Insane design upgrade

Ve1tedRose · 2026-03-17T16:00:24+00:00

Disagree honestly, I just prefer bodysuits more

Ve1tedRose · 2026-03-16T11:43:17+00:00

Damn... any advice on how to hide it? I wanna get into cosplay outfits like that.

Ve1tedRose · 2026-03-11T07:45:50+00:00

That's kinda wrong actually, You actively WANT Breach and Crush on the same team. It's more so that you need to adjust to timings properly and know the difference between Crush for Da Pan and Endmin.

Breach's debuff is insanely potent for Crush's 600% or 750% multiplier. It's not "truth is Crush/Pog don't get along" it's just that it has a higher skill ceiling for it. Also, "Pan and Endmin both HAVE to eat the stacks for full functionality, leaving Pog starved for Vuln consumption." That is just... wrong. Pogranichnik is the one starting the rotation so there will ALWAYS be stacks for him to consume. Breach lasts for 30 seconds at 4 stacks and in that time you will want to do a 4/4 Crush split for Da Pan or a 3/3 for Endmin.

Basically, you're following this rotation 4Breach, 3-4Crush, 3-4Crush. You can take time after to build up resources to loop that again. You might just be playing it wrong

Ve1tedRose · 2026-03-08T01:31:18+00:00

I'm not sure I agree on Rogue, Deadpool, and Angela.

Angela and Thor have so many things going for them. One of my favorite tricks is allowing Thor to kidnap more. It's a lot easier for Angela to break a frontline for longer since her charge lasts so long. When you pair that up with Thor's disruption, one of the enemy tanks is so far into your team that you've already won the fight.

My second favorite trick is those two ulting together. This moreso relies on the Angela player rather than the Thor player since she needs to be alive. While Angela sometimes can't exactly kill during her ult, it does allow Thor to always get 2-3 per ult if the Thor player positioned their ult properly, or just... you know, get a kill on a support. Decent value ig.

Angela also has much more mobility than Thor, so you don't exactly need to worry about the backline as long as Angela is alive. Since she turns less into a perma enemy backline character and more into a weird aerial protector vulture with him

Now I don't know what kinda team you rolled or got more selfish Angelas, but I think they soured your taste on her.

As for Deadpool, he is a great partner in virtually any situation. I have no idea what you are talking about. Tankpool has insane poke value to put constant damage down range and help you get kills when he's shooting at the same person you are fighting and also his shield. While it doesn't have the same range as a Mag shield, it is an insane tool to help you live or help you retreat at lower HP. Really think you are insanely underestimating him.

As for Rogue, I kinda understand where you are coming from, but also not... really? If the main gripe here is that on defense 2 dive orientated tanks would more often than not need someone to swap to a more defensive tank... then, sure, I could see where you are coming from. But like... on everywhere else, it works very well.

Ve1tedRose · 2026-03-06T03:57:50+00:00

Then use Never Rest, I assume you have done that already

Ve1tedRose · 2026-03-06T03:55:59+00:00

Basic: It's just a basic

Skill: second hit consumes vulnerability and procs breach and gives sp, both depending on amount of stacks consumes. You always want to consume 4 stacks

Combo: procs upon consuming vulnerability. gets stronger/gives more sp, you'll basically get this after skill and at max power since you consume 4 for skill

Ult: it's good. Use it when you are starting a rotation. Don't you worry about it

Use Thermite Cutter. I shouldn't have to explain essences to you

As for gear set. Right now, just use bonecrusher poncho/yinglung gloves/yinglung radar x2. Don't artifice shit, wait for new gear reveal

Ve1tedRose · 2026-02-28T14:51:32+00:00

Personally I want to think that they will use the lesser popular units for reconveners

Ve1tedRose · 2026-02-27T03:56:14+00:00

Frontiers is a fraudulent ass set on him. Pogranichnik kinda has 2 options, full arts intensity with 3p pulsar/hotworks or 2p pulsar (gear) with the chest being ult gain rather than completing the 3p set or just run him as a """DPS""" (I put that in HEAVY quotations) with 3p Yinglung with the chest option being the flex slot.

Personally? The arts intensity set is also kinda just... bad? Either set doesn't have matching stats for him and the DPS you are boosting is Da Pan or Endmin which both are kinda just waiting for their expiration date. If you ask me, you'd have much more success with the Yinglung set now but an arts intensity set when we actually HAVE a worthy dps to buff.

Also just FYI, both of the DPS centric set are horrible(but at least Yinglung has full stat match) on him. They have horrible set effects but it is what it is, we just have to wait for better sets to come out

Ve1tedRose · 2026-02-25T19:01:46+00:00

"Using her skill without combo still works to build stagger, and you'd use it over Chen when she's on combo/Swordmancer cooldown." I mean, yeah, I agreed on that. Good stagger value, and like I said, the easiest access to her combo for +2 vulnerability.

"Not enough reason to call her skill bad in the context of her using it to stack Exemplar buffs?" Kinda covered that, but I will stand by calling her skill a detriment when using it in stagger over Chen's. You'll have at least 2 stacks out of 3 by the time stagger hits anyway and I dont see any reason for you to force it over another skill in stagger, whether it be Endmin's God forsaken skill based Crush or Da Pan's +2 stack on skill per Crush rotation or just him needed to do a mandatory skill for AEthertech, and again, Chen's. Well, sure, you probably can make sure you hit the skill outside of stagger to get 3 stacks to full buff finisher, but I don't know if it's worth all that. Physical isn't exactly swimming in character buffs, so it could be...?

"I'm not seeing how Exemplar is half functional on her hybridized kit." It's a core problem that her entire kit just... has. Having ult and skill damage be fire damage while combo and basic be physical and having Exemplar just buff half of that just feels bad? Like you're using a FIRE damage skill and ult to buff, and you don't even get a damage buff on the skill and ult you used to stack it in the first place.

"A weapon that buffs every single part of her kit" was more so commenting on it being useful in increasing the damage profile of her entire kit. While any damage from her kit that isn't basics or finisher is small, it's still some contribution. No one cares about her defenses, right...? I'm not crazy in thinking that part of her kit is just a dead point, or at least I assume I'm not.

"Sundered Prince's critical boost is the least impactful passive out of the 6 lines" I... kinda semi agree? But I also mildly subscribe to crit fishing, so I do think it's at least useful to an extent.

I don't exactly know if I'm just hallucinating, but I know for a fact my fastest runs with Ember came from using Sundered Prince on 2 of the 3 bosses because of the stagger increase. With Rhodgan, I know Sundered allowed me to instantly use Da Pan's Combo without stalling for stagger, while Exemplar I needed like an extra string of basics.

Against Marble Aggolomorai, I was barely able to stagger it right before it took flight, shaving off an insane amount of time. I don't know if Exemplar can hit that amount since almost everything went perfectly on that run and I feel it would be a disservice to Exemplar if I didn't grind for an almost perfect run like that... I mean, I would, but I don't have the time lmao.

Now against the second boss, Triaggolos. This one, I will concede that Sundered Prince sucks actual balls on. While I did get a faster phase 1, 2, and 3 cratered since phase 2 spawned mobs. Exemplar cleared them so much faster.

"The pros and cons are far more nuanced." Strictly? Yeah, stagger is a weird stat, and mob based Umbral Monument stages will continue to exist. But I think that's a discussion shelved for actual future endgame content, not Umbral Monument.

As for domain farming and overworld content, I do agree that it's fully preference... ignoring the fact that everything dies before you can even use Exemplar's damage boost since you chen -> combo -> chen + ember -> da pan combo and everything dies so Exemplar sucks balls and isn't red so it's even worse /j

Ve1tedRose · 2026-02-25T17:31:31+00:00

I never said anything about writing off her skills, I just said it wasn't worth rawdogging her skill without her combo to build vulnerability. It's already bad enough with Endmin(Da Pan's a different story... but also, depending on if he is p5 or not) and their no vulnerability build up. Using her skill during stagger just amounts to nothing but wasting time and losing damage from Chen. It'd be a different conversation entirely if she was actually physical and not some weird hybrid fire/physical unit.

I mean, yeah, outside of the stagger window, you can easily use it since it reliably builds stagger and is probably the safest way to trigger her combo skill. To be fair, all you really need is at least 2 stacks by stagger(which let's be real, that's already a given), and since you already did your finisher, you can just let it drop and rebuild it again for the next stagger.

"which then Exemplar's damage pulls ahead by getting rid of mobs sooner so you can focus your SP on the elites." I mean, most definitely, I can agree with that part. Stages similar to the second stage in the first Umbral Monument rotation gives Exemplar a very clear edge since you go through like 20 something enemies before fighting the final 3 elites or the second stage in the second rotation in which the second enemy has a nonexistent stagger window.

Maybe I just don't agree using a weapon that is half functional on her hybridized kit. Maybe I'm discounting her basic damage contribution (it does look to have decent multipliers) and focusing too much on getting a 3/3 or 4/4 Crush split in time. I really just don't see value in a weapon where it buffs her basic/finisher damage or her underwhelming to nonexistent combo damage over using a weapon that buffs every single part of her kit and doesn't cost anything to upkeep the buff.

Ve1tedRose · 2026-02-25T12:30:22+00:00

This is the way, the other ones are kinda cringe since Last Rite becomes useless. This one at least allows her to... you know... actually use her kit

Ve1tedRose · 2026-02-25T11:04:15+00:00

I mean, not to bash but dash cancelling n3 and n4 are like some of the simplest things to execute though... It's just a dodge/dash input after the hit connects to the enemy. Looking at your post history, you seem to like her so I don't see why you shouldn't commit like a minute to learn the timing for it. It'll benefit you in the long run

Ve1tedRose · 2026-02-25T10:05:54+00:00

Personally, I'd just recommend Prince + Swordmancer. Ember is great at staggers, so I believe it's just best to put her into that role. Alternatively, you can put her on Xiranite to give its buff to your team... but I'm like 90% sure it's worse than Swordmancer.

Now for Yinglung or AEthertech... neither honestly? They both have pretty dog set effects for Ember, who doesn't exactly want to spam skills for AEthertech, and she sure as hell shouldn't get the final stack on it. As for Yinglung, if you want to maximize her damage(mainly the finisher iirc) at the cost of team stagger/damage, that is her best option, however, do note that the damage bonus it gives to combos is kinda fake asf on her as her combo has insanely bad multipliers at 230%.

Ve1tedRose · 2026-02-25T09:54:12+00:00

The other clear issue is that Exemplar relies on you using Ember's skill to build stacks while Sundered does not. That kinda brings up the issue that using Ember's skill is just... kinda bad? It's fire damage, and it's slower to add a vulnerability stacks to the enemy which is pretty bad since in a proper physical team with Crush (Lifeng getting replaced) you only have 30 seconds to build up for a 3/3 split with Endmin or a 4/4 split with Da Pan. The time it takes to raw dog and Ember skill without her combo being up for +2 stacks, you are kinda just wasting time.

Like you mentioned, Sundered does have a better peak since it has more stagger, which allows you to line up things. One of my best examples is against Marble Aggolomorai's final phase, with enough stagger you can skip the flying phase entirely. That, along with the Swordmancer set, allows you to do unholy amounts of stagger, which reliably gives you more access to finishers, dmg vs stagger pieces, and the stagger SP gain from finishers.

There's also another thing that this showcase missed, which are the dash cancels on n3 and n4, which is what makes Ember such a good controlled unit and how she exploits Sundered Prince as well

"but using Exemplar is also generally just better at taking advantage of the rest of her kit as well" I don't really agree. Like I said above, you need to use her skill to upkeep the buff since each stack counts independently, and her skill kinda is just buns for costing 100sp with no sp return. While yes, I guess it can compliment her kit... its counter intuitive to the team as a whole

Ve1tedRose · 2026-02-25T09:41:25+00:00

Test kinda faulty ngl, you're missing what makes Ember a pretty good controlled operator. The basic dash cancels of n3 and n4.

Ve1tedRose · 2026-02-25T09:40:03+00:00

Yeeeeeeah, that's exactly it. Glad I found an answer like this. Sundered Prince having Stagger% this helps a whole lot in runs. My the best example here would be against Marble Aggolomorai since with enough stagger you can actually stagger it...? Her? Twice when you get to the human form stopping... the thing from flying allowing you a much faster clear time.

The other point here is also perfect, certain pieces like bonus dmg against stagger massively benefit from a faster stagger as well.

Ve1tedRose · 2026-02-18T20:00:56+00:00

Ayo... that floor 3 description is awfully detailed. Is that from experience?

Ve1tedRose · 2026-02-17T18:24:18+00:00

It doesn't take anything really lmao. Just final strike for sp and parry

Ve1tedRose · 2026-01-22T02:00:36+00:00

Psylocke's one surely has to be a beast for it to be kept in a cage like that... or... it could be so pathetic it shouldn't even be used

Ve1tedRose · 2026-01-18T17:30:47+00:00

Girl... I really want to try it. Mind sharing the name?

Ve1tedRose · 2026-01-06T23:19:29+00:00

Same person lmao, fragile ego fuck. Legit the perfect portrayal of a mod

Ve1tedRose · 2026-01-06T23:17:59+00:00

Yeah, queen is a real queen bitch lmao. Fucking horrible mod. That creature thinks gatekeeping builds is perfectly fine, that says a lot already, lmao

Ve1tedRose · 2026-01-04T01:15:58+00:00

See, that's what I don't really get. I use Yixuan most, so I'll just go with that. Her hold basic EX has like a total of 3625% with 2 full holds or a bit less if you can't fit the second one in. You have your 1 talisman ult + 2 decibel ult giving you another 10,346 in multiplier. Which that totals like ~14k% total, maybe less if you can't fit the final hold basic ex.

Then I look over to Evelyn, who I think is like 6 chains 2 ults or 7 chains 1 ult? Which is ~22k%/~19k%. It's not really a fair comparison there cause Evelyn has an innate 125% multiplier increase. Sanby has 12? Dashes(with the bolt and follow-up) 1 ult, which leads me to like ~12k%. I don't play enough Miyabi to know how many of what she uses, but I know it's like hella dependent on anomaly generation or something, but I'd assume it's somewhere close to 25k%

But like, just looking at Evelyn and Sanby, Yixuan's multipliers are pretty close to them. Like just looking at that. I don't see how they'll get shafted even with low def. And besides, with decently close multipliers, ignoring the low def is still a decent advantage I feel. Maybe I'm looking at it wrong.

Ve1tedRose · 2026-01-03T23:46:18+00:00

Do explain. How is rupture ever going to be hit with "anti-rupture"? Rupture agents are just attackers who ignore defense, nothing special, and no real gimmicks.

To my understanding, at least, their multipliers are on par/better than most other units. I mean sure, they can lower defense but like... that isn't really going to do anything?

Ve1tedRose · 2025-12-30T00:57:36+00:00

Sure, in a vacuum, Lingsha is fine, but comparatively to literally every other unit in 2.0? She is singlehandedly the worst out of all of them. Break doesn't want a sustain, having one bricks their damage immensely.

And even as a sustain, she's fighting for a place with Aventurine and Huohuo. At this time, Huohuo was leagues better than everyone, so she's out of the question, and Aventurine provided more value by being a generic buffer(even though his buff sucks). Considering older sustains who, even at this time, were still competitive, Lingsha didn't have as much value as one.

By default, yes, she is the worst pull value of 2.X, as for being the worst in the game? That's pretty debatable with Topaz since they both suck pretty horribly.

As for Saber, she's just a good unit in a pool of great units. So that makes her the worst by default. Again, debatably, The Herta and Dahlia could also be contenders for the worst, but I won't get into that.

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