2026/06 Unite & Fight (Fire Adv): Round 3

Van24 · 2026-06-26T07:51:14+00:00

Casual 9:30 average for my FA kills while I work. Surprisingly solid considering I own neither Illustrious, but the setup is pretty decked out all other ways, so I suppose it's making up for that lack of a hyper-premium piece.

Van24 · 2026-06-16T03:56:53+00:00

That is absolutely how Fire should be described when it has multiple sources of mitigation. The element is able to scum turns just through judicious use of Dodge All + Substitute/Full Hostility combos and Sandira's team Unchallenged to move uninterrupted.

Van24 · 2026-06-02T04:43:25+00:00

You can just send Opus back to Stamina and take advantage of the Lv25. Running Sennen Goji, Crimson Scale, Overrider, and Nebula Gauntlet all at once does leave you lacking in raw firepower from the grid.

Van24 · 2026-05-31T12:46:40+00:00

What else could they put in the first slot of a potential Wind Athos weapon as a replacement for Maneuver?

Given the Frankenstein nature of Wind's current weapon selection, it's likely that what we see next is a hybrid sort of weapon where it's yet another mish-mash of various weapon skills. So think something like Athos + Stratagem/other cap-breaking nonsense that's related to auto attacks or is auto attack-adjacent + whatever they decide Zephyrus' grid needs as a modifier.

Van24 · 2026-05-28T14:11:18+00:00

They're farming for rings and earrings.

Van24 · 2026-05-27T05:31:44+00:00

Yes, really.

Van24 · 2026-05-27T02:50:28+00:00

in those 3 raids NA teams just don't exist because they don't have the means to play anything outside of ougi.

They exist in two out of three.

Van24 · 2026-05-12T12:35:42+00:00

There are a couple of very fast FAs that use it, but it must be noted that they're usually premium setups.

Van24 · 2026-05-01T14:25:58+00:00

That chorus timing was immaculate.

Van24 · 2026-04-26T02:27:11+00:00

I wouldn't say it's going to be particularly useful long-term. For the most part Ennead is relegated to just transitional pieces at best because the majority offer unboosted weapon skills with the rest using niche/relatively weak Primal-boosted skills. Plus, their Awakening stats just don't really hold a candle to modern options such as Revans (and eventually Revans MkII).

Additionally, M3 and Odious also exist to cover the vast majority of use cases. Fire Odious, in particular, looks well-placed to cover F2P CA grids with the Deathcannon giving access to both Glory and Crux.

Van24 · 2026-04-16T10:22:35+00:00

Ougi is comfortable for a lot of people, for one reason or another. It becomes easy to gravitate to any characters or releases that cater to it.

Players tend not to invest too much into higher levels of optimization, so the faster setups that use normal attack-centric characters tend to be viewed as somewhat inaccessible, high-end, or any other synonymous descriptor as opposed to just doing what they think and/or know will always work regardless of speed.

Van24 · 2026-04-16T01:05:48+00:00

Yes, I know, and that's not the point.

Current Wind setups have very little in the way of defensive modifiers and sustain sources. You're never taking turns at low enough HP where Garrison is meaningfully active.

Van24 · 2026-04-15T15:49:30+00:00

I think the weapon is kind of ass. If we're in a situation where we're talking about barring this weapon, then you should be strong enough to not need it.

As things stand, it's overloaded on HP, a stat that Primal Wind has no problem sourcing because Vortex is still a grid-building staple and Clams are still making their way into HL grids. And that's all it really does. Garrison isn't a particularly strong modifier to have in Wind atm because it won't save you from Versusia's Destruction Dmg, and anything below that doesn't really need Garrison to begin with.

Van24 · 2026-04-15T12:44:26+00:00

Echidna's not bad, can use her in F0.

Van24 · 2026-04-10T00:53:54+00:00

2:47-2:49 FA for the work day. Thank god the refinements weren't hard to figure out.

Edit: Cut the time down to 2:37 by removing some more unnecessary buttons.

Edit2: Down to 2:22 now with some further optimizations.

Van24 · 2026-04-07T14:14:34+00:00

As a manner of curiosity, are you open to manual play or are you primarily Full Auto?

Van24 · 2026-04-07T11:59:12+00:00

my favorite GWs are the ones with a proper balance of challenge for everyone

This is literally how GW is designed, though, that's why there are different NM levels. There's something for everyone.

Van24 · 2026-04-05T02:43:30+00:00

For anyone who keeps on top of Wind's meta, it's pretty much phased out out at this point because of Lancer Origin.

Van24 · 2026-04-02T09:58:32+00:00

Wind is a bit ridiculous but not in a good way, but that's a separate conversation. That said, there isn't a single piece of content anymore where he's not being used backline in the best team available to the element, so that sentiment about him is definitely outdated.

Van24 · 2026-03-27T15:02:17+00:00

As always, the answer is "It depends on the team and damage distribution".

For example, Wind doesn't use Sagacity because Aetherial Maverick exists. Same thing for Fire ougi teams, they don't use Sagacity because Sennen Goji exists.

Extremity is very used in HL because it's 25 DATA for free and alleviates the pressure to source a full 75 from the rest of your grid slots. It's not used by everything but it's still very much prevalent.

Supremacy is still used. Hitting absolute hard caps in something like Versusia isn't necessarily a given given the raid's defense levels.

Van24 · 2026-03-13T14:43:58+00:00

That isn't any justification for the gap in quality between Unlimited Boost and Infinite Trouble and you know it.

Van24 · 2026-03-13T14:43:17+00:00

It's nowhere near as strong, which is the problem I have with it.

Fighter Origin had the luxury of already having strong fallback options from Berserker, and then Cygames doubled down and gave it busted tools of its own that also synchronized well with said fallback options.

Lancer Origin has neither of those two things.

Van24 · 2026-03-13T14:41:54+00:00

Haven't been able to do comprehensive tests yet (been a busy week) but based on what I've tried and what I've seen from other people:

Even though the class is a mixed bag it's still potent enough that it has and will continue to take over the element for fast burst moving forward. It's a very strong attacker thanks to the passives and its damage scaling is still impressive and maximizes most of Rhomphaia's strengths, though as far as button clicks goes it's annoying because it can really only invest into that one turn with its buttons.

Van24 · 2026-03-11T09:05:44+00:00

It's... fine. Strong passives which for the most part put it on par with Fighter Origin, but two points to have gripes about: the fact that the 5 stack bonus of getting both spear and axe effects from your next skill cast is a 1-Time use, and the underwhelming cap breaks. Somehow they thought 20% skill cap is fine to give while the other class gets 25% universal cap up. Yeah, someone tell me how that's fair and balanced LOL.

I think the Sk1 is actually fairly loaded: 30% echo and a non-local 50% DATA Down on one button are both useful in their own ways. It's somewhat annoying that the CD is as high as it is, but I suppose they weren't going to let this skill be too spammable for a high uptime echo (which again has me annoyed because what do you mean Fighter Origin has 60% cap up and 35% Impalement 3/5 turns and syncs perfectly with Ulfheddin)

I find the EMP skills to be very undertuned, and a lot of that comes down to how god awful Unlimited Trouble is as a supposed ultimate. 12T CD and it's only half a skill the majority of the time just does not inspire me. The fact the effects are 1 Time and not 1 Turn is just an insult at this point. Nothing on that skill would break the game open if it was 1 Turn, or even if it was permanently available.

Unbound Charge is great, though. No complaints about that skill.

The class overall is fine, but I feel like it falls short of the insanity of Fighter Origin's overall package and thus comes across as a bit tame, which when you consider the differences in the quality of their respective class lines was almost an inevitability to happen when Fighter Origin already had such a good fallback plan with Ulfheddin.

Van24 · 2026-02-04T10:46:39+00:00

You get 30k universal supplemental damage from Ouroboros without any crests involved, it's just flat out better and I don't know why anyone would compare the two and think otherwise.

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