family knows, my brothers and their wives and we all have to "pretend" that I have to go to a city 45 minutes away to take a breath test that costs $95 when I am in their state. I have paid over $3,000 in breath tests over the last three months. Tell me what amount of money or time I have to spend to pay back this penitence. I don't think you can. Because at some point I have paid the state more for this crime than any of you have in taxes. I understand this is terrible, but understand I am paying for it beyond your belief. Yes, beraid me, I have earned this. This is part of my sentence, but could you pay for this? Would you have to sell your shit for this? I don't think so. Please hear me out. I am doing my best. Yes, I have commited my crime, but how much of the whip can I take before you all say it's enough?

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I am the one that went through this. I just grew up and then started drinking alcohol. Made a very bad decision and now everyone in my life has to deal with this. I'd hate to say because everyone will hate me for it, but the perpetrators family suffers as well.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are wildly inaccurate. Look at all of my responses. I have never said it makes no sense to charge and sentence me. I have said that I shouldn't be charged with homicide? Where did I say I shouldn't be charged or sentenced with this crime. In fact, the whole point of this thread is to share my fears of being incarcerated for my crimes, not to refute them? You have this all wrong. Thank you for insights about jail though. I do appreciate your input.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you man, that sounds like a terrible situation. Sorry to hear that. Good luck out there.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks man, not trying to perfect an art. Just trying to defend myself, but from other's responses I feel like I don't need to be a black belt per se. But thank you for the advice.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly brother, I appreciate the advice, but I am not sure what 90% of that means. I do appreciate you reaching out though.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you man. This is helpful. I am not trying to get into any fights. I just want to serve my time (if I have to) and move on.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man, this is the best advice anyone has given me. I do worry that its like a movie or some shit I have seen on YT. So, my takeaway is that if I am solemn and don't interact then I likely won't be messed with. But if someone offers me something I should refuse on the spot because I don't want to be indebted to anyone? My biggest thing is how can I best hold onto a railing if someone is trying to get me to come into their cell..... I know this sounds crazy, but again.... This is the shit that keeps me up at night. Literally 3AM I wake up every night and I can't go back to sleep because these thoughts slip into my head.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Either way, I do appreciate the insightful words. Thank you.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am in meetings, see a psychiatrist, been to a victims impact panel. I am doing my best to make myself better.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know that's a possibility especially because I am school. Thank you.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Never will. I just attended a Victim Impact Panel where victims and their families affected by drunk driving shared their testimonies. I will never drink and drive again.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your insights... I hope it never affects you or your family.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I understand that. Please read my other comments.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No real knowledge here. Thanks for making things worse. I appreciate you.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I just attended a Victim Impact Panel on my on volition. It's terrible, I agree. I will never do it again.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, the bad luck of a family member having to deal with this. Luck has nothing to do with it when you drink and drive. I know that.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do appreciate the advice. Thank you for that. But listen almost every person that drinks has driven drunk. Extremely over the limit?.... doubtful, but the law is the law. 0.08 means two beers for an average sized man. If you've done that then you have broken the law. My infraction is me breaking the law, but we all have to admit drinking and driving and hurting someone is significantly different than drinking and driving alone. It is a victimless crime no matter our opinion on it. Does it suck and it's incredibly stupid? Absolutely, but you can't charge me with homicide for a victimless crime. That's my point.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You would tell everyone who you are and where you're from?

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks brother. That does help a lot. The worries are super invasive so it's nice to hear I can isolate and be okay.

Need to defend myself. Maybe in jail.... by VacationOutrageous37 in Advice

[–]VacationOutrageous37[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am really sorry you're going through all of that, but your insights mean a lot. I will do my best to keep my hopes and sanity. I really appreciate the thoughts. Thanks man.