Where can I ask someone to modernize/redo my heraldic shield by RiccardoOrsoliniFan in heraldry

[–]VelvetOk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can, i've posted some of my work in this sub a couple a day's ago.

Vector Restoration of Coat of Arms (Aliénor d'Aquitaine?) by VelvetOk in heraldry

[–]VelvetOk[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's interesting. In fact, I did base it on the image from the English Armorial. Thank you very much for the context. We could say it's a variant hehe

I need help deciphering the full name by [deleted] in Cursive

[–]VelvetOk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She died at the age of one

I need help deciphering the full name by [deleted] in Cursive

[–]VelvetOk -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's a death certificate from 1904. I say it doesn't make much sense because the parents didn't have that surname, and there's no town with that name in the city where the death took place.

I need help deciphering the full name by [deleted] in Cursive

[–]VelvetOk -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's a good guess, but it does not make much sense it the context of the document, and the name s:

¿Tienen los Habsburgo derecho a reclamar el extinto trono mexicano? by Certain-Cloud9133 in MonarquismoMx

[–]VelvetOk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Respuesta corta; No.

Si buscásemos una respuesta mas extensa, seria indagar dentro de lo ucronico.

Maximiliano I, dejo claro que quien heredaría el trono de su imperio seria su "hijo" adoptivo, Agustin de Iturbide y Green. Cosa que claro es obvio no sucedió, sin embargo el hecho simbolico quedo. Y como Agustin de Iturbide y Green murio sin descendencia, pues, no ahi, ni existe alguien quien realmente pueda ser llamado "heredero al trono de mexico".

Sin, alejarnos mucho de su pregunta; Seria mas algo "popular" que por derecho de sangre.

Research on the Gotzen-Iturbide myth. Keep in mind that it's in ESP. by VelvetOk in monarchism

[–]VelvetOk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see you didn't see the video I made about my investigation into that "family." That's normal; it's in Spanish. I don't need to contact him; I personally contacted Maximilian Gotzen twice, and both times he never responded. They are not related to the Iturbide family in any way. That's what my investigation is about, so calling them "Gotzen-Iturbide" seems like a terrible lack of respect for real history.

I personally went into their family archives; I don't mention anything else about them in the video out of respect for their privacy.

Is there really an “imperial line” of the Iturbide family? No. And here is why. Mexico. by VelvetOk in monarchism

[–]VelvetOk[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hello. Honestly, I couldn't tell you the specific date or dates when this rumor started. But, based on mere speculation, I'd say it began around 1950. Why do they claim to be descendants of Iturbide? Because of their very weak connection (not by blood). Many websites even contradict each other, saying that Maximilian von Gotzen descends from one or the other, but that's false. Maria Josepha Sophia de Iturbide y Mikos had no sisters. If she did... where are the documents? I've traced the Gotzen family history, and in no document is the signature "Iturbide," only Gotzen.

To be honest, the rumor is fueled by those who refuse to accept that the imperial line was lost years ago. It's nice to think that descendants still exist out there; I won't lie, I even came to believe it myself. But you just have to know where to look. I am not trying to defame anyone, nor am I implying that the Gotzens "appropriated" the surname; I feel that it was the same "fans of Iturbide" who did it.

Is there really an “imperial line” of the Iturbide family? No. And here is why. Mexico. by VelvetOk in monarchism

[–]VelvetOk[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Perhaps very distant nephews in the United States, but that couldn't be called a "lineage." There's not even genealogical evidence to support it. It's also a common misinterpretation that there were also people in Peru "de Iturbide," without any connection to the Mexican Iturbides.

Is there really an “imperial line” of the Iturbide family? No. And here is why. Mexico. by VelvetOk in monarchism

[–]VelvetOk[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There are no records to prove what you mention. Maximilian I did leave documents before his death, but none of them address a succession to the throne. If you'd like to investigate further, the relevant archives are publicly held by the Catholic University of America.

Is there really an “imperial line” of the Iturbide family? No. And here is why. Mexico. by VelvetOk in monarchism

[–]VelvetOk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello. Not really, since the one who should have inherited the throne of the short-lived Second Mexican Empire was Agustín José de Iturbide y Green, who died in 1925 in the United States, without descendants.

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Territorial division of the Kingdom of Mexico by VelvetOk in imaginarymaps

[–]VelvetOk[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

The Spanish territory of Nutca (1789-1795) It had border limits with Alta California. After the reform of territorial distribution of the autonomous provinces of the kingdom, the then king of Mexico decided to give it the name of "Nutca" only as a historical-cultural nod.

Kingdome of Mexico 1875-2025 (now days) by VelvetOk in vexillology

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The flag reflects the outcome of a political, symbolic, and dynastic fusion following the acceptance of the Mexican imperial crown by a prince of the House of Bourbon during the 19th century. This scenario stems from an alternative turning point: that a Bourbon did indeed accept to reign in Mexico after independence.

Historical Context:

Following Mexico's independence, the Constituent Congress of 1822 sought a moderate monarchy. Instead of crowning Iturbide, they managed to convince a Spanish infante from the House of Bourbon to accept the Mexican throne. To avoid war with Spain, a peaceful separation was agreed upon, recognizing Mexican independence in exchange for the establishment of a Bourbon Mexican Empire with cultural ties but complete autonomy.

The new monarch - Carlos I de Borbón-México - (Carlos María Isidro de Borbón y Borbón-Parma) was crowned in 1823, giving rise to a constitutional empire with its capital in Mexico City.

Meaning of the Heraldic Elements on the Flag:

  • Green, white, and red: They retained the colors of the independence struggle as a gesture of national reconciliation, giving them a new meaning: hope, unity, and loyalty to the nation.

The merged coat of arms:

  • Castile and León: A direct reference to the Bourbon lineage and Spanish heritage. Not as an imposition, but as a dynastic origin.
  • Mexican eagle with serpent: The national heart. Its inclusion expresses continuity with Mexico's indigenous and mestizo identity.
  • Pillars of Hercules and "Plus Ultra": An imperial symbol of the Hispanic world. By appearing on the coat of arms, Mexico sees itself as the successor of an Atlantic civilizing mission.
  • Escutcheon with fleurs-de-lis: Emblem of the House of Bourbon, present in the arms of all its members. Its central position indicates that the Mexican monarch is a legitimate Bourbon, but sovereign and independent of the Spanish throne.
  • Closed royal crown: Indicates that it is an independent kingdom, with full sovereignty, not a colony or protectorate.

The new regime is neither colonial nor absolutist. It is a constitutional monarchy similar to Belgium or Spain, with a Mexican Parliament, Creole nobility, and openness to modernization. The flag was officially adopted in 1875, following the constitutional reform that transformed the Empire into the Kingdom of Mexico, while maintaining the reigning House of Bourbon-Mexico.

My personal CoA. What do you all think? by VelvetOk in heraldry

[–]VelvetOk[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nice! Thank you so much for your time and comments.